• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:28
CET 22:28
KST 06:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion6Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Video Footage from 2005: The Birth of G2 in Spain BW General Discussion BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1971 users

[Movie] Inception - Page 34

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 51 Next
EPO
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada341 Posts
August 15 2010 02:11 GMT
#661
Found this movie mildly entertaining... worth seeing, but not buying.
toadstool
Profile Joined May 2006
Australia421 Posts
August 15 2010 02:11 GMT
#662
The thing that made me angry was that you generalise EVERYONE who likes the movie was 'easily fooled', as if we got conned just because we like the movie.

I defintely think I have a good taste in films, to say that we're 'easily fooled' into liking a movie just because they think that it's genuinely good?

It's like a Counter Strike player going into a Starcraft forum and saying "Man you guys are easily fooled by Starcraft 2's awesome graphics, it's all just 1a2a3a protoss LOL, btw I like Atrox and DDR, not any of this sht Blizzard puts out for the masses WOW LOL."

See what I'm getting at here?
NEWB?!
PersonA
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden4 Posts
August 15 2010 02:32 GMT
#663
I think what shauni is getting at is that for him, the themes and such used in this movie is not new or interesting at all, and when you can see through them what's left is mostly a decent action movie.

If you want to do a analogy to gaming, something like playing warcraft 2 for the first time after playing a lot of brood war and hearing people praise the intense multiplayer, cool units and awesome controls in warcraft seems closer too me. I mean, warcraft II will still be a good game, but since you are used to "more" your mind will not really be blown.
Euphemism
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada57 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 03:11:12
August 15 2010 02:52 GMT
#664
On August 15 2010 10:55 kohkomo wrote:
Euphemism Euphemism Euphemism Euphemism!

I was reading your post, maybe you can expand for me?

You said it is not the viewers job to decide whether (Or determine) he is dreaming or not.

But you also end your sentence with "We are." (We are watching to see if it falls or not...)

Doesn't that imply that we are 'deciding' 'watching' to see if it falls or not? So it is the viewers choice to make a decision

I'm lost


Mm. I was on a post movie high while writing that and reading it back right now it doesn't completely make sense to me either. I think the point I was trying to make was this.

Regardless of whether you decide that Cobb is dreaming or not, doesn't really 'matter'. The resolution of the movie was mostly about Cobb getting over his guilt and letting his inner (projection) Mal die. There is the question of who was right about this not being the real world, but that was only mostly thrown in at the last moment, and so isn't important. Thus, in the end, Cobb goes away, leaving it spinning, leaving it behind with us who can try to decide what reality is, but it doesn't matter to him.

Arguing whether he's still dreaming or not doesn't matter. It's like... you can argue whether there was an actual King Arthur a thousand years back or so. But the impact of 'what is true' is minimal.

Personally, I like the Ariadne-as-therapist theory, mutated into the following form: Mal was right, she's outside in the real world, Cobb only reached some form of level 1 dreaming and is in a coma in the real world, dream worlds are actually can be utterly illogical and Cobb's own logical mind restricts his understanding of the dream world and forces it to conform to the nature seen in the movie, but he's not perfect hence the little holes such as lack of gravity on the 3rd level despite kicks working. And as he's managed to resolve his own little issues of guilt, he's now able to wake up from the coma after the ending you see.

It's a cute theory that I like, but again, whether that's actually correct or not is irrelevant.

P.S. Avatar was a great looking movie, but suffered from having a poor plot and no depth. In comparison, Inception is in no way lacking - good action, good characters, good plot, good reveals.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 15 2010 03:06 GMT
#665
Inception should be Winception since its full of win! As long as it got my interests, i think it is a great movie
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
August 15 2010 03:08 GMT
#666
alot of people actually liked it? I thought it was bland and forgettable. Seriously went on way too long, tried way too hard to be deep.
mainerd
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States347 Posts
August 15 2010 03:22 GMT
#667
On August 15 2010 11:09 PersonA wrote:
I'm with shauni on this one, Inception was like 2,5/5 or something, I mean come on, there's a Donald Duck comic with a similar plot (the beagle boys invade Scrooge's dreams to steal the combination to his safe) that's 17 years old

if you want you can look back a lot further than 20th century examples of similar ideas; the greeks had a god named morpheus who often visited kings and heroes in their dreams, by taking human forms (forger?) and giving them guidance/information (inception?). a more recent example that comes to mind is an episode of the prisoner where patrick mcgoohan is sedated and and his dreams are manipulated so that people who he formerly trusted appear to him in familiar settings to try to get him to reveal a secret. it's a very old idea, one which "paprika" recycled, as well as the comic you posted. the presentation is where people differ, shauni prefers a tripped out animation, others like nolan's action-movie presentation. honestly neither one is presenting ideas that are very new.
"Let me tell you, in eSTRO we had some circle jerks, straight up. It wasn't pretty." -NonY
toadstool
Profile Joined May 2006
Australia421 Posts
August 15 2010 03:30 GMT
#668
On August 15 2010 11:32 PersonA wrote:
I think what shauni is getting at is that for him, the themes and such used in this movie is not new or interesting at all, and when you can see through them what's left is mostly a decent action movie.

If you want to do a analogy to gaming, something like playing warcraft 2 for the first time after playing a lot of brood war and hearing people praise the intense multiplayer, cool units and awesome controls in warcraft seems closer too me. I mean, warcraft II will still be a good game, but since you are used to "more" your mind will not really be blown.


exactly, and thats his opinion. but he puts in a very condescending and obnoxious way in which he looks down on others because they havnt been watching the movies hes been watching.

movies are subjective, just because some people like a movie you dont like doesnt mean that 'theyre fooled by hollywood, i feel sorry for them'.

granted, some people over hype the movie, but whats the point of going into the thread and bagging out the movie continuiusly and then insulting people who like the movie over and over?
NEWB?!
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
August 15 2010 03:31 GMT
#669
I read the first ten pages or so of the thread and tried searching it but I think I'll ask anyways...
Warning SPOILER for the few who haven't watched the movie but are reading this thread.

In the Inception storyline/universe:

Do the dreamers get tired in the dream world?
Do they get hungry and have to eat in their dreams?
If they have to eat, do they need to use the facilities?
Can they sleep in their dream?
If not, so they stay awake for days/weeks/months/years on end?
If the dream world is populated by projections of humans, are there animals as well? I haven't seen any pets in the movie, though I may have missed it.

In the scene where they're in the garage and the guy is shooting the gunmen on the adjacent rooftop... and the other guy goes "don't be afraid to dream a little bigger" and uses a grenade launcher...
... If they're capable of having bigger/better equipment, how come they don't? At first I thought perhaps it'd alert the projections because the dreamer would realize their equipment didn't fit in...
... but (#1) the projections were already alert of them (though one could argue the equipment was pre-dreamed... but couldn't they pre-dream better equipment in storage in the endgame that they do fight projections?) (#2) If they are kidnapping such a high profile target, in real life, they'd have MUCH better equipment (like a white unmarked van? come on, get a black bullet proof SUV that the mafia would use)

Oh shit though, this is a really really good theory:
On July 20 2010 08:32 cava wrote:
Here is a theory that throws the conventional 5 level thinking as shown above me out the window.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/board/nest/167024711?p=1

"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 05:17:59
August 15 2010 05:15 GMT
#670
Spoilers:

I thought it was boring the first 30 minutes but it eventually piqued my interest. I counted many eye roll moments but I still liked it in the end.

I think at the end he's dreaming because the scene just cut from one to another so jarringly it seemed almost dreamlike. AND the fact that his kids don't seem to have aged one bit from the way he remembered them in his dreams. Also, where was the grandmother? Not only that but the way in which he woke up in the first place. Every one else was seen waking up from each layer of the dreams seperately except for him. He jumped immediately to the plane scene. Plus he didn't get jolted out of his dream, like everybody else did. How did he wake him and Saito up? By killing each other? And didn't they mention that killing someone that deep into a dream would throw them in a limbo forever?

I don't know if it was sloppy writing or if it was intended but certain things definitely hinted that Leonardo DiCaprio was already in a dream within a dream before their mission had even started. Unknown agents chasing him in a fantastic sequence in that city, with Saito just coming in at the nick of time? The fact that he never actually did get to see if he had awoken from the dream induced by the serum he was testing (Because Saito had interrupted him yet again).
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Kutar_FOX
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)67 Posts
August 15 2010 07:44 GMT
#671
I am looking forward to watch this movie.

This movie got so good scores on websites.
스타크래프트도 좀 적당히 하자.
SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 07:46:52
August 15 2010 07:46 GMT
#672
itt im a unique snowflake so I'll hate whatever people like.

Edit: Even if you didnt like the movie you have to admit it was decent :/
Stop hatin' just cause you can.
Do it beautifully
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 10:04:38
August 15 2010 10:03 GMT
#673
On August 15 2010 11:11 toadstool wrote:
The thing that made me angry was that you generalise EVERYONE who likes the movie was 'easily fooled', as if we got conned just because we like the movie.

I defintely think I have a good taste in films, to say that we're 'easily fooled' into liking a movie just because they think that it's genuinely good?

It's like a Counter Strike player going into a Starcraft forum and saying "Man you guys are easily fooled by Starcraft 2's awesome graphics, it's all just 1a2a3a protoss LOL, btw I like Atrox and DDR, not any of this sht Blizzard puts out for the masses WOW LOL."

See what I'm getting at here?


The reason why they are easily fooled is because they believe it's genuinely good. But it's impossible for me to convince you otherwise, it's something you have to experience yourself while exploring the medium of cinema.
I do not think movies are just entertainment, and I don't think anyone with a taste in movies can say he watches them for entertainment solely. While you were admiring the world turning and the numerous gunfights and explosions I was busy looking for a single hint of substance in the movie. I couldn't find much, and it makes it look like Nolan took the easy directing route and gave the audience what they wanted. There is no passion, there is no enthusiasm, no vision or goal. There's just this bland directing that doesn't dare thread outside the normative areas.

And to clarify, I didn't like Paprika in particular either, I just think it's interesting to compare how the big anime studios of Japan execute the same concept to how Hollywood does it.

'I like artsy movies too, 500 days of summer is great!!1 Fuck yeah Zooey!'
Should I even take you seriously?
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
August 16 2010 06:09 GMT
#674
Hey Biggie, what did you think about Inception?

[image loading]

"It was all a dream..."
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
August 16 2010 16:47 GMT
#675
On August 15 2010 19:03 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2010 11:11 toadstool wrote:
The thing that made me angry was that you generalise EVERYONE who likes the movie was 'easily fooled', as if we got conned just because we like the movie.

I defintely think I have a good taste in films, to say that we're 'easily fooled' into liking a movie just because they think that it's genuinely good?

It's like a Counter Strike player going into a Starcraft forum and saying "Man you guys are easily fooled by Starcraft 2's awesome graphics, it's all just 1a2a3a protoss LOL, btw I like Atrox and DDR, not any of this sht Blizzard puts out for the masses WOW LOL."

See what I'm getting at here?


The reason why they are easily fooled is because they believe it's genuinely good. But it's impossible for me to convince you otherwise, it's something you have to experience yourself while exploring the medium of cinema.
I do not think movies are just entertainment, and I don't think anyone with a taste in movies can say he watches them for entertainment solely. While you were admiring the world turning and the numerous gunfights and explosions I was busy looking for a single hint of substance in the movie. I couldn't find much, and it makes it look like Nolan took the easy directing route and gave the audience what they wanted. There is no passion, there is no enthusiasm, no vision or goal. There's just this bland directing that doesn't dare thread outside the normative areas.

And to clarify, I didn't like Paprika in particular either, I just think it's interesting to compare how the big anime studios of Japan execute the same concept to how Hollywood does it.

'I like artsy movies too, 500 days of summer is great!!1 Fuck yeah Zooey!'
Should I even take you seriously?

Seriously? A hollywood movie is made to be entertaining and nothing more. No matter what methods they use to get there that is what it is meant to be. A movie doesn't have to have a goal or some secret moral lesson in it in order to be good. All it has to do is be entertaining for its viewers.

BTW, "I couldn't find much, and it makes it look like Nolan took the easy directing route and gave the audience what they wanted." is like the dumbest thing I've heard from an 'elitest' in a long time.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 17:20:16
August 16 2010 16:52 GMT
#676
Lol at this thread turning into the high-nosed, movie "critic" expounding his "I wasn't impressed therefore anyone who liked it = sheep" argument.
With no power comes no responsibility?
XDawn
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Canada4040 Posts
August 16 2010 17:45 GMT
#677
I think you guys are taking this to a level where it doesn't have to be taken.
In the end, it is a 'movie'.It's entertainment, not real life.
Of course all the common sense stuff is going to be as real as it can get but when it branches off into things that the majority of people don't really know about, of course there are going to be flaws in it. Why? Because it's a movie, it's meant for people to reflect upon after watching it, and also have a good experience coming out of watching it.
Use it or lose it
All Quiet
Profile Joined July 2010
United States62 Posts
August 16 2010 17:51 GMT
#678
It was a good movie, and it seems that everything that Leonardo Dicaprio touches nowadays becoems a hit. I like the movie, and it pays clear homage to the "Am I dreaming?" trope laid out by Total Recall, even having a box in one scene have the words Total Recall printed on it.

It alos takes Total Recall's final sequence, where the viewer has to decide if the hero is dreaming or not.

However, the argument can be made that we are all dreaming, by the movie's definition. I cannot remember how I got here. I can remember back to age four, but no further. IS that a message that they are tryingto send us?
The meek shall inherit the earth. The rest of us are going to the stars.
RA
Profile Joined October 2008
Latvia791 Posts
August 16 2010 17:53 GMT
#679
Best movie I've seen in 10 years. It's like experiencing Matrix again.
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
August 16 2010 18:19 GMT
#680
Finally got around to seeing this.

One question:

How did Leo get out of Limbo? (when him and his wife got stuck there for delving too deep)
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 51 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IPSL
20:00
Grand Finals
Dewalt vs Sziky
Airneanach93
Liquipedia
BSL 21
20:00
Non-Korean Championship - D4
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
ZZZero.O300
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 563
IndyStarCraft 230
JuggernautJason103
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 1827
Shuttle 526
ZZZero.O 300
Mini 162
Dota 2
Gorgc2222
Pyrionflax226
Other Games
summit1g6839
FrodaN5725
Liquid`RaSZi3168
Grubby3163
fl0m1863
Fnx 1394
B2W.Neo1032
crisheroes442
Liquid`Hasu320
XaKoH 276
ToD221
ArmadaUGS161
KnowMe119
Railgan1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2142
EGCTV1205
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 41
• Reevou 9
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2454
• TFBlade1160
Other Games
• imaqtpie2828
• Scarra746
• Shiphtur254
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
11h 32m
Wardi Open
14h 32m
Monday Night Weeklies
19h 32m
OSC
1d 13h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Big Brain Bouts
4 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
5 days
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Proleague 2026-01-18
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.