On April 06 2018 16:02 Snakesneaks wrote:
ame mk only dealt 7.4k damage ??
ame mk only dealt 7.4k damage ??
he did 73k hero damage
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Thetwinmasters
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On April 06 2018 16:02 Snakesneaks wrote: ame mk only dealt 7.4k damage ?? he did 73k hero damage | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On April 06 2018 16:00 Shergal wrote: that 4v5 smoke wraparound into rosh was a kind of play i don't think many teams would even think about let alone pull off with such decisiveness, including mineski in any context that isn't their insane level this tournament Mineski probably falls off after this tournament, given how cleanly they're currently playing, but if they win here, it's probably enough to lock in a TI invite. | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On April 06 2018 16:05 Taf the Ghost wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 16:00 Shergal wrote: that 4v5 smoke wraparound into rosh was a kind of play i don't think many teams would even think about let alone pull off with such decisiveness, including mineski in any context that isn't their insane level this tournament Mineski probably falls off after this tournament, given how cleanly they're currently playing, but if they win here, it's probably enough to lock in a TI invite. Mineski are 4th in the rankings with their current state (grand finalists at this tournament), they're pretty much confirmed | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
Related to that, LGD & TNC have real chances to capitalize here. Winning this tournament puts you in a good place to lock in a generally safe invite slot. (And the Prize Pool doesn't hurt.) TNC, especially, doesn't have another LAN for a while, and they have to fight Mineski & Fnatic for qualifier slots. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
having them decided by how many invites to tournaments teams got or how hard their regional quals are would suck | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On April 06 2018 16:14 TomatoBisque wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 16:05 Taf the Ghost wrote: On April 06 2018 16:00 Shergal wrote: that 4v5 smoke wraparound into rosh was a kind of play i don't think many teams would even think about let alone pull off with such decisiveness, including mineski in any context that isn't their insane level this tournament Mineski probably falls off after this tournament, given how cleanly they're currently playing, but if they win here, it's probably enough to lock in a TI invite. Mineski are 4th in the rankings with their current state (grand finalists at this tournament), they're pretty much confirmed Winning a Major with 0 current DPC points nets you 2250, which is level with Mineski. If they win, the only way they can be dislodged is if someone wins a Major and places highly in another. It puts valuable space between them and the teams currently in 5th through 11th. It has a good chance to hold, from their current number, but the key points to 3k as being a "lock". A win locks them. If they don't win, it's going to be close at the end of the season, mostly as the only teams likely to win a Major are all in this tournament (+ Fnatic). Mathematical space, which is high placing at 2 Majors, between them and those close by are the important numbers for locking in an Invite. | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On April 06 2018 16:18 Orome wrote: i hope invites dont end up being too close having them decided by how many invites to tournaments teams got or how hard their regional quals are would suck This is most at risk for the eastern teams, who tend to get screwed on direct invites and have cutthroat qualifiers However, there's a lot of quality Chinese and SEA teams so it's unlikely for all the good teams to get direct invites anyway (VG, VGJ, Newbee, LGD and TNC, Mineski, Fnatic), but in the current state it's pretty likely that enough will get direct invites that the others should have a relatively easy qualifiers compared to the gauntlet they've been going through the whole seaso | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On April 06 2018 16:18 Orome wrote: i hope invites dont end up being too close having them decided by how many invites to tournaments teams got or how hard their regional quals are would suck Only real problem is the Local vs International meta issues. Valve can smooth that out by the way they do regional slots, though there's always been a bias from doing well really early in the season, which the DPC actually lessens a bit, given the way the old invite system worked. | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On April 06 2018 16:26 Taf the Ghost wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 16:14 TomatoBisque wrote: On April 06 2018 16:05 Taf the Ghost wrote: On April 06 2018 16:00 Shergal wrote: that 4v5 smoke wraparound into rosh was a kind of play i don't think many teams would even think about let alone pull off with such decisiveness, including mineski in any context that isn't their insane level this tournament Mineski probably falls off after this tournament, given how cleanly they're currently playing, but if they win here, it's probably enough to lock in a TI invite. Mineski are 4th in the rankings with their current state (grand finalists at this tournament), they're pretty much confirmed Winning a Major with 0 current DPC points nets you 2250, which is level with Mineski. If they win, the only way they can be dislodged is if someone wins a Major and places highly in another. It puts valuable space between them and the teams currently in 5th through 11th. It has a good chance to hold, from their current number, but the key points to 3k as being a "lock". A win locks them. If they don't win, it's going to be close at the end of the season, mostly as the only teams likely to win a Major are all in this tournament (+ Fnatic). Mathematical space, which is high placing at 2 Majors, between them and those close by are the important numbers for locking in an Invite. Mathematically Mineski isn't locked, but I think the chances of 5 of VGs/Newbee/LGD/TNC/Fnatic/EG getting a perfect enough setup for the remaining tournaments is pretty unlikely, but I'm not a statistician | ||
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DropBear
Australia4385 Posts
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babysimba
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On April 06 2018 16:40 DropBear wrote: Helm of the dominator needs a nerf. It's too strong for its cost I would nerf it to make it unable to dominate enemy lane creeps which includes catapult. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On April 06 2018 16:37 TomatoBisque wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 16:26 Taf the Ghost wrote: On April 06 2018 16:14 TomatoBisque wrote: On April 06 2018 16:05 Taf the Ghost wrote: On April 06 2018 16:00 Shergal wrote: that 4v5 smoke wraparound into rosh was a kind of play i don't think many teams would even think about let alone pull off with such decisiveness, including mineski in any context that isn't their insane level this tournament Mineski probably falls off after this tournament, given how cleanly they're currently playing, but if they win here, it's probably enough to lock in a TI invite. Mineski are 4th in the rankings with their current state (grand finalists at this tournament), they're pretty much confirmed Winning a Major with 0 current DPC points nets you 2250, which is level with Mineski. If they win, the only way they can be dislodged is if someone wins a Major and places highly in another. It puts valuable space between them and the teams currently in 5th through 11th. It has a good chance to hold, from their current number, but the key points to 3k as being a "lock". A win locks them. If they don't win, it's going to be close at the end of the season, mostly as the only teams likely to win a Major are all in this tournament (+ Fnatic). Mathematical space, which is high placing at 2 Majors, between them and those close by are the important numbers for locking in an Invite. Mathematically Mineski isn't locked, but I think the chances of 5 of VGs/Newbee/LGD/TNC/Fnatic/EG getting a perfect enough setup for the remaining tournaments is pretty unlikely, but I'm not a statistician At 4th & 2250 points, they actually only need 1 team outside of the Top 8 to vault in. Say LGD. Then the teams below them are likely to all get more points, and they could end up 9th. That gets far, far less likely at 3150, which they'd be at if they win the tournament. | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On April 06 2018 16:49 Taf the Ghost wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 16:37 TomatoBisque wrote: On April 06 2018 16:26 Taf the Ghost wrote: On April 06 2018 16:14 TomatoBisque wrote: On April 06 2018 16:05 Taf the Ghost wrote: On April 06 2018 16:00 Shergal wrote: that 4v5 smoke wraparound into rosh was a kind of play i don't think many teams would even think about let alone pull off with such decisiveness, including mineski in any context that isn't their insane level this tournament Mineski probably falls off after this tournament, given how cleanly they're currently playing, but if they win here, it's probably enough to lock in a TI invite. Mineski are 4th in the rankings with their current state (grand finalists at this tournament), they're pretty much confirmed Winning a Major with 0 current DPC points nets you 2250, which is level with Mineski. If they win, the only way they can be dislodged is if someone wins a Major and places highly in another. It puts valuable space between them and the teams currently in 5th through 11th. It has a good chance to hold, from their current number, but the key points to 3k as being a "lock". A win locks them. If they don't win, it's going to be close at the end of the season, mostly as the only teams likely to win a Major are all in this tournament (+ Fnatic). Mathematical space, which is high placing at 2 Majors, between them and those close by are the important numbers for locking in an Invite. Mathematically Mineski isn't locked, but I think the chances of 5 of VGs/Newbee/LGD/TNC/Fnatic/EG getting a perfect enough setup for the remaining tournaments is pretty unlikely, but I'm not a statistician At 4th & 2250 points, they actually only need 1 team outside of the Top 8 to vault in. Say LGD. Then the teams below them are likely to all get more points, and they could end up 9th. That gets far, far less likely at 3150, which they'd be at if they win the tournament. ya but they also need the teams in 5th-8th to also do well enough to jump over them, which is what I think is unlikely especially since Liquid+VP are both still strong and are constantly threatening to take up half of the top 4 spots | ||
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babysimba
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DropBear
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babysimba
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sunrazgriz
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On April 06 2018 16:57 sunrazgriz wrote: TNC is going try hard to ALL SEA Finals Love to see it. VP might have a damage problem pretty soon. | ||
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sunrazgriz
Vatican City State1573 Posts
On April 06 2018 16:59 Taf the Ghost wrote: Love to see it. VP might have a damage problem pretty soon. yeah VP played under perform since yesterday | ||
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Pandemona
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