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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 11:48 GMT
#2041
On August 25 2019 20:47 Snakesneaks wrote:
lgd lost in LB final might be a blessing in disguise. no home crowd would like to watch their favourites being trashed and humilitiated like brazil 1-7 germany.


I remember watching that beat down. You could see the spirit being beaten out of the crowd.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 11:48 GMT
#2042
On August 25 2019 20:47 Snakesneaks wrote:
lgd lost in LB final might be a blessing in disguise. no home crowd would like to watch their favourites being trashed and humilitiated like brazil 1-7 germany.

You have a point, if OG did the same thing to LGD in grand final, i would get worried for both OG and LGD at that point.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
August 25 2019 11:49 GMT
#2043
On August 25 2019 20:46 MintberryCrunchs wrote:
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On August 25 2019 20:41 spudde123 wrote:
Sometimes feels like people don't even play dota when they say "X team is just making so many mistakes". You constantly play with fog of war, you have to make judgments really fast whether something is a fight you can take or not. There really is no such thing as "not making mistakes", especially if the other team is constantly forcing you into these choices. Of course it could be OG that looks foolish if TL was in a bit better position in those games and managed to bait OG into really bad fights, but it's really hard to do from behind


How do i upvote this?!?!!
So damn right!

But you know ... teaching the blind about colours ...


I still think some of the comments here are borderline trolling and it gets me more mad than my favorit team (Liquid) beeing on the verge of getting stomped 1 - 3


you people are implying og/liquid are better than people on forum, you're just being ridic tbh
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44134 Posts
August 25 2019 11:49 GMT
#2044
On August 25 2019 20:44 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 20:41 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:40 Ej_ wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:39 sunrazgriz wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:38 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:36 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:34 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:33 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:30 Elurie wrote:
[quote]
You think LGD would have survived the Ember+Monkey game? No way.

There is a chance as at least LGD has a clue how to fight OG in an aggressive stance.

This is similar to why i would've preferred DK or EG fighting Newbee than VG during TI4 finals because they at least would make the games look close. Just a difference of style and familiarity

Exact same reason Newbee ruined the TI7 finals when they killed LFY.

LFY i had so much hope about that team. Whatever this is the results we have. Liquid and OG earned it

In any case. LGD's pure dota gameplay is so much more fun to watch and rewarding for a person who loves high level dota gameplay (MOST OF THE TIME). This mongolian garbage style is so boring.

its skandinavian actually

Australian actually, OG are literally playing QO's patented caveman dota right now.

Still had 1 ranged hero in game 2 :/

They would be a disappointment to QO. There needs to be zero range heroes and then play that dota.


Dota Pit Season 4, Korean Dota's highest point. They were so good they caused the great TI6 era Shuffle.

So those are the criminals who murdered the old w33ha secret and arteezy going back to secret again
this is a quote
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
August 25 2019 11:49 GMT
#2045
That smile on Ana in the booth. He can TASTE that check already
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 25 2019 11:49 GMT
#2046
On August 25 2019 20:33 goody153 wrote:
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On August 25 2019 20:30 Elurie wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:23 goody153 wrote:
I am more and more convinced that LGD should've faced OG. They looked better against OG than this shit

You think LGD would have survived the Ember+Monkey game? No way.

There is a chance as at least LGD has a clue how to fight OG in an aggressive stance.


Maybe if LGD had won the upper finals, and forced OG to show some cards in the lower finals against Liquid.

An upper OG and lower LGD grand finals will probably look just like what we're seeing now.
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
August 25 2019 11:49 GMT
#2047
forcing the enemy team to make errors is a skill and OG are the best at it
hell is other people
crnm95
Profile Joined August 2019
37 Posts
August 25 2019 11:49 GMT
#2048
On August 25 2019 20:46 Ufnal wrote:
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On August 25 2019 20:36 crnm95 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:33 Ej_ wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:32 crnm95 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:29 turpentine wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:28 crnm95 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:25 crnm95 wrote:
Watching OG, I always get a sense that they win not because they are great but because their opponents fail to bring their agame

Forcing opponents to be uncomfortable is the power of good players in every sport

I agree to a point. What I mean to say is that it seems like OG’s way of playing would lose to a team that didnt allow themselves to be bullied into not playing flawlessly


So basically OG beat teams that they're better than, and would lose to a team that was better than them

Not exactly. More like OG strategical approach to dota is one dimensional and unsound in that it relies on their opponents being sufficiently prone to make mistakes.

I'd say it's very fucking sound if it works well vs the best teams in the world.

Thats because you’re so unambitious as to settle for winning. If OG cared about greatness they wouldnt just be content with beating teams that are making mistakes, they would play in a way that would allow them to not instantly lose if a team that doesnt make mistakes comes along

Troll or salt mine?

I’d go with not a fan of the playstyle OG opts for. I find it strategically uninteresting. But credit where credit is due OG is executing their strategy very well, playing well together as a team.
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
August 25 2019 11:49 GMT
#2049
OG's coach looks more stressed than the players
Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 11:50 GMT
#2050
On August 25 2019 20:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 20:47 Snakesneaks wrote:
lgd lost in LB final might be a blessing in disguise. no home crowd would like to watch their favourites being trashed and humilitiated like brazil 1-7 germany.

You have a point, if OG did the same thing to LGD in grand final, i would get worried for both OG and LGD at that point.


OG would have probably 3-0'd LGD. OG had LGD figured out and TL replicated most of it in the Lowers. LGD is still extremely good, but I think the Home Soil Pressure might have actually been worse.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 11:50:47
August 25 2019 11:50 GMT
#2051
Far too many people have the belief mistakes are purely technical or strategic errors. Many mistakes are the showing of habits, and the perfect team who has no habits to show does not (and never will) exist. OG exploit habits better than anyone else.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 25 2019 11:50 GMT
#2052
On August 25 2019 20:49 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 20:44 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:41 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:40 Ej_ wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:39 sunrazgriz wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:38 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:36 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:34 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:33 goody153 wrote:
[quote]
There is a chance as at least LGD has a clue how to fight OG in an aggressive stance.

This is similar to why i would've preferred DK or EG fighting Newbee than VG during TI4 finals because they at least would make the games look close. Just a difference of style and familiarity

Exact same reason Newbee ruined the TI7 finals when they killed LFY.

LFY i had so much hope about that team. Whatever this is the results we have. Liquid and OG earned it

In any case. LGD's pure dota gameplay is so much more fun to watch and rewarding for a person who loves high level dota gameplay (MOST OF THE TIME). This mongolian garbage style is so boring.

its skandinavian actually

Australian actually, OG are literally playing QO's patented caveman dota right now.

Still had 1 ranged hero in game 2 :/

They would be a disappointment to QO. There needs to be zero range heroes and then play that dota.


Dota Pit Season 4, Korean Dota's highest point. They were so good they caused the great TI6 era Shuffle.

So those are the criminals who murdered the old w33ha secret and arteezy going back to secret again

fucking best hype host ever
The Bomber boy
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 25 2019 11:51 GMT
#2053
On August 25 2019 20:49 turpentine wrote:
OG's coach looks more stressed than the players

Because the coach probably doesn't dope.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Tegenaria
Profile Joined November 2011
France379 Posts
August 25 2019 11:51 GMT
#2054
Void & Oracle first pick for Liquid

I want to believe
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 25 2019 11:52 GMT
#2055
no one doing the no-ban iceiceice strat
The Bomber boy
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 11:52 GMT
#2056
On August 25 2019 20:49 Latham wrote:
That smile on Ana in the booth. He can TASTE that check already

Yeah, he will be able to finally go back to playing with friends in Australian pubs soon enough lmao.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 25 2019 11:53 GMT
#2057
On August 25 2019 20:45 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 20:45 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:41 spudde123 wrote:
Sometimes feels like people don't even play dota when they say "X team is just making so many mistakes". You constantly play with fog of war, you have to make judgments really fast whether something is a fight you can take or not. There really is no such thing as "not making mistakes", especially if the other team is constantly forcing you into these choices. Of course it could be OG that looks foolish if TL was in a bit better position in those games and managed to get bait OG into really bad fights, but it's really hard to do from behind

I mean, Liquid did objectively make many mistakes including those that were not directly forced, i have even seen Miracle fail last hitting under tower without any pressure, let alone that w33's use of refraction under nether ward to break his own blink. All it tells me is that OG's psychological game works.
A GF is a high pressure situation, where OG thrives, and they don't get easily rattled..


OG's main stage mental fortitude is why they're here.
Definitely.
LiangHao
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 11:53:42
August 25 2019 11:53 GMT
#2058
Liquid ready to test their anti io strat?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 25 2019 11:53 GMT
#2059
Oh shit, IO Ana
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
August 25 2019 11:53 GMT
#2060
How did I feel this was coming :D
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