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On February 24 2018 02:45 Tegenaria wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2018 02:42 goody153 wrote: TB needs a HUGE hero rework not just a nerf
this is the only hero that has a high chase capacity(high range + skadi + manta build), really high hp, high attack speed and high armor that actually outscales anything in damage and the farm acceleration just keeps increasing the longer the game
even pre-nerfed range druid didn't look this abusable .. it's just so good that i don't think there's a single hero who has better carry potential than that hero
he just does almost everything better than other rightclick heroes
Cause if icefrog just gets nerfed it's not gonna be enough or too much that renders the hero unusable. Agree with most part exept TB has a very low HP pool and strenght gain. He just need a nerf on reflection and a nerf to Sunder IMO
I agree with this. Maybe if reflection doesn't apply passives + heavy range nerf on sunder and he's probably in a decent place
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On February 24 2018 02:45 Tegenaria wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2018 02:42 goody153 wrote: TB needs a HUGE hero rework not just a nerf
this is the only hero that has a high chase capacity(high range + skadi + manta build), really high hp, high attack speed and high armor that actually outscales anything in damage and the farm acceleration just keeps increasing the longer the game
even pre-nerfed range druid didn't look this abusable .. it's just so good that i don't think there's a single hero who has better carry potential than that hero
he just does almost everything better than other rightclick heroes
Cause if icefrog just gets nerfed it's not gonna be enough or too much that renders the hero unusable. Agree with most part exept TB has a very low HP pool and strenght gain. He just need a nerf on reflection and a nerf to Sunder IMO Him being low strength gain is practically useless due to the fact that the build he goes always goes for stats that he still ends up with 2-3k just like every other carry.
Nerfing sunder is just gonna make him useless i think.
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Sunder is the bullshit spell on TB. Need enough hard disables to deal with him late game, but heroes with hard disables tend to be shit early game and will give too much space to TB.
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On February 24 2018 02:49 Wineandbread wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2018 02:45 Tegenaria wrote:On February 24 2018 02:42 goody153 wrote: TB needs a HUGE hero rework not just a nerf
this is the only hero that has a high chase capacity(high range + skadi + manta build), really high hp, high attack speed and high armor that actually outscales anything in damage and the farm acceleration just keeps increasing the longer the game
even pre-nerfed range druid didn't look this abusable .. it's just so good that i don't think there's a single hero who has better carry potential than that hero
he just does almost everything better than other rightclick heroes
Cause if icefrog just gets nerfed it's not gonna be enough or too much that renders the hero unusable. Agree with most part exept TB has a very low HP pool and strenght gain. He just need a nerf on reflection and a nerf to Sunder IMO I agree with this. Maybe if reflection doesn't apply passives + heavy range nerf on sunder and he's probably in a decent place Huh range nerf on sunder is actually a reasonable solution but how much nerf and does it still scale to full range ? Since TB is really broken around mid-lategame so if it's just the early-midgame range nerf it's gonna be useless considering how fast TB gets levels.
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Is Secret the only team that can comeback against Liquid? Yes, Liquid does lose to other teams, but it's always after they lose the lanes and get snowballed, but I remember a couple games where they were winning against Secret, but couldn't finish the game.
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secret won? can someone give me a summary, I had to take a long phone call
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On February 24 2018 03:02 Achaian wrote: secret won? can someone give me a summary, I had to take a long phone call
Can't break high-ground, Terrorblade counters SF.
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On February 24 2018 02:51 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2018 02:49 Wineandbread wrote:On February 24 2018 02:45 Tegenaria wrote:On February 24 2018 02:42 goody153 wrote: TB needs a HUGE hero rework not just a nerf
this is the only hero that has a high chase capacity(high range + skadi + manta build), really high hp, high attack speed and high armor that actually outscales anything in damage and the farm acceleration just keeps increasing the longer the game
even pre-nerfed range druid didn't look this abusable .. it's just so good that i don't think there's a single hero who has better carry potential than that hero
he just does almost everything better than other rightclick heroes
Cause if icefrog just gets nerfed it's not gonna be enough or too much that renders the hero unusable. Agree with most part exept TB has a very low HP pool and strenght gain. He just need a nerf on reflection and a nerf to Sunder IMO I agree with this. Maybe if reflection doesn't apply passives + heavy range nerf on sunder and he's probably in a decent place Huh range nerf on sunder is actually a reasonable solution but how much nerf and does it still scale to full range ? Since TB is really broken around mid-lategame so if it's just the early-midgame range nerf it's gonna be useless considering how fast TB gets levels.
I don't think it should scale to its original range. Right now I feel like Sunder is basically a better version of time lapse, 550 range more or less means he gets it off no matter what as long as he's not chain cc'd, with the benefit of fucking up an enemy hero's HP pool. And it's no mana at lvl3.
Maybe around 350 range? And add a slight mana cost at lvl3
Well who knows what icefrog wants. At least we'll see if his nerf is warranted after this major, I think the next 2 week patch will definitely nerf him somehow
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Tb again, surprise surprise
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Ok secret going to win this
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really not sure what secret see on undying this patch
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get bloodseeker please Secret
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Undying to rekt TB's lane. Low str hero that gets decayed = GG. This game Liquid actually has weak supports, I don't think they can protect TB this time.
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On February 24 2018 03:15 babysimba wrote: Undying to rekt TB's lane. Low str hero that gets decayed = GG. This game Liquid actually has weak supports, I don't think they can protect TB this time.
This brood will create the chaos Liquid need IMO
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Liquid can potentially pick last pick brood for Matu that rapes Secret though
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Ah man, liquid drafts are so boring
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here i thought its going to be hard for liquid ... and there is the broodmother
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Only way is to put bat in brood lane I guess. At least bat can go into jungle
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