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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
July 25 2016 01:50 GMT
#381
On July 25 2016 10:49 sunrazgriz wrote:
puppey thinking to kicking envy

remember , kick envy win TI

Kicking Envy will result in Rtz leaving as well.

So yea that's like your fail-safe formula to win Valve's events.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 25 2016 01:51 GMT
#382
On July 25 2016 10:50 Xurr wrote:
Secret funneled to much farm into the Mirana and to little into the Drow.
Also, Etheral Blade is a gimmicky gank item, in a late game teamfight its just garbage.

In a late game teamfight it's still better than shivas, linkens or octarine.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
July 25 2016 01:52 GMT
#383
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 25 2016 01:53 GMT
#384
On July 25 2016 10:50 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 10:49 Rebs wrote:
On July 25 2016 10:47 Kreb wrote:
This was a lot more on the draft than on Bulba or anyone else.Honestly pushing uphill into ember/mag/chrono/curse with ench lobbing impetus from T4. Yea.... GL with that. They had to find pickoffs out on the map but they didnt have the heroes for it.


Well Arteezy played absolutely out of his mind. Overall they were ok. EE was the obvious weak link this game.

Yea rtz played crazy good. But didnt matter, Navi lineup would never concede highground unless massively behind or mistakes made.


He was kinda tilted though he got the double pickoff after the team fight and then proceeded to walk into 3 Na'vi heroes.

As for funneling farm. Aghs Mirana always gonna farm. Thats the only way to stop the split push from Na'vi so they can actually barrel down mid so thats more on Na'vi forcing it than anything Secret did wrong.
Daaktard
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden380 Posts
July 25 2016 01:53 GMT
#385
On July 25 2016 10:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 10:50 Xurr wrote:
Secret funneled to much farm into the Mirana and to little into the Drow.
Also, Etheral Blade is a gimmicky gank item, in a late game teamfight its just garbage.

In a late game teamfight it's still better than shivas, linkens or octarine.


I still can't get over that octarine...
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 25 2016 01:54 GMT
#386
who is the guy with the really silent voice?
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sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
July 25 2016 01:54 GMT
#387
On July 25 2016 10:53 Daaktard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 10:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 25 2016 10:50 Xurr wrote:
Secret funneled to much farm into the Mirana and to little into the Drow.
Also, Etheral Blade is a gimmicky gank item, in a late game teamfight its just garbage.

In a late game teamfight it's still better than shivas, linkens or octarine.


I still can't get over that octarine...

sufail mirana best mirana
6nnn
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
July 25 2016 01:55 GMT
#388
On July 25 2016 10:54 stuchiu wrote:
who is the guy with the really silent voice?

KoreanBBQ, who is strangely a Chinese translator of all things.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 25 2016 01:55 GMT
#389
On July 25 2016 10:54 stuchiu wrote:
who is the guy with the really silent voice?


KoreanBBQ.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
July 25 2016 01:55 GMT
#390
Giving potm aegis every time was a mistake. Needed drow to siege high ground
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Xurr
Profile Joined April 2016
Germany313 Posts
July 25 2016 01:55 GMT
#391
On July 25 2016 10:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 10:50 Xurr wrote:
Secret funneled to much farm into the Mirana and to little into the Drow.
Also, Etheral Blade is a gimmicky gank item, in a late game teamfight its just garbage.

In a late game teamfight it's still better than shivas, linkens or octarine.

Exactly, its the hero that has no place lategame, the drow is not very good late, but can at least do something late, the Mirana is a Lightshow and nothing else in any lategame fight. Therefore, give the Drow more farm in this draft or not draft Drow and Mirana in the first place.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 25 2016 01:56 GMT
#392
On July 25 2016 10:55 Xurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 10:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 25 2016 10:50 Xurr wrote:
Secret funneled to much farm into the Mirana and to little into the Drow.
Also, Etheral Blade is a gimmicky gank item, in a late game teamfight its just garbage.

In a late game teamfight it's still better than shivas, linkens or octarine.

Exactly, its the hero that has no place lategame, the drow is not very good late, but can at least do something late, the Mirana is a Lightshow and nothing else in any lategame fight. Therefore, give the Drow more farm in this draft or not draft Drow and Mirana in the first place.

This game was done the moment Bulba failed to press R in the first siege, and kudos to Navi for achieving that.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 25 2016 01:57 GMT
#393
On July 25 2016 10:55 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 10:54 stuchiu wrote:
who is the guy with the really silent voice?


KoreanBBQ.


I respect this ID.
Moderator
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 01:58:24
July 25 2016 01:57 GMT
#394
If you go for the Mirana aghs build, it should be Aghs - Eblade - Dagon 5 IMO, and whatever extra crap you think you might use (you should have only 1-2 items slots depending on bkb, bots are a must) like Octarine and Linkens/Shivas

At some point that build will be pretty meh and the dagon 5 let you do more damage, still not the best, but at leat you arent worthless
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
July 25 2016 01:58 GMT
#395
On July 25 2016 10:55 Kraznaya wrote:
Giving potm aegis every time was a mistake. Needed drow to siege high ground


Then she just gets brought into base and can die twice.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
July 25 2016 01:58 GMT
#396
On July 25 2016 10:55 Kraznaya wrote:
Giving potm aegis every time was a mistake. Needed drow to siege high ground

RTZ was going to full right clicking hero with butterfly though , his mirana is good but not with the ravage and drow
6nnn
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 25 2016 02:00 GMT
#397
Secret has to win this series
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 25 2016 02:02 GMT
#398
On July 25 2016 11:00 plasmidghost wrote:
Secret has to win this series


why?
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 25 2016 02:02 GMT
#399
On July 25 2016 11:00 plasmidghost wrote:
Secret has to win this series

in order for what?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 02:03:13
July 25 2016 02:02 GMT
#400
On July 25 2016 11:02 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 11:00 plasmidghost wrote:
Secret has to win this series


why?

Let's be real, if Secret don't win this, they probably finish below top 8 at TI6 with mental meltdown similar to that of C9 and Secret at TI5.

If they do, they may have a shot at top6.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
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