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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44206 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 18:51:35
January 23 2020 18:50 GMT
#101
On January 24 2020 03:45 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2020 03:39 Sloke wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:37 Faruko wrote:
yah, ramzesss is not going to last that much on EG if he keeps performing like this

I mean you probably need to give him more time but as somewhat of a fan of his carry plays he looks wasted and/or not up to par on offlane :/

Yeah, he looks pretty lost (i mean, barely any bad, but not top top tier material) in the offlane position.

His carry skills are much higher than his offlane.

But tbh, i'm also not sure about rtz lately, again this is top top level talking here.

Idk man Ceb said that Ramzes is doing pretty well as an offlaner and transitioned really well. (he said this on game 1 while casting with gorgc). I'd take the words of a pretty good offlane player

It just seems like EG didnt understand when they were strongest during the games
this is a quote
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 18:54:15
January 23 2020 18:53 GMT
#102
On January 24 2020 03:50 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2020 03:45 Faruko wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:39 Sloke wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:37 Faruko wrote:
yah, ramzesss is not going to last that much on EG if he keeps performing like this

I mean you probably need to give him more time but as somewhat of a fan of his carry plays he looks wasted and/or not up to par on offlane :/

Yeah, he looks pretty lost (i mean, barely any bad, but not top top tier material) in the offlane position.

His carry skills are much higher than his offlane.

But tbh, i'm also not sure about rtz lately, again this is top top level talking here.

Idk man Ceb said that Ramzes is doing pretty well as an offlaner and transitioned really well. (he said this on game 1 while casting with gorgc). I'd take the words of a pretty good offlane player

It just seems like EG didnt understand when they were strongest during the games

i mean, ceb is the pro here so i would take his word over mine lol

but i would not call this performance this series as something to write home about
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44206 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 18:57:14
January 23 2020 18:55 GMT
#103
On January 24 2020 03:53 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2020 03:50 goody153 wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:45 Faruko wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:39 Sloke wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:37 Faruko wrote:
yah, ramzesss is not going to last that much on EG if he keeps performing like this

I mean you probably need to give him more time but as somewhat of a fan of his carry plays he looks wasted and/or not up to par on offlane :/

Yeah, he looks pretty lost (i mean, barely any bad, but not top top tier material) in the offlane position.

His carry skills are much higher than his offlane.

But tbh, i'm also not sure about rtz lately, again this is top top level talking here.

Idk man Ceb said that Ramzes is doing pretty well as an offlaner and transitioned really well. (he said this on game 1 while casting with gorgc). I'd take the words of a pretty good offlane player

It just seems like EG didnt understand when they were strongest during the games

i mean, ceb is the pro here so i would take his word over mine lol

but i would not call this performance this series as something to write home about

I am alot less credible than Ceb but i liked Ramzes offlane than s4 offlane.

Alot more aggressive and alot more playmaking than whatever s4 was doing when behind and tilting. Ramzes carry is rad tho i think he was a better carry than rtz alot of times while on VP

Tho that was a different team so it might not translate as well on EG.
this is a quote
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
January 23 2020 18:56 GMT
#104
On January 24 2020 03:38 Dracolich70 wrote:
Gotta wonder how Bulba is still part of EG.

He fulfilled the scapegoat role.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
January 23 2020 18:57 GMT
#105
On January 24 2020 03:55 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2020 03:53 Faruko wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:50 goody153 wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:45 Faruko wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:39 Sloke wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:37 Faruko wrote:
yah, ramzesss is not going to last that much on EG if he keeps performing like this

I mean you probably need to give him more time but as somewhat of a fan of his carry plays he looks wasted and/or not up to par on offlane :/

Yeah, he looks pretty lost (i mean, barely any bad, but not top top tier material) in the offlane position.

His carry skills are much higher than his offlane.

But tbh, i'm also not sure about rtz lately, again this is top top level talking here.

Idk man Ceb said that Ramzes is doing pretty well as an offlaner and transitioned really well. (he said this on game 1 while casting with gorgc). I'd take the words of a pretty good offlane player

It just seems like EG didnt understand when they were strongest during the games

i mean, ceb is the pro here so i would take his word over mine lol

but i would not call this performance this series as something to write home about

I am alot less credible than Ceb but i liked Ramzes offlane than s4 offlane.

Alot more aggressive and alot more playmaking than whatever s4 was doing when behind and tilting. Ramzes carry is rad tho

that's for sure, i'd take ramzesss over s4 lol

not sure who is avalaible anyway (offlane) so thats also another thing to consider
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44206 Posts
January 23 2020 18:58 GMT
#106
On January 24 2020 03:56 Elurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2020 03:38 Dracolich70 wrote:
Gotta wonder how Bulba is still part of EG.

He fulfilled the scapegoat role.

That for sure lol

Alot of pro players think bulba is a greater thinker of the game which is probably why alot of teams had him in the past. Just not a great player. Which means he is just perfect on the coach position
this is a quote
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 23 2020 18:58 GMT
#107
On January 24 2020 03:57 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2020 03:55 goody153 wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:53 Faruko wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:50 goody153 wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:45 Faruko wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:39 Sloke wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:37 Faruko wrote:
yah, ramzesss is not going to last that much on EG if he keeps performing like this

I mean you probably need to give him more time but as somewhat of a fan of his carry plays he looks wasted and/or not up to par on offlane :/

Yeah, he looks pretty lost (i mean, barely any bad, but not top top tier material) in the offlane position.

His carry skills are much higher than his offlane.

But tbh, i'm also not sure about rtz lately, again this is top top level talking here.

Idk man Ceb said that Ramzes is doing pretty well as an offlaner and transitioned really well. (he said this on game 1 while casting with gorgc). I'd take the words of a pretty good offlane player

It just seems like EG didnt understand when they were strongest during the games

i mean, ceb is the pro here so i would take his word over mine lol

but i would not call this performance this series as something to write home about

I am alot less credible than Ceb but i liked Ramzes offlane than s4 offlane.

Alot more aggressive and alot more playmaking than whatever s4 was doing when behind and tilting. Ramzes carry is rad tho

that's for sure, i'd take ramzesss over s4 lol

not sure who is avalaible anyway (offlane) so thats also another thing to consider

One of the available offlaners is in the studio even!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
January 23 2020 18:59 GMT
#108
maybe EG need to get someone like lelis and move ramzes back to carry, the only reasonable move I can see currently
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
January 23 2020 19:00 GMT
#109
that means kicking rtz or abed

hard choice
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
January 23 2020 19:03 GMT
#110
On January 24 2020 03:58 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2020 03:56 Elurie wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:38 Dracolich70 wrote:
Gotta wonder how Bulba is still part of EG.

He fulfilled the scapegoat role.

That for sure lol

Alot of pro players think bulba is a greater thinker of the game which is probably why alot of teams had him in the past. Just not a great player. Which means he is just perfect on the coach position
You can get away being less intelligent as a player, but not as a coach. They would do better without him.
LiangHao
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44206 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 19:06:25
January 23 2020 19:03 GMT
#111
Lets be real arteezy is not getting kicked unless he left himself. All teams he has been around has prefered him to be there.

And most topteams nowadays are approaching the team making decision in a way that they instead work with the team for a long time and try to fix the issues than kick&replace(which was super prominent on the earlier half of dota proscene)

Even teams like liquid, beastcoast and navi who arent doing as well are approaching the same thing
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44206 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 19:07:21
January 23 2020 19:05 GMT
#112
On January 24 2020 04:03 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2020 03:58 goody153 wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:56 Elurie wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:38 Dracolich70 wrote:
Gotta wonder how Bulba is still part of EG.

He fulfilled the scapegoat role.

That for sure lol

Alot of pro players think bulba is a greater thinker of the game which is probably why alot of teams had him in the past. Just not a great player. Which means he is just perfect on the coach position
You can get away being less intelligent as a player, but not as a coach. They would do better without him.

Clearly EG thinks differently than what you suggest.

Tbh EG is doing ok considering how much of the roster changes and they now have a supernew offlaner.

VG is just better today
this is a quote
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 23 2020 19:07 GMT
#113
Why is Atos listed as one of the most popular items on Treant? This reminds me of when a mid Silencer on my team built Orchid 1st item.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44206 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 19:13:51
January 23 2020 19:12 GMT
#114
I am soooo sick of seeing Treant. And lets see if Ceb prediction is right about alliance beating secret
this is a quote
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
January 23 2020 19:12 GMT
#115
EG just seems very consistent aka predictable in their overall style (even after multiple roster changes), and as outsider we honestly don't know shit about the dynamic within the team.

on the topic of current series I can see why Ceb was favoring [A], secret still hasn't really figured out the most optimal way to play with matu
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44206 Posts
January 23 2020 19:13 GMT
#116
On January 24 2020 04:07 Ej_ wrote:
Why is Atos listed as one of the most popular items on Treant? This reminds me of when a mid Silencer on my team built Orchid 1st item.

Extra root ? I thought people built meme hammer the most on that hero
this is a quote
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 19:25:25
January 23 2020 19:17 GMT
#117
Alliance 0 stuns. GG
On January 24 2020 04:13 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2020 04:07 Ej_ wrote:
Why is Atos listed as one of the most popular items on Treant? This reminds me of when a mid Silencer on my team built Orchid 1st item.

Extra root ? I thought people built meme hammer the most on that hero

Hammer/blink is normal. Solar Crest was also listed and it's usually built as the 3rd item (that or Vlads). I've never seen Atos and honestly don't know why it would be 4th most popular pick on the hero.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44206 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 19:24:09
January 23 2020 19:23 GMT
#118
On January 24 2020 04:17 Ej_ wrote:
Alliance 0 stuns. GG
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2020 04:13 goody153 wrote:
On January 24 2020 04:07 Ej_ wrote:
Why is Atos listed as one of the most popular items on Treant? This reminds me of when a mid Silencer on my team built Orchid 1st item.

Extra root ? I thought people built meme hammer the most on that hero

Hammer/blink is normal. Solar Crest was also listed and it's usually built as the 3rd item (that on Vlads). I've never seen Atos and honestly don't know why it would be 4th most popular pick on the hero.

Morph, Treant and CM cancels tps if that is your worry.

I like secret draft more tho. I think Morph takes too long to join the fights and viper needs a good laning stage to be useful

Feels like secret is gonna run them over midgame if they do well enough laning stage.

@tree: yeah idk about the atos either
this is a quote
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 23 2020 19:25 GMT
#119
On January 24 2020 04:23 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2020 04:17 Ej_ wrote:
Alliance 0 stuns. GG
On January 24 2020 04:13 goody153 wrote:
On January 24 2020 04:07 Ej_ wrote:
Why is Atos listed as one of the most popular items on Treant? This reminds me of when a mid Silencer on my team built Orchid 1st item.

Extra root ? I thought people built meme hammer the most on that hero

Hammer/blink is normal. Solar Crest was also listed and it's usually built as the 3rd item (that on Vlads). I've never seen Atos and honestly don't know why it would be 4th most popular pick on the hero.

Morph, Treant and CM cancels tps if that is your worry.

I like secret draft more tho. I think Morph takes too long to join the fights and viper needs a good laning stage to be useful

Feels like secret is gonna run them over midgame if they do well enough laning stage.

I was kidding, We all know that more stuns = better draft.
I like the lanes for Secret, but the first blood on AW was a bit underwhelming
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 19:31:51
January 23 2020 19:29 GMT
#120
On January 24 2020 04:05 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2020 04:03 Dracolich70 wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:58 goody153 wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:56 Elurie wrote:
On January 24 2020 03:38 Dracolich70 wrote:
Gotta wonder how Bulba is still part of EG.

He fulfilled the scapegoat role.

That for sure lol

Alot of pro players think bulba is a greater thinker of the game which is probably why alot of teams had him in the past. Just not a great player. Which means he is just perfect on the coach position
You can get away being less intelligent as a player, but not as a coach. They would do better without him.

Clearly EG thinks differently than what you suggest.

Tbh EG is doing ok considering how much of the roster changes and they now have a supernew offlaner.

VG is just better today
That VG being better has nothing to do with my comment. Your first sentence makes me wonder why you respond at all.
LiangHao
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