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Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 14 2016 03:53 GMT
#4281
On August 14 2016 12:52 Papercappu wrote:
1st place 9m 2nd place 3m. what a difference

6 million dollar observer ward!
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
August 14 2016 03:53 GMT
#4282
On August 14 2016 12:52 Papercappu wrote:
1st place 9m 2nd place 3m. what a difference


how much does wings as an organization take as a cut from the prize money? 10-50%?
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
August 14 2016 03:54 GMT
#4283
Are prize pools taxed as income tax or capital gains? Since the 400k+ tax bracket is 39.6% and 8.95% in Washington, so that'd be almost 50% tax.

Either way, if I assume I'd get taxed the same way as earning a normal income (say 30%), that's 1.82mil each, that's assuming working a career of 45 years, is $40,044 a year, as long as you invest what you're not spending at the rate of inflation.

Realistically you'd get a bit more, and that's around a $50,000 salary for the rest of your life. If you're a gamer you can live off of that forever in Canada or the US, and back in China, a lot longer.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 14 2016 03:54 GMT
#4284
On August 14 2016 12:53 nVme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 12:52 Papercappu wrote:
1st place 9m 2nd place 3m. what a difference


how much does wings as an organization take as a cut from the prize money? 10-50%?


I imagine they have some kind of contractual agreement. Maybe it'll become public information, maybe not.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 14 2016 03:54 GMT
#4285
On August 14 2016 12:53 nVme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 12:52 Papercappu wrote:
1st place 9m 2nd place 3m. what a difference


how much does wings as an organization take as a cut from the prize money? 10-50%?

Not sure but isn't wings their own players organization?
WriterXiao8~~
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-14 03:56:32
August 14 2016 03:55 GMT
#4286
On August 14 2016 12:54 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Are prize pools taxed as income tax or capital gains? Since the 400k+ tax bracket is 39.6% and 8.95% in Washington, so that'd be almost 50% tax.

Either way, if I assume I'd get taxed the same way as earning a normal income (say 30%), that's 1.82mil each, that's assuming working a career of 45 years, is $40,044 a year, as long as you invest what you're not spending at the rate of inflation.

Realistically you'd get a bit more, and that's around a $50,000 salary for the rest of your life. If you're a gamer you can live off of that forever in Canada or the US, and back in China, a lot longer.


Should be taxed as ordinary wage income. You only pay 39.6% on all income over 400k, and the state income tax should be deductable. Not exactly sure how deductions work for foreigners though. Their effective rate will probably end up being around 40% or so for the states, but i'm just guessing here.
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
August 14 2016 03:55 GMT
#4287
So they spend more time talking about the second place than the champion
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
August 14 2016 03:55 GMT
#4288
ok charlie just any player can do this
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
August 14 2016 03:55 GMT
#4289
Good gaaaaaames
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 14 2016 03:55 GMT
#4290
lesson learned is to never expect anything out of dc if you want them to win
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
August 14 2016 03:55 GMT
#4291
They have a support system that's probably getting paid somewhere somehow.
Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
August 14 2016 03:56 GMT
#4292
Truly worthy champions. I am so happy.

Also, daily reminder that Navi and Jimmy Ho led tnc were the only teams to 2-0 them hehe.
[10:23pm] Gosi: I want to be famous and have many twitter followers and get blowjobs during tournements at the bathroom [10:23pm] Gosi: do i play mnid or support for thhat [10:23pm] Gosi: u tell me
datscilly
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States529 Posts
August 14 2016 03:56 GMT
#4293
On August 14 2016 12:53 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Wings gave a standard response to that interview question, I think it just didn't penetrate the adrenaline and language barrier that Redeye was asking for a "say a nice thing about the team you just beat" instead of a standard interview "what do you think went wrong for the other team"


Was this the question you're referring to?

zult1

The answer that the crowd booed was actually a translation error.

The actual answer to the question on DC was that he didn't feel like DC played up to their full potential after game 2, not that he thought DC didn't play as well. It may be a minor difference in translation but he intended it to be a very humble comment not a cocky one and was clearly surprised by the crowd reaction.
xenonn40
Profile Joined October 2011
United States282 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-14 03:57:18
August 14 2016 03:56 GMT
#4294
On August 14 2016 12:55 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 12:54 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Are prize pools taxed as income tax or capital gains? Since the 400k+ tax bracket is 39.6% and 8.95% in Washington, so that'd be almost 50% tax.

Either way, if I assume I'd get taxed the same way as earning a normal income (say 30%), that's 1.82mil each, that's assuming working a career of 45 years, is $40,044 a year, as long as you invest what you're not spending at the rate of inflation.

Realistically you'd get a bit more, and that's around a $50,000 salary for the rest of your life. If you're a gamer you can live off of that forever in Canada or the US, and back in China, a lot longer.


Should be taxed as ordinary wage income. You only pay 39.6% on all income over 400k, and the state income tax should be deductable. Not exactly sure how deductions work for foreigners though. Their effective rate will probably end up being around 40% or so for the states, but i'm just guessing here.


In the US, prize winnings are taxed at a much higher rate than normal income. I am not sure of the exact details.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 14 2016 03:57 GMT
#4295
On August 14 2016 12:54 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 12:53 nVme wrote:
On August 14 2016 12:52 Papercappu wrote:
1st place 9m 2nd place 3m. what a difference


how much does wings as an organization take as a cut from the prize money? 10-50%?

Not sure but isn't wings their own players organization?

They have at least a coach, I don't know more.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 14 2016 03:57 GMT
#4296
On August 14 2016 12:56 datscilly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 12:53 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Wings gave a standard response to that interview question, I think it just didn't penetrate the adrenaline and language barrier that Redeye was asking for a "say a nice thing about the team you just beat" instead of a standard interview "what do you think went wrong for the other team"


Was this the question you're referring to?

Show nested quote +
zult1

The answer that the crowd booed was actually a translation error.

The actual answer to the question on DC was that he didn't feel like DC played up to their full potential after game 2, not that he thought DC didn't play as well. It may be a minor difference in translation but he intended it to be a very humble comment not a cocky one and was clearly surprised by the crowd reaction.


I think so, yeah

It would have been classic if Wings had said "Moooooo" but alas
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
August 14 2016 03:57 GMT
#4297
On August 14 2016 12:51 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 12:45 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 14 2016 12:43 FiWiFaKi wrote:
For me the real question is whether Wings will get to next TI. I'm just not a fan of one trick ponies, I hope they keep their dominance.

i don't think they're cdec. i don't know if i'm convinced about them dominating but they lived up to their expectations and more. i don't think there was a more deserving winner than wings

every patch have their own team

is there even a meta this patch though?

even the op heroes got destroyed by wings and the supposed counters (naga/sd vs void, ww vs void) got beat by them too

this patch seemed to favour diversity and the ability to play a lot of shit. wings can do that.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
August 14 2016 03:57 GMT
#4298
On August 14 2016 12:55 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 12:54 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Are prize pools taxed as income tax or capital gains? Since the 400k+ tax bracket is 39.6% and 8.95% in Washington, so that'd be almost 50% tax.

Either way, if I assume I'd get taxed the same way as earning a normal income (say 30%), that's 1.82mil each, that's assuming working a career of 45 years, is $40,044 a year, as long as you invest what you're not spending at the rate of inflation.

Realistically you'd get a bit more, and that's around a $50,000 salary for the rest of your life. If you're a gamer you can live off of that forever in Canada or the US, and back in China, a lot longer.


Should be taxed as ordinary wage income. You only pay 39.6% on all income over 400k, and the state income tax should be deductable.


Well yeah, but since the money is paid directly to players, that's almost 2mil each, so I just treated the entire income as 39.6%, but you're right, but it would've been more math for a back of the envelope calculation.

And oh, okay, hmm, 40% is quite a lot still. I wonder how other countries treat it, I know almost all EU countries have higher tax brackets for the top, but in Canada for example, lottery winnings aren't taxed, so maybe there's similar type of stuff for competitions like this too.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
xenonn40
Profile Joined October 2011
United States282 Posts
August 14 2016 03:58 GMT
#4299
On August 14 2016 12:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 12:55 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 14 2016 12:54 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Are prize pools taxed as income tax or capital gains? Since the 400k+ tax bracket is 39.6% and 8.95% in Washington, so that'd be almost 50% tax.

Either way, if I assume I'd get taxed the same way as earning a normal income (say 30%), that's 1.82mil each, that's assuming working a career of 45 years, is $40,044 a year, as long as you invest what you're not spending at the rate of inflation.

Realistically you'd get a bit more, and that's around a $50,000 salary for the rest of your life. If you're a gamer you can live off of that forever in Canada or the US, and back in China, a lot longer.


Should be taxed as ordinary wage income. You only pay 39.6% on all income over 400k, and the state income tax should be deductable.


Well yeah, but since the money is paid directly to players, that's almost 2mil each, so I just treated the entire income as 39.6%, but you're right, but it would've been more math for a back of the envelope calculation.

And oh, okay, hmm, 40% is quite a lot still. I wonder how other countries treat it, I know almost all EU countries have higher tax brackets for the top, but in Canada for example, lottery winnings aren't taxed, so maybe there's similar type of stuff for competitions like this too.


Lottery winnings are taxed heavily in the US.
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
August 14 2016 03:58 GMT
#4300
On August 14 2016 12:54 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 12:53 nVme wrote:
On August 14 2016 12:52 Papercappu wrote:
1st place 9m 2nd place 3m. what a difference


how much does wings as an organization take as a cut from the prize money? 10-50%?

Not sure but isn't wings their own players organization?


i dont think so, i mean isnt this why people are "investing" in pro teams? i view it as people buying "shares" for a poker players buy in at WSOPs etc and for the other revenue sources
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