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[MDL] 2018 Changsha Major - Playoffs Day 1

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 15 2018 21:27 GMT
#1

MDL


Wednesday, May 16 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)Mars Dota 2 League/Changsha Major/2018/Group Stage

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BTS

Format

  • Ten team Double Elimination
  • First round of the Lower Bracket is Bo1
  • All other matches are Bo3
  • Bo5 Grand Finals

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 15 2018 21:27 GMT
#2
Poll: OG vs Vici Gaming Storm

Vici Gaming Storm Win (11)
 
73%

OG Win (4)
 
27%

15 total votes

Your vote: OG vs Vici Gaming Storm

(Vote): OG Win
(Vote): Vici Gaming Storm Win


Poll: TNC vs Mineski

Mineski Win (14)
 
58%

TNC Win (10)
 
42%

24 total votes

Your vote: TNC vs Mineski

(Vote): TNC Win
(Vote): Mineski Win


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arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-15 23:20:43
May 15 2018 23:00 GMT
#3
A win for Vici Gaming today should put them in a very good spot for direct TI invite.

The lower half of the upper bracket is really interesting with Vici, Mineski and TNC fighting for a place in upper bracket final. In the upper half, Secret should be the expected team to make it to the UB finals, but both OG and VGJ.Storm can upset them.

I am hoping 1 SEA team beats Vici Gaming today and make it to upper bracket finals (preferrably TNC as they need the points a lot more more than Mineski). If I am correct, TNC winning today might give us Mineski vs LGD elimination series as early as Lower bracket round 2.

I like the way this tournament shaped up. The format is pretty good, but the only thing I disliked is the tie-breaker rule. If you only see number of 2-0 wins I don't think its fair, because among teams having equal points, the team that has higher 2-0 wins should also have higher 0-2 losses. I think they should have just looked at head to head, and after that results against lower teams and then results against higher teams. This tiebreaker rule did hurt Invictus Gaming a lot.

Also I am quite surprised no tournament ever implemented the difference in networth calculation as a criteria to decide the better team for tiebreakers (I am sure this method will also have lots of negative points, but still better than this 2-0 win rule according to me).
The more you hurt me, The Stronger I become....
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
May 15 2018 23:42 GMT
#4
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calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
May 16 2018 00:49 GMT
#5
In the past couple of years people have often complained that the Western scene lacked depth, even when Western teams won TI. This year it seems that dubious honor belongs to China now, and TI is yet to come.

Personally it appears to me that the more frequent changes to the meta have left the Chinese scene gradually lagging behind. Every once in a while they have a flash of brilliance and show up (usually at TI), but the days when DK, iG, VG etc took turns dominating international events seem so far back. Now it's the reverse with Chinese teams struggling to defend their home turf.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-16 01:26:01
May 16 2018 01:25 GMT
#6
That seems an odd characterisation. China still has by far the most depth. They currently have 4 teams in the top 8 of DPC despite few invites (most of which Newbee hogged) and then you have a good number of teams behind them all capable of making it to TI and doing decently well (iG, LFY, Keen, iG.V, Ehome, etc.). Obviously the top Western teams have won more this season, but I don't see how that relates to depth.

The real problem for China is finding a team that's good enough to actually win TI. LGD's the only team I currently think of as a serious contender. VG are good, but I have trouble believing they're good enough. I love Lanm, but I don't think they're even in the same realm as LGD in terms of individual skill. Newbee's underperforming horribly and even at their best they were always the gatekeeper team (beat everyone who's not world-class, lose to the world-class teams). VG.j... I have a lot of faith in ddc disruptor, but...

Since this is a Chinese TI year though, Keen's obviously going to come out of nowhere and pummel everyone.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
May 16 2018 02:26 GMT
#7
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
May 16 2018 02:54 GMT
#8
how does storm lose mid to ember spirit
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 16 2018 02:54 GMT
#9
It's easier now since root stops ult... but it still should never happen
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-16 02:59:25
May 16 2018 02:58 GMT
#10
On May 16 2018 11:54 Nevuk wrote:
It's easier now since root stops ult... but it still should never happen


It is much easier now but static remnant completely owns the flame guard which is the only thing that allows ember to trade.
Seb probably feels so bad for losing that.
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-16 04:02:04
May 16 2018 03:50 GMT
#11
godz pls. People dont get jetlag flying from Thailand to China. It's only 1hour time difference

Reso double rampageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-16 04:06:05
May 16 2018 04:05 GMT
#12
nobrain was left reso was right?

On May 16 2018 11:58 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2018 11:54 Nevuk wrote:
It's easier now since root stops ult... but it still should never happen


It is much easier now but static remnant completely owns the flame guard which is the only thing that allows ember to trade.
Seb probably feels so bad for losing that.


yawar took a point in sleight to dodge remnants
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 16 2018 04:10 GMT
#13
I fear for EG's chances to qualify for TI having to compete with VGJ and Optic.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-16 04:24:19
May 16 2018 04:22 GMT
#14
On May 16 2018 13:05 Thermia wrote:
nobrain was left reso was right?

Show nested quote +
On May 16 2018 11:58 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On May 16 2018 11:54 Nevuk wrote:
It's easier now since root stops ult... but it still should never happen


It is much easier now but static remnant completely owns the flame guard which is the only thing that allows ember to trade.
Seb probably feels so bad for losing that.


yawar took a point in sleight to dodge remnants


Everyone goes 1 point in SoF against storm. You still lose. CD is 3.5 seconds on remnant and you have a faerie fire. SoF is required to solo kill storm at 6 unless he lets you walk up to him.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 16 2018 04:40 GMT
#15
I can't tell if BSJ does his humorous stuff on purpose, but it is quite hilarious.

LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
May 16 2018 05:23 GMT
#16
tnc steals aegis then gg out lololol
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 16 2018 06:28 GMT
#17
Wow this radiance ancient with tinker bot-ing in is some disgusting stuff
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-16 06:43:51
May 16 2018 06:43 GMT
#18
Rapiercopter coming?
-Terran-
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 16 2018 06:46 GMT
#19
that double rift was a fun play
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Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
May 16 2018 07:20 GMT
#20
Valve compendium prediction website is so freaking amateur.
last night it listed Mineski vs VGJS which is wrong and funnily 3rd party web Liquidpedia shows correctly
and now it's showing Mineski vs Mineski for next match
WTF VALVE ?!
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