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Dison92
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark142 Posts
August 25 2019 10:57 GMT
#1821
On August 25 2019 19:51 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 19:49 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:45 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:41 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:39 Wintex wrote:
Impressive how strategically deep this game is. a puddle

Liquid picks cooldown based heroes and heroes who need to farm.

OG picks low cooldown heroes who only needs levels then kill everybody.

Seems good

Well you rarely see a team just leave the base one by one and die like Liquid did.
Or see tide or enigma just feed trying to save their carry without even PRESSING their ults, which give you an easy popoff every time you use them on one hero.

Anyone can make stuff seem smart when you use good color commentary.
That just looked day and night from some of the good games on the TI stage.

Liquid could've possibly done something if they fought back but they didn't they just tried to stall. They didn't think they were strong enough to fight OG's skirmishes (not OG's problem if they didn't wanna fight blame liquid for that).

It was kinda that game where two teams had opposite strats. And nobody letting go of that strat and one of them doing super well with their strat. Then that's just it

It wasn't low strategy. It just so happens that liquid's gameplan is for the midgame-lategame. While OG wants to murder them before even reaching that point and has heroes to do it

There was no amount of adapting to anything happening on the map from TL. They easily could have done that shit in, and attempt to play the skirmish in any way, especially before OG ran away with it. They need to be able to use the two ults they drafted when the other team are being needlessly reckless.
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 19:49 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:48 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:45 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:41 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:39 Wintex wrote:
Impressive how strategically deep this game is. a puddle

Liquid picks cooldown based heroes and heroes who need to farm.

OG picks low cooldown heroes who only needs levels then kill everybody.

Seems good

Well you rarely see a team just leave the base one by one and die like Liquid did.
Or see tide or enigma just feed trying to save their carry without even PRESSING their ults, which give you an easy popoff every time you use them on one hero.

Anyone can make stuff seem smart when you use good color commentary.
That just looked day and night from some of the good games on the TI stage.


I mean, this is typical TI final, what did you expect? The last TI final where you could make a statement both teams were playing to limits of their drafts was TI4.

There was way more to talk about in that sense tho. VG tried really hard to break the team that broke their strat.

wat

vg got stomped in the first 10 minutes 3 times in a row

You can reduce it to that, but there was an obvious attempt at understanding if it was down to execution, or trying to secure lanes bit by bit with different heroes and moves. They had a script to follow, but the components were somewhat different to give them the right fix.


What are you on about? TL did try to fight. When OG baited the Rosh, they tried to fight OG but got their shit pushed in, because they got split in two. Doesn't really help them, to BH 1-2 out of 5 when they have so many ways to to interrupt it, and after that they just didn't have the farm to actually fight against OG. Liquids heroes needed more farm than they had to actually fight them properly.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 10:57:20
August 25 2019 10:57 GMT
#1822
Why are we watching a repeat of game 1?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 10:59:24
August 25 2019 10:58 GMT
#1823
On August 25 2019 19:55 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 19:52 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:51 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:49 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:45 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:41 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:39 Wintex wrote:
Impressive how strategically deep this game is. a puddle

Liquid picks cooldown based heroes and heroes who need to farm.

OG picks low cooldown heroes who only needs levels then kill everybody.

Seems good

Well you rarely see a team just leave the base one by one and die like Liquid did.
Or see tide or enigma just feed trying to save their carry without even PRESSING their ults, which give you an easy popoff every time you use them on one hero.

Anyone can make stuff seem smart when you use good color commentary.
That just looked day and night from some of the good games on the TI stage.

Liquid could've possibly done something if they fought back but they didn't they just tried to stall. They didn't think they were strong enough to fight OG's skirmishes (not OG's problem if they didn't wanna fight blame liquid for that).

It was kinda that game where two teams had opposite strats. And nobody letting go of that strat and one of them doing super well with their strat. Then that's just it

It wasn't low strategy. It just so happens that liquid's gameplan is for the midgame-lategame. While OG wants to murder them before even reaching that point and has heroes to do it

There was no amount of adapting to anything happening on the map from TL. They easily could have done that shit in, and attempt to play the skirmish in any way, especially before OG ran away with it. They need to be able to use the two ults they drafted when the other team are being needlessly reckless.

Again not our problem or OG's. It was liquid's decision.

They decided to stall as they thought it was the best course of things.

Clearly they misjudged that's why they lost. It looks embarassing but i wonder how much it affected their mindset. OG crushed them

I get that, but the game looks to be in a way worse state than it was in the past TIs. it just looked bad. I guess i just hate OG too much to appreciate the dota, but i think that was a bad game, even if TI finals usually are poorer than the other games.

Sorry, but from my subjective perspective it is indeed the hate for OG that you mention that may be clouding your judgement. We have a TI final game of constant aggression, constant fighting and action, constant plays and outplays, and at the same time highlighting the importance of draft strategies and executing of a gameplan. From a spectator perspective, how is it bad?
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44306 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 11:00:50
August 25 2019 10:59 GMT
#1824
On August 25 2019 19:55 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 19:52 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:51 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:49 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:45 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:41 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:39 Wintex wrote:
Impressive how strategically deep this game is. a puddle

Liquid picks cooldown based heroes and heroes who need to farm.

OG picks low cooldown heroes who only needs levels then kill everybody.

Seems good

Well you rarely see a team just leave the base one by one and die like Liquid did.
Or see tide or enigma just feed trying to save their carry without even PRESSING their ults, which give you an easy popoff every time you use them on one hero.

Anyone can make stuff seem smart when you use good color commentary.
That just looked day and night from some of the good games on the TI stage.

Liquid could've possibly done something if they fought back but they didn't they just tried to stall. They didn't think they were strong enough to fight OG's skirmishes (not OG's problem if they didn't wanna fight blame liquid for that).

It was kinda that game where two teams had opposite strats. And nobody letting go of that strat and one of them doing super well with their strat. Then that's just it

It wasn't low strategy. It just so happens that liquid's gameplan is for the midgame-lategame. While OG wants to murder them before even reaching that point and has heroes to do it

There was no amount of adapting to anything happening on the map from TL. They easily could have done that shit in, and attempt to play the skirmish in any way, especially before OG ran away with it. They need to be able to use the two ults they drafted when the other team are being needlessly reckless.

Again not our problem or OG's. It was liquid's decision.

They decided to stall as they thought it was the best course of things.

Clearly they misjudged that's why they lost. It looks embarassing but i wonder how much it affected their mindset. OG crushed them

I get that, but the game looks to be in a way worse state than it was in the past TIs. it just looked bad. I guess i just hate OG too much to appreciate the dota, but i think that was a bad game, even if TI finals usually are poorer than the other games.

I don't really think that was low quality. It just so happens that OG kinda crushed Liquid and perhaps for your expectations even if OG wins it shouldn't look that stompy if they beat liquid.

But that is just it. OG has momentum to play fast with the last game and they did. They're playing for millions so if one team gets a momentum and has a chance to hold that advantage they won't ever give it back,

Think back on all the TI's before. There were some really stompy games like the last one,
this is a quote
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 10:59 GMT
#1825
On August 25 2019 19:57 lolfail9001 wrote:
Why are we watching a repeat of game 1?


Because TL liked the outcome.
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
August 25 2019 11:00 GMT
#1826
liquid pick sf please
and og please pick ursa for the lulz
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 11:00 GMT
#1827
Naga ban = easy Void pick for Ana, no?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 25 2019 11:00 GMT
#1828
the io draft advantage is might be too big for liquid to overcome
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44306 Posts
August 25 2019 11:01 GMT
#1829
why is liquid giving enchantress and tiny again

those are big comfort heroes for OG
this is a quote
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 25 2019 11:01 GMT
#1830
On August 25 2019 20:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
Naga ban = easy Void pick for Ana, no?

Are you the Oracle?
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 25 2019 11:02 GMT
#1831
What is this AA ban
Neosteel Enthusiast
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 11:02 GMT
#1832
On August 25 2019 20:01 Ufnal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 20:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
Naga ban = easy Void pick for Ana, no?

Are you the Oracle?

I see Enchantress and Tiny in first phase and see Naga ban.

I dare say even someone with half of my unranked mmr would predict it.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 11:02:48
August 25 2019 11:02 GMT
#1833
On August 25 2019 20:01 goody153 wrote:
why is liquid giving enchantress and tiny again

those are big comfort heroes for OG



because they cant give mag and io, and they need to ban AA in case OG lets alch through
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9592 Posts
August 25 2019 11:02 GMT
#1834
On August 25 2019 19:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 19:53 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:52 Latham wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:51 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:51 fajo wrote:
Slacks is just embarrassing at that point. Does he think the average dota player is 12?

Slacks is ok. I don't see an alternative unless you go up the stage and show how slacks it is done better.


2GD somewhere in the world: Hey, that looks like a job for me!

2GD

I backed his shooter game years ago wonder if it will ever come out


Wait, it didn't come out? I remember some buzz around it, I just assumed it released, was popular for about 1 month due to it being carried by 2GD's name, and then fizzled out. Much like Battlerite
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 11:02 GMT
#1835
On August 25 2019 20:02 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
What is this AA ban


Not sure.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
August 25 2019 11:02 GMT
#1836
On August 25 2019 19:59 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 19:55 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:52 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:51 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:49 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:45 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:41 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 19:39 Wintex wrote:
Impressive how strategically deep this game is. a puddle

Liquid picks cooldown based heroes and heroes who need to farm.

OG picks low cooldown heroes who only needs levels then kill everybody.

Seems good

Well you rarely see a team just leave the base one by one and die like Liquid did.
Or see tide or enigma just feed trying to save their carry without even PRESSING their ults, which give you an easy popoff every time you use them on one hero.

Anyone can make stuff seem smart when you use good color commentary.
That just looked day and night from some of the good games on the TI stage.

Liquid could've possibly done something if they fought back but they didn't they just tried to stall. They didn't think they were strong enough to fight OG's skirmishes (not OG's problem if they didn't wanna fight blame liquid for that).

It was kinda that game where two teams had opposite strats. And nobody letting go of that strat and one of them doing super well with their strat. Then that's just it

It wasn't low strategy. It just so happens that liquid's gameplan is for the midgame-lategame. While OG wants to murder them before even reaching that point and has heroes to do it

There was no amount of adapting to anything happening on the map from TL. They easily could have done that shit in, and attempt to play the skirmish in any way, especially before OG ran away with it. They need to be able to use the two ults they drafted when the other team are being needlessly reckless.

Again not our problem or OG's. It was liquid's decision.

They decided to stall as they thought it was the best course of things.

Clearly they misjudged that's why they lost. It looks embarassing but i wonder how much it affected their mindset. OG crushed them

I get that, but the game looks to be in a way worse state than it was in the past TIs. it just looked bad. I guess i just hate OG too much to appreciate the dota, but i think that was a bad game, even if TI finals usually are poorer than the other games.

I don't really think that was low quality. It just so happens that OG kinda crushed Liquid and perhaps for your expectations even if OG wins it shouldn't look that stompy if they beat liquid.

But that is just it. OG has momentum to play fast with the last game and they did. They're playing for millions so if one team gets a momentum and has a chance to hold that advantage they won't ever give it back,

Think back on all the TI's before. There were some really stompy games like the last one,

I get that, but it was uncharacteristically sloppy from TL, and was way worse than the NB/TL stomps.
The Bomber boy
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 25 2019 11:03 GMT
#1837
On August 25 2019 20:02 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
What is this AA ban

They keep banning it all the time, and I'm mistified too, but I'm a 2k scrub so what do I know.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 25 2019 11:03 GMT
#1838
On August 25 2019 20:02 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 20:02 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
What is this AA ban


Not sure.



its to enable alch if it gets through
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 25 2019 11:03 GMT
#1839
I'm so done with TA, go OG!
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 25 2019 11:03 GMT
#1840
AA ban is always the 1st pick team forcing the 2nd pick team to ban Alch in the first phase. The teams don't want overall 1st pick Alch and play it against AA+1.
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