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Kelefei2016
Profile Joined August 2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-16 11:21:35
May 16 2018 11:21 GMT
#61
Core Kunkka doesnt work, Kunkka cannot persistentLy provide great damage, Kunkka works nothing in front of dk and axe.
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 16 2018 11:29 GMT
#62
tbh i was worried about VG if things went late but WOW this razor went off
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 16 2018 11:29 GMT
#63
VG set the meta coming in, and they're currently still the best at it.

This is their tournament to win.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
May 16 2018 11:31 GMT
#64
On May 16 2018 20:29 Taf the Ghost wrote:
VG set the meta coming in, and they're currently still the best at it.

This is their tournament to win.

If nothing Else securing their ti invite
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 16 2018 11:31 GMT
#65
The ultimate anti carry build. Skadi + shiva = 90 attack speed decrease and 40%+35%(bkb piercing) ms slow
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
May 16 2018 11:33 GMT
#66
Finding it boring to watch Doom and IO winning. They just seem to OP. Can't see why they aren't getting banned. Not sure i like this patch, seem if you are ahead in games with str heroes its nearly impossible to do comeback as you are to tanky.
GO OG
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 16 2018 11:36 GMT
#67
On May 16 2018 20:31 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2018 20:29 Taf the Ghost wrote:
VG set the meta coming in, and they're currently still the best at it.

This is their tournament to win.

If nothing Else securing their ti invite


VG just needs to win this series, then their TI invite is all but locked up.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
May 16 2018 12:01 GMT
#68
On May 16 2018 20:33 Sapaio wrote:
Finding it boring to watch Doom and IO winning. They just seem to OP. Can't see why they aren't getting banned. Not sure i like this patch, seem if you are ahead in games with str heroes its nearly impossible to do comeback as you are to tanky.

I don't mind wisp plays as it is fun seeing a good wisp player save a few of his cores and relocating around the map. However i agree with doom, hero is so boring, just sits in lane with regen aura chilling, then walks around map every 2 minutes dooming someone in a team fight and popping crimson and/or pipe xD
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Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
May 16 2018 12:15 GMT
#69
On May 16 2018 21:01 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2018 20:33 Sapaio wrote:
Finding it boring to watch Doom and IO winning. They just seem to OP. Can't see why they aren't getting banned. Not sure i like this patch, seem if you are ahead in games with str heroes its nearly impossible to do comeback as you are to tanky.

I don't mind wisp plays as it is fun seeing a good wisp player save a few of his cores and relocating around the map. However i agree with doom, hero is so boring, just sits in lane with regen aura chilling, then walks around map every 2 minutes dooming someone in a team fight and popping crimson and/or pipe xD


I like IO as a hero normally just seem to Tanky now. Like when he is more squishy so high risk reward hero.
GO OG
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 16 2018 12:17 GMT
#70
Mushit >.<
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 16 2018 12:21 GMT
#71
On May 16 2018 21:15 Sapaio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2018 21:01 Pandemona wrote:
On May 16 2018 20:33 Sapaio wrote:
Finding it boring to watch Doom and IO winning. They just seem to OP. Can't see why they aren't getting banned. Not sure i like this patch, seem if you are ahead in games with str heroes its nearly impossible to do comeback as you are to tanky.

I don't mind wisp plays as it is fun seeing a good wisp player save a few of his cores and relocating around the map. However i agree with doom, hero is so boring, just sits in lane with regen aura chilling, then walks around map every 2 minutes dooming someone in a team fight and popping crimson and/or pipe xD


I like IO as a hero normally just seem to Tanky now. Like when he is more squishy so high risk reward hero.

it's still a really squishy hero in the early game. the problem is that the early game doesn't matter lmao
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 16 2018 12:23 GMT
#72
Doom what a hero. Deletes a hero with ult, aoe stun multiple heroes with devour skill
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 16 2018 12:33 GMT
#73
Either take the Doom or ban the Doom.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
May 16 2018 12:35 GMT
#74
I like how you don't even need aghs on Doom anymore, you used to have to get aghs on Doom back in TI5(?) was it that it was used alot i think it was.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 16 2018 12:36 GMT
#75
LMAO I WENT TO A PUBLIC SCHOOL PARTICIPATION TROPHIES

grandgrant is the greatest
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 16 2018 12:37 GMT
#76
I hope they nerf Doom a bit by the time TI rolls around that hero is disgusting

or well, Infernal Blade is disgusting.
WriterXiao8~~
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 16 2018 12:38 GMT
#77
invest now rofl
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 16 2018 12:38 GMT
#78
DP's a pretty awkward hero when the game's not all about teamfighting. So many awkward ults.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-16 12:40:14
May 16 2018 12:39 GMT
#79
On May 16 2018 21:37 Kipsate wrote:
I hope they nerf Doom a bit by the time TI rolls around that hero is disgusting

or well, Infernal Blade is disgusting.

fortunately there are meta changing patches literally twice a month! so Infernal Blade, the Hero will probably be dumpster tier by this time next week
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 16 2018 12:40 GMT
#80
Icefrog doesn't nerf strengths of hero directly, so he will probably nerf the scaling of infernal blade.

Infernal blade is like the strongest early game nuking spell at the cost of 40 mana lol.
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