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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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On April 14 2018 17:54 Pandemona wrote:
Sorry its late!
Haven't missed much, it's been a tad clowny.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
I noticed iceberg's SF is pretty darn good
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SF with arcane rune and cd talent > tinker
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On April 14 2018 19:31 babysimba wrote:
SF with arcane rune and cd talent > tinker
And Octarine.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Nice one FTM, need to up it even more to beat VGJ it seems though
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Amazingly, another 2-1 series. 5 of 7 series have gone 2-1, which is a bit different than recent, haha.
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w33ha is apparently pulling a Jimmy and heading to SA for the run towards TI8.
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Medusa vs CK. Wow. Apparently Fnatic has set the meta. This is going to be a LONG tournament.
In other news, TB was never banned nor picked. I don't get these drafters.
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Disgusting SF draft. Cogs souls abuse. Tusk iceshard is the best ganking support for SF to land 3 razes easily.
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On April 14 2018 20:28 babysimba wrote:
Disgusting SF draft. Cogs souls abuse. Tusk iceshard is the best ganking support for SF to land 3 razes easily.
And the CK comes with a chunk of catch as well. Actually a good draft from NaVi, and a bad one from SG.
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NaVi dominated this game! really nice!
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Given the way NaVi's supports are itemizing, I can see they got yelled at a lot after yesterday.
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NaVi vs Fnatic again. What did we do to deserve this?
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On April 14 2018 21:55 BlazingGlory wrote:
NaVi vs Fnatic again. What did we do to deserve this?
I'm not sure, but if NaVi itemizes correctly, hopefully it'll be much faster.
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how long is this damn break
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On April 14 2018 22:28 nVme wrote:
how long is this damn break
Over/Under Fnatic-Na'Vi match length?
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On April 14 2018 22:33 Taf the Ghost wrote:Over/Under Fnatic-Na'Vi match length?
under at -100000000 odds
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VGJ.T switched rolls when not necessary, so big intra-team drama?
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Interesting thing when you get a Pubstack vs International LAN team on a LAN is just the fact that the real Teams actually work on the little strategic things from the mid-game on. VGJ.T would lose against most other teams they'd meet on LAN.
VGJ.T is getting items to make the fight easier, rather than FTM's approach of "we can win this at X time".
Edit: Practiced team beats pubstack that threw away several leads. That's normally what happens with all of this, but if FTM can learn to remove those errors, they can walk away with a game like this.
Rotk wasn't too pleased because he knew that as well.
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wow ftm with the throws, some game losing missed hook shots too
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Good strategy against a low experienced team: pick a carry that requires really good *team* item builds. They wouldn't itemize to cause you too much issue.
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Goodnight room. Goodnight moon. Goodnight cow jumping over the moon.
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The Over/Under is 3 hours of total game time. Let's go!
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United States15275 Posts
Are teams underestimating the value of taking T1s? At the very least I'd imagine a dedicated objective taker would still be mandatory.
Also Lebron has been lulworthy so far this tournament.
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On April 15 2018 02:04 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Are teams underestimating the value of taking T1s? At the very least I'd imagine a dedicated objective taker would still be mandatory.
Also Lebron has been lulworthy so far this tournament.
The good teams? No. The rest of them? Clearly, though the meta has moved far less team fight at 20 minutes, so it's not as key.
As for Lebron, yeah. NaVi doesn't have a pos 5, they've got two pos 4 and it's a big problem. Though Lebron can ward decently, so that's to his credit.
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damn, that will be a long game again...
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United States15275 Posts
Someone link Dendi to Torte's guides.
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20min siege without killing a single tier 3 tower and now Navi takes roshan.
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Dark Rift for 3m. from NaVi
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If you build Shadow Fiend like that, you deserve to lose.
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Neither team should get points from this display.
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Can someone tell these CIS players to play eul leshrac instead of eul SF
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On April 15 2018 02:43 babysimba wrote:
Can someone tell these CIS players to play eul leshrac instead of eul SF
Just pick a Lina. She keeps doing damage as things go late.
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Maybe the thing I still find most interesting about Wings run at TI6 is that almost no one has ever learned from that run. Wings was a T2 team that got really hot in Metas that favored them. They used extremely clever item builds to make up for their drafting approach (the items went with the drafting & counter-pick), which was much of the difference between going out last at Manila Major and winning TI6. (It helps that Faith'bian suddenly became the best in the world on about 15 heroes for a week.)
That's much of the difference between T3 and T2 teams. The item builds for the team synergize & help the team win the game, along with the path being thought out from the beginning. NaVi lost the first series against Fnatic by items that didn't do much to help them win. Fnatic won this one by building properly.
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How many lane swaps? Must be a new record.
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On April 15 2018 03:17 maze. wrote:
How many lane swaps? Must be a new record.
Maybe 4? It was a lot, but it was a good strategy by NaVi. I don't think they planned to swap that much, but it prevented any pressure on the Luna. That's what they really wanted.
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Any other series, I'd say this is pretty much over, but not in this series.
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On April 15 2018 03:23 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Any other series, I'd say this is pretty much over, but not in this series.
It's over for this game, but I doubt Fnatic loses another. They drafted horrible lanes, and Luna is one of these heroes who doesn't really let leads like this get away.
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United States15275 Posts
Centaur in the first phase was bizarre. Was it meant to be some type of double fake out?
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I'm just happy they drafted a serious tower pusher.
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This should be an under 45 minute game. Watch this go 95 minutes.
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idk if the pa can carry against ld
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On April 15 2018 04:05 nVme wrote:
idk if the pa can carry against ld
NaVi can explode the bear even in the ultra-late game.
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i gotta say adam is not playing very well
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On April 15 2018 04:16 Taf the Ghost wrote:NaVi can explode the bear even in the ultra-late game.
im assjming dagger crits should take care of the birds too?
ye navi should have this if they snowball
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On April 15 2018 04:18 nVme wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2018 04:16 Taf the Ghost wrote:On April 15 2018 04:05 nVme wrote:
idk if the pa can carry against ld NaVi can explode the bear even in the ultra-late game. im assjming dagger crits should take care of the birds too? ye navi should have this if they snowball
this puck needs to be at these fights to silence warlock and bm or that happens
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how the hell did slardar survive that
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On April 15 2018 04:21 nVme wrote:
how the hell did slardar survive that
tusk didnt hold snowball
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On April 15 2018 04:22 Spicy_Curry wrote:tusk didnt hold snowball
i think as long as navi doesnt get caught in multi hero warlock ult and bonds i think they should be ok, playing well by going for pick offs
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i would wait till pa bkb before a huge teamfight into rosh
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United States15275 Posts
Was Desolator the correct item for PA? With BF, you could push out the side lanes with PA/Puck and sacrifice the first Aegis while securing the late game.
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On April 15 2018 04:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Was Desolator the correct item for PA? With BF, you could push out the side lanes with PA/Puck and sacrifice the first Aegis while securing the late game.
If they had played the fight over the roshan better, I think it'd be fine.
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Dendi has had close to 0 impact on this game
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Warlock actually turned out to be the biggest problem for NaVi.
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general played very well that game
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ye that warlock ult with the cores being melee was game losing
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On April 15 2018 04:42 plasmidghost wrote:
So glad Fnatic pulled out the victory
I wanted them to lose, for the memes. 
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