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FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-20 02:32:55
December 20 2010 02:03 GMT
#881
I don't remember correctly but when he was showing the spinning top to the girl, it fell? earlier in the movie. Also, everytime he threw down the top... to find out if he was in reality or not....he was always interrupted..? and we saw with his wife that his own subconscious was attacking him.... so as if everyone around him was his own projection... and were Attacking him to keep him from realizing it was not reality. So the story was... A man against his own mind.... keeping him trapped in the end.- Possible conclusion?
anycolourfloyd
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia524 Posts
December 20 2010 02:32 GMT
#882
On December 19 2010 23:18 Grend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 21:55 anycolourfloyd wrote:
my first (and i suppose, most "pure") reaction to it was that it was a good movie, but nothing revolutionary. kept me interested, but i saw nothing that really made an impression on me. thematically, a bit similar to a less groundbreaking version of the matrix. 7/10.

what really pissed me off was the masses of people beating off over it and bowing down before it as the greatest literary creation ever. that it was a piece of genius and that they were part of that genius by watching it. pfft. i've had dreams within dreams before, multiple times. i saw nothing in there i haven't contemplated or read about before, and i wasn't hugely engaged by the execution either.

somebody compared the reaction to avatar, i did to, though i was a lot more frustrated by avatar. from where i sit, inception (and much more so avatar) just indicate that the general public these days are blown away by fancy special effects and pretty colours.

pretty colours in avatar don't save it from being total fucking literary garbage. books and the imagination can create far more interesting scenarios. by this token, i can't view inception as anything other than average.


Must be cool defying mainstream perception just to be different. It isnt a book, it`s a movie. A movie is not a 1:1 book on a screen. Go read your books and let us "general public people" get "blown away" by "fancy special effects". Geez get off your pedestal and relax. It`s not like you lose anything by enjoying the visual side of a movie, or the sound for that matter. It`s not all about the lines.



no, you totally missed my point. special effects should be used to enhance the total experience of the movie, and supplement the story line (see the matrix) NOT a total substitute for a story line (see avatar). inception is somewhere inbetween.

i'm not anti-movie, just anti-idiot.
oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
December 20 2010 03:08 GMT
#883
On December 20 2010 11:03 FindingPride wrote:
I don't remember correctly but when he was showing the spinning top to the girl, it fell? earlier in the movie. Also, everytime he threw down the top... to find out if he was in reality or not....he was always interrupted..? and we saw with his wife that his own subconscious was attacking him.... so as if everyone around him was his own projection... and were Attacking him to keep him from realizing it was not reality. So the story was... A man against his own mind.... keeping him trapped in the end.- Possible conclusion?



Hmm I wish I could remember exactly what happened everytime with the top I can't. I know I looked somethings up on the internet after I read this thread a few weeks ago.

The director says what he wants you take away is that Cobb doesn't care about if its reality or not anymore.


A break down of the movie. Also the director approved of this analysis.
Also michael cain said that there was a point he was suppose to walk back in the shot at the end but that was taken out. He did also say that the kids clothes are similar but are not exactly the same.

http://screenrant.com/inception-spoilers-discussion-kofi-68330/
AtomicTon
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States103 Posts
December 20 2010 05:07 GMT
#884
This movie was a piece of art. Fucking brilliant. If anyone even hints at this vs avatar again I swear. WHAT IS WRONG WITH KIDS THESE DAYS!?

Shit! THis was presented in a nice box with a bow. THe end scene....DOESNT MATTER! I don't care if it falls or not, that has nothing to do wth any of it. It's not about whether he was or wasnt. Have any of you been in a dream that was visceral? REAL. you were THERE. You felt it. YOu were really there. Same thing. Doesn't really matter, it did happen. Everyone has at least one dream they remember, everyone can relate to this movie. I HATE that chick form juno, but she was alright. I like Di,so what. Acting was great, suspense built and the plot thickened, alliances were questioned, reality was questioned. Come on, quit thinking you're cool to not like this fucking awesome movie, and just concede to the fact that this was movie of the year. One of my favorites. Not only that, I'm actually HAPPY to have paid the 9 dollars to see it. That hasn't happened...Idk. EVER. To each their own, but that's mine.
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
December 20 2010 05:20 GMT
#885
The movie was great, a solid 8/10 from me but not spectacular. The acting was good for the most part, DiCaprio and Paige was really outstanding but some of the lines are really cheesy lol. The whole premise had TONS of potential for further development but I guess they ran out of time.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 20 2010 06:29 GMT
#886
On December 20 2010 05:06 bbsss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 18:26 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On December 19 2010 18:23 bbsss wrote:
I'd rate this movie a 5.5 cos it had good actors and nice settings/special effects. The story is utter crap. I feel sorry for people that say this movie is so awesome and "a mindfuck" even. Really? A mindfuck?
Maybe it's a mindfuck because it doesn't make sense in the slightest. I don't enjoy science fiction that could be thought of by a 10-year old. The whole dream in a dream idea is cool. But the idea that the dreamer notices (by how idioticly: people in the dream noticing) someone else entering a dream and the person himself is protected in a dream is SUCH wasted potential, someone with intelligence could have made something out of that. But I guess that would make the movie too hard for people with an IQ of below 90, thats how I felt, you need to keep urself dumb to really enjoy this movie, so many things don't make sense and if that was all id be okay with it but the movie pretends all that bullshit makes perfect sense.


You said someone with intelligence could have made something out of the wasted potential. What exactly would you do different (so we can get some understanding of constructive criticism in here)?

For instance make the dream collapse when something unlogical happens and the person in the dream starts to notice, not when the "subconsious" (now made into these ridiculous different personae) notices.

Also they should have made the dream levels not go slower in time, but be more vaguely in a logical sense (since that is what happens as you fall deeper asleep) and thus for instance making it more difficult for the person to detect a logical error in the dream or harder/easier for inception to occur.

A great movie that actually makes sense and is ten times over this movie is a movie called eXistenZ. If you can find it, watch it! That movie has sorta the same theme but really does give you a mindfuck compared to this pseudo science fiction because the science part actually makes sense.


So wait, you are saying that this work of fiction doesn't make sense because it makes leaps that aren't 100% proven in a subject that basically has no ground scientifically anyway?

I bet you would hate it if the dreams got more vague in each level too. You don't hate the movie because of what it is, you hate it because other people like it.
pzea469
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1520 Posts
December 20 2010 06:34 GMT
#887
all the people saying that the final scene doesn't matter, skip this. For those who think it does matter to them, it keeps spinning. He was dreaming.
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Nydus Wurm
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States42 Posts
December 20 2010 07:45 GMT
#888
On December 20 2010 14:07 AtomicTon wrote:
This movie was a piece of art. Fucking brilliant. If anyone even hints at this vs avatar again I swear. WHAT IS WRONG WITH KIDS THESE DAYS!?

Shit! THis was presented in a nice box with a bow. THe end scene....DOESNT MATTER! I don't care if it falls or not, that has nothing to do wth any of it. It's not about whether he was or wasnt. Have any of you been in a dream that was visceral? REAL. you were THERE. You felt it. YOu were really there. Same thing. Doesn't really matter, it did happen. Everyone has at least one dream they remember, everyone can relate to this movie. I HATE that chick form juno, but she was alright. I like Di,so what. Acting was great, suspense built and the plot thickened, alliances were questioned, reality was questioned. Come on, quit thinking you're cool to not like this fucking awesome movie, and just concede to the fact that this was movie of the year. One of my favorites. Not only that, I'm actually HAPPY to have paid the 9 dollars to see it. That hasn't happened...Idk. EVER. To each their own, but that's mine.

Wow, that's a lot of shit to type and not say anything. Cool caps, by the way.
Jimmycliff
Profile Joined December 2010
United States86 Posts
December 20 2010 07:48 GMT
#889
My main critique of the movie is that they didn't show enough van falling in slow motion. If they would have had 30 or so more minutes of the van falling in slow motion I probably would have liked the movie more.
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
December 20 2010 08:20 GMT
#890
I really enjoyed this movie, thought it was good all around, no hate here, was it easy to follow, um, it was but that was probably because i knew there were going to multiple dreams etc, but very thoughtful. I've only seen it once, but I would see it again, one time. But it ain't no starwars. keke.
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GGitsJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-20 09:18:50
December 20 2010 09:18 GMT
#891
I'm certain that alot of people (including me) got home and googled inception ending to see what other people think and possible hypothesis regarding the ending
"A reason becomes an excuse if you don't do anything about it."
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
December 20 2010 12:44 GMT
#892
On December 20 2010 14:07 AtomicTon wrote:remember, everyone can relate to this movie. I HATE that chick form juno, but she was alright.

Wut she's awesome :D

Agree with you though, this movie is amazing.
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Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
December 20 2010 13:45 GMT
#893
so many haters here!

the 10.0 rating movie for these guys is probably a french cult no one cares movie. Just to be different. Ok..the movie have plots but who cares? was enjoyable.

just like avatar. i know is pocahontas 3D...but just feeling the scenario was a good way to enjoy it.

anyway...haters gonna hate.

about the ending...yeah. its true that cobb perception was "i will take this as real...i dont care"
my perception is that it was a dream...whatever.

the "plot holes" can make both options valid. so lets just enjoy
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 13:25:48
December 30 2010 13:25 GMT
#894
Yeah for being 6 months behind on all movies! Watched this last night...

It was the firs Blu-ray movie I watched on my HD TV, and I think I made a good choice as I could practically taste the movie it was so clear.

About the ending, how else would they have ended it? I saw that coming from a hundred years away, but it was still good.

The only thing my wife and I agreed that we didn't like was the whole premise for the inception in the first place. Industrial sabotage? Really? That seems like a pretty weak prop to put the entire movie on. Other that that, it was very enjoyable and looked amazing.
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Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 13:39:55
December 30 2010 13:39 GMT
#895
Actually they said in the movie the military only used it for training soldiers for combat. So his group decided to become more creative with it

Actually industrial espionage was a better theme then some nationalistic bullshit many other US movies are about.
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 17:55:09
December 30 2010 17:34 GMT
#896
Watched it today for the first time (actually finished it like 5 minutes ago...) and think that it was a good movie (even though some parts could be better). I had no idea what the movie is gonna be about except the part where someone enters someone else's dream so there was no room for dissapointment (actually when I decide to go see a movie in a theatre I almost never know anything about it).

Anyway from what I understood (last scene) the entire movie was a dream and (possibly) his wife is still waiting for him 'up there'.

EDIT: hmm it seems that I might be wrong about the entire movie being a dream - there's a scene at the beginning where the spinning thing actually falls. OR it was his subconscious making it fall so he'd think it's reality. I'm still not entirely sure lol.
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Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
December 30 2010 17:39 GMT
#897
I enjoyed this movie a lot! Really worth watching.
Try another route paperboy.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
December 30 2010 18:07 GMT
#898
This movie needed to lay off on the trombones.

[cut back to van falling off bridge]

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REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
December 30 2010 18:30 GMT
#899
On December 31 2010 03:07 bonifaceviii wrote:
This movie needed to lay off on the trombones.

[cut back to van falling off bridge]

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I liked most parts of the film. It is an original idea that worked really well with the special effects. However I didn't like the whole stuff about being stuck in the nimbus or however that dream was called. Would be better if the biggest danger was that the target wakes up and is suspicious. This whole I'm getting stuck in a dream and come out as a zombie thing was kinda over the top. still the movie gets a 9/10 from me cause I like all the other parts of it.
undyinglight
Profile Joined December 2008
United States611 Posts
December 31 2010 14:01 GMT
#900
On July 17 2010 19:25 Fraidnot wrote:
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Sure it had it's plot holes, (If they're weightless in one dream because they're in free fall in another dream, why aren't they then weightless in their current dream?) but I just didn't care best movie ever


As to clarify it was on a different level so the zero gravity wouldn't affect them. This movie was brilliant and had no plotholes.
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