[Movie] Inception - Page 44
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eLiE
Canada1039 Posts
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NeXiLe
Canada262 Posts
On December 18 2010 00:43 YoungModerN wrote: yeah, the ending was real for sure. He only had memories of his kids playing and never seen them turning around, cuz its was memories in his house. When they leave the airport its no longer a dream cuz the first dream was in the plane, so its the real world. I don't think they're implying that it's still the asian guy's dream. I think they're saying that basically the entire movie was a dream. I'm skeptical on whether it was dream or not but I think that's the point. I also believe it looks a lot more likely that it is a dream just watching how long the top spins and also the fact that his kids are in the SAME spot, wearing the SAME clothes and they're the SAME age. Seems a lot easier to dream up their faces rather than them aging. Overall, I really enjoyed the movie. I believe I understood it as well as you're meant to but I know if I watched it again, there'd be little things I missed ^^ | ||
LB87
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bbsss
Netherlands163 Posts
Maybe it's a mindfuck because it doesn't make sense in the slightest. I don't enjoy science fiction that could be thought of by a 10-year old. The whole dream in a dream idea is cool. But the idea that the dreamer notices (by how idioticly: people in the dream noticing) someone else entering a dream and the person himself is protected in a dream is SUCH wasted potential, someone with intelligence could have made something out of that. But I guess that would make the movie too hard for people with an IQ of below 90, thats how I felt, you need to keep urself dumb to really enjoy this movie, so many things don't make sense and if that was all id be okay with it but the movie pretends all that bullshit makes perfect sense. | ||
Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:23 bbsss wrote: I'd rate this movie a 5.5 cos it had good actors and nice settings/special effects. The story is utter crap. I feel sorry for people that say this movie is so awesome and "a mindfuck" even. Really? A mindfuck? Maybe it's a mindfuck because it doesn't make sense in the slightest. I don't enjoy science fiction that could be thought of by a 10-year old. The whole dream in a dream idea is cool. But the idea that the dreamer notices (by how idioticly: people in the dream noticing) someone else entering a dream and the person himself is protected in a dream is SUCH wasted potential, someone with intelligence could have made something out of that. But I guess that would make the movie too hard for people with an IQ of below 90, thats how I felt, you need to keep urself dumb to really enjoy this movie, so many things don't make sense and if that was all id be okay with it but the movie pretends all that bullshit makes perfect sense. You said someone with intelligence could have made something out of the wasted potential. What exactly would you do different (so we can get some understanding of constructive criticism in here)? | ||
iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:23 bbsss wrote: I'd rate this movie a 5.5 cos it had good actors and nice settings/special effects. The story is utter crap. I feel sorry for people that say this movie is so awesome and "a mindfuck" even. Really? A mindfuck? Maybe it's a mindfuck because it doesn't make sense in the slightest. I don't enjoy science fiction that could be thought of by a 10-year old. The whole dream in a dream idea is cool. But the idea that the dreamer notices (by how idioticly: people in the dream noticing) someone else entering a dream and the person himself is protected in a dream is SUCH wasted potential, someone with intelligence could have made something out of that. But I guess that would make the movie too hard for people with an IQ of below 90, thats how I felt, you need to keep urself dumb to really enjoy this movie, so many things don't make sense and if that was all id be okay with it but the movie pretends all that bullshit makes perfect sense. So wait, you are saying the movie is for stupid people because it doesn't make any sense to you? Weak argument man. | ||
Hugoboss21
France346 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:23 bbsss wrote: I'd rate this movie a 5.5 cos it had good actors and nice settings/special effects. The story is utter crap. I feel sorry for people that say this movie is so awesome and "a mindfuck" even. Really? A mindfuck? Maybe it's a mindfuck because it doesn't make sense in the slightest. I don't enjoy science fiction that could be thought of by a 10-year old. The whole dream in a dream idea is cool. But the idea that the dreamer notices (by how idioticly: people in the dream noticing) someone else entering a dream and the person himself is protected in a dream is SUCH wasted potential, someone with intelligence could have made something out of that. But I guess that would make the movie too hard for people with an IQ of below 90, thats how I felt, you need to keep urself dumb to really enjoy this movie, so many things don't make sense and if that was all id be okay with it but the movie pretends all that bullshit makes perfect sense. i think you should go back and watch avatar, should be much easier since this movie doesn"t make any sense, made by a 10 year old and for ppl with a higher IQ then 90 :/ | ||
-vVvTitan-
United States473 Posts
On December 19 2010 16:07 lvatural wrote: Just saw the film, gotta say I thought it was pretty good. As for the people arguing about the ending being real or a dream, you're really missing the whole point. It doesn't matter if it's real or not, and the fact that he walked away from his totem before he could ascertain that he was in reality shows that he doesn't care either. It's the whole perception = truth idea, and he just decides that he's going to stick with the "ending" whether or not it's the "Truth." I'm guessing that's why the director made it so ambiguous, to show that what's reality is solely decided by the person who is perceiving it. Personally, at first I thought someone was invading his dreams using that girl architect. She kept delving into his dreams, asking about his past, and I thought all that train and kids stuff was put in there by her to throw him off....thought she was trying to dig up something about him and Moll or something. But...that theory pretty much died towards the end :/ Finally-- someone who truely understands the movie! Props to you sir. | ||
MG`Odien
United States60 Posts
On December 19 2010 16:07 lvatural wrote: Just saw the film, gotta say I thought it was pretty good. As for the people arguing about the ending being real or a dream, you're really missing the whole point. It doesn't matter if it's real or not, and the fact that he walked away from his totem before he could ascertain that he was in reality shows that he doesn't care either. It's the whole perception = truth idea, and he just decides that he's going to stick with the "ending" whether or not it's the "Truth." I'm guessing that's why the director made it so ambiguous, to show that what's reality is solely decided by the person who is perceiving it. Personally, at first I thought someone was invading his dreams using that girl architect. She kept delving into his dreams, asking about his past, and I thought all that train and kids stuff was put in there by her to throw him off....thought she was trying to dig up something about him and Moll or something. But...that theory pretty much died towards the end :/ Took the words right out of my mouth. I pretty much said the same thing to my girlfriend after the movie was over. | ||
anycolourfloyd
Australia524 Posts
what really pissed me off was the masses of people beating off over it and bowing down before it as the greatest literary creation ever. that it was a piece of genius and that they were part of that genius by watching it. pfft. i've had dreams within dreams before, multiple times. i saw nothing in there i haven't contemplated or read about before, and i wasn't hugely engaged by the execution either. somebody compared the reaction to avatar, i did to, though i was a lot more frustrated by avatar. from where i sit, inception (and much more so avatar) just indicate that the general public these days are blown away by fancy special effects and pretty colours. pretty colours in avatar don't save it from being total fucking literary garbage. books and the imagination can create far more interesting scenarios. by this token, i can't view inception as anything other than average. | ||
S.O.L.I.D.
United States792 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:23 bbsss wrote: I'd rate this movie a 5.5 cos it had good actors and nice settings/special effects. The story is utter crap. I feel sorry for people that say this movie is so awesome and "a mindfuck" even. Really? A mindfuck? Maybe it's a mindfuck because it doesn't make sense in the slightest. I don't enjoy science fiction that could be thought of by a 10-year old. The whole dream in a dream idea is cool. But the idea that the dreamer notices (by how idioticly: people in the dream noticing) someone else entering a dream and the person himself is protected in a dream is SUCH wasted potential, someone with intelligence could have made something out of that. But I guess that would make the movie too hard for people with an IQ of below 90, thats how I felt, you need to keep urself dumb to really enjoy this movie, so many things don't make sense and if that was all id be okay with it but the movie pretends all that bullshit makes perfect sense. So it could have been thought up by a ten year old... and you couldn't understand it? Yeah, that's all we need to know about you and your opinions. Anyway, I loved this movie when I saw it over the summer and hopefully I'll be getting it for Christmas. | ||
buickskylark
Canada664 Posts
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
On December 19 2010 22:55 buickskylark wrote: according to michael caine, who plays leo's father in the movie, the ending is real. i don't think it's necessary to be mysterious about it anymore, so i take his word for it. Read a couple of posts above you. It doesn't matter if the end is in the real world. What matters is that Leo has accepted the world he was in as real. | ||
Grend
1600 Posts
On December 19 2010 21:55 anycolourfloyd wrote: my first (and i suppose, most "pure") reaction to it was that it was a good movie, but nothing revolutionary. kept me interested, but i saw nothing that really made an impression on me. thematically, a bit similar to a less groundbreaking version of the matrix. 7/10. what really pissed me off was the masses of people beating off over it and bowing down before it as the greatest literary creation ever. that it was a piece of genius and that they were part of that genius by watching it. pfft. i've had dreams within dreams before, multiple times. i saw nothing in there i haven't contemplated or read about before, and i wasn't hugely engaged by the execution either. somebody compared the reaction to avatar, i did to, though i was a lot more frustrated by avatar. from where i sit, inception (and much more so avatar) just indicate that the general public these days are blown away by fancy special effects and pretty colours. pretty colours in avatar don't save it from being total fucking literary garbage. books and the imagination can create far more interesting scenarios. by this token, i can't view inception as anything other than average. Must be cool defying mainstream perception just to be different. It isnt a book, it`s a movie. A movie is not a 1:1 book on a screen. Go read your books and let us "general public people" get "blown away" by "fancy special effects". Geez get off your pedestal and relax. It`s not like you lose anything by enjoying the visual side of a movie, or the sound for that matter. It`s not all about the lines. | ||
nihoh
Australia978 Posts
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MG`Odien
United States60 Posts
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buickskylark
Canada664 Posts
On December 19 2010 23:02 Amestir wrote: Read a couple of posts above you. It doesn't matter if the end is in the real world. What matters is that Leo has accepted the world he was in as real. oh ok. it's okay to be insane and delusional as long as you accept it as reality. | ||
Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On December 20 2010 02:16 buickskylark wrote: oh ok. it's okay to be insane and delusional as long as you accept it as reality. ...Way to completely miss the point We're not saying it's okay, we're saying THATS WHAT HAPPENED. Leo stopped caring about what was reality or not, he just wanted to be with his kids and he did not care whether it was "real" or not. | ||
bbsss
Netherlands163 Posts
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bbsss
Netherlands163 Posts
On December 19 2010 18:26 Deadlyhazard wrote: You said someone with intelligence could have made something out of the wasted potential. What exactly would you do different (so we can get some understanding of constructive criticism in here)? For instance make the dream collapse when something unlogical happens and the person in the dream starts to notice, not when the "subconsious" (now made into these ridiculous different personae) notices. Also they should have made the dream levels not go slower in time, but be more vaguely in a logical sense (since that is what happens as you fall deeper asleep) and thus for instance making it more difficult for the person to detect a logical error in the dream or harder/easier for inception to occur. A great movie that actually makes sense and is ten times over this movie is a movie called eXistenZ. If you can find it, watch it! That movie has sorta the same theme but really does give you a mindfuck compared to this pseudo science fiction because the science part actually makes sense. | ||
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