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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:21:38
May 09 2016 18:20 GMT
#801
On May 10 2016 03:18 GumBa wrote:
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On May 10 2016 03:18 Azarkon wrote:
Newbee against the six best Western teams and one Russian team, going to be fun.

Who will win this epic clash. A-god or China.


I won't consider it a victory for the West to win this tournament, since the West has six teams. I will consider it a victory for the West, however, for Newbee to finish less than third.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
May 09 2016 18:22 GMT
#802
On May 10 2016 03:18 Azarkon wrote:
Newbee against the six best Western teams and one Russian team, going to be fun.

>six best
Too much is too much.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 09 2016 18:22 GMT
#803
Rip synderens dreams
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
May 09 2016 18:23 GMT
#804
Most of West have rested on their laurels recently. I see this as a warmup tournament for most teams.
LiangHao
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
May 09 2016 18:23 GMT
#805
On May 10 2016 03:16 GumBa wrote:
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On May 10 2016 03:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
cubmack

j/k, prolonged death animation.

You seem to dislike ND and qojqva in particular. Any reason?

Can't cheer for synderen after all.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 09 2016 18:24 GMT
#806
On May 10 2016 03:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 03:16 GumBa wrote:
On May 10 2016 03:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
cubmack

j/k, prolonged death animation.

You seem to dislike ND and qojqva in particular. Any reason?

Can't cheer for synderen after all.

Why not? He seems like an alright guy.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 09 2016 18:24 GMT
#807
On May 10 2016 03:16 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 03:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
cubmack

j/k, prolonged death animation.

You seem to dislike ND and qojqva in particular. Any reason?

I think he was the guy who said fnatic would Steam roll esl Manila, and Midone is so much better then the other mids. Just a hater.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 09 2016 18:24 GMT
#808
Wonder if they could get diggity on the panel for the main event.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:28:51
May 09 2016 18:25 GMT
#809
On May 10 2016 03:23 Dracolich70 wrote:
Most of West have rested on their laurels recently. I see this as a warmup tournament for most teams.


They'll have two weeks from the end of this tournament to Manila, and with travel, etc., it's going to be a week of practice, so this is the best look at where teams are at. Teams won't show every strategy this tournament, but they will show their skill.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 09 2016 18:25 GMT
#810
On May 10 2016 03:24 GumBa wrote:
Wonder if they could get diggity on the panel for the main event.

Well synderen has time now;)
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 09 2016 18:28 GMT
#811
On May 10 2016 03:24 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 03:16 GumBa wrote:
On May 10 2016 03:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
cubmack

j/k, prolonged death animation.

You seem to dislike ND and qojqva in particular. Any reason?

I think he was the guy who said fnatic would Steam roll esl Manila, and Midone is so much better then the other mids. Just a hater.


There's no doubting that midone is up there with all the top mids though.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
May 09 2016 18:29 GMT
#812
On May 10 2016 03:25 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 03:23 Dracolich70 wrote:
Most of West have rested on their laurels recently. I see this as a warmup tournament for most teams.


They'll have two weeks from the end of this tournament to Manila, and with travel, etc., it's going to be a week of practice, so this is the best look at where teams are at. Teams won't show every strategy this tournament, but they will show their skill and decision making.
yeah, they will not show their best strategies, that is if they even know them by now. I think it is safe to say that most of them will be very sub-par. EG and Secret showed they were pretty far off any top form,and I doubt OG are looking any good. This will probably be very experimental, and getting off some rust, and getting execution and team play tuned.
LiangHao
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 09 2016 18:30 GMT
#813
On May 10 2016 03:15 Dracolich70 wrote:
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On May 10 2016 03:13 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
I certainly wouldn't have decribed qojqva as a decent dota player.
In most peoples books he is.

He was always amazing at farming.

And completely mediocre with item choices and decision making. Of course, I haven't seen many of No Diggity's games, so maybe he's gotten better.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
May 09 2016 18:35 GMT
#814
On May 10 2016 03:30 WolfintheSheep wrote:
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On May 10 2016 03:15 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 10 2016 03:13 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
I certainly wouldn't have decribed qojqva as a decent dota player.
In most peoples books he is.

He was always amazing at farming.

And completely mediocre with item choices and decision making. Of course, I haven't seen many of No Diggity's games, so maybe he's gotten better.
He carried TL, Tinker and Mouz, and is considered to be one of the best young players. I wouldn't say farming is his focal point. Rather mechanical skills. Needless to say he has been away for awhile, and therefore needs to more competitive play like some of his team mates.
LiangHao
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:38:56
May 09 2016 18:36 GMT
#815
He *anchored* those teams lol
he's a talented player but he doesn't play a winning style and icefrog is moving dota away from his style in any case.

qojqva's always been the kind of player who loses with 100 more lasthits than the enemy carry and 0-1 deaths.

People who think he was good are people like nahaz who have no fundamental grasp of dota and believe that the only thing that matters is your gpm figure on the score screen
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Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
May 09 2016 18:39 GMT
#816
On May 10 2016 03:35 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 03:30 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 10 2016 03:15 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 10 2016 03:13 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
I certainly wouldn't have decribed qojqva as a decent dota player.
In most peoples books he is.

He was always amazing at farming.

And completely mediocre with item choices and decision making. Of course, I haven't seen many of No Diggity's games, so maybe he's gotten better.
He carried TL, Tinker and Mouz, and is considered to be one of the best young players. I wouldn't say farming is his focal point. Rather mechanical skills. Needless to say he has been away for awhile, and therefore needs to more competitive play like some of his team mates.


"Carried" is stretching a bit. He always choked after soaking up the farm around the map with his extremely passive play style. People tend to look at players who took a break / went away from the scene with rose tinted glasses, but forget that they took the break for a reason - they were horribly underperforming. Qojqva was great during/before TI3 days, but he has been consistently mediocre/sub par afterwards, aside from Liquid's respectable TI4 performance.
Envy fan since NTH.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:57:17
May 09 2016 18:41 GMT
#817
On May 10 2016 03:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
He *anchored* those teams lol
he's a talented player but he doesn't play a winning style and icefrog is moving dota away from his style in any case.

qojqva's always been the kind of player who loses with 100 more lasthits than the enemy carry and 0-1 deaths.

People who think he was good are people like nahaz who have no fundamental grasp of dota and believe that the only thing that matters is your gpm figure on the score screen
A lot of pro players have huge respect for Qojqva's skills.

"but he doesn't play a winning style and icefrog is moving dota away from his style in any case. ". What does this even mean, exactly?
LiangHao
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 09 2016 18:47 GMT
#818
On May 10 2016 03:41 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 03:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
He *anchored* those teams lol
he's a talented player but he doesn't play a winning style and icefrog is moving dota away from his style in any case.

qojqva's always been the kind of player who loses with 100 more lasthits than the enemy carry and 0-1 deaths.

People who think he was good are people like nahaz who have no fundamental grasp of dota and believe that the only thing that matters is your gpm figure on the score screen
A lot of pro players have huge respect for Qojqva's skills.

I've heard praise of his strong mechanics from his teammates a year or more ago.

IDK how much that means.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:48:19
May 09 2016 18:47 GMT
#819
On May 10 2016 03:24 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 03:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On May 10 2016 03:16 GumBa wrote:
On May 10 2016 03:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
cubmack

j/k, prolonged death animation.

You seem to dislike ND and qojqva in particular. Any reason?

Can't cheer for synderen after all.

Why not? He seems like an alright guy.

Yeah, he is great as a person, honestly. Always enjoyed his casting

but his pro player career ended with mtw. He tilts easily as a captain and doesn't show much skills nowadays.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:52:04
May 09 2016 18:49 GMT
#820
On May 10 2016 03:24 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 03:16 GumBa wrote:
On May 10 2016 03:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
cubmack

j/k, prolonged death animation.

You seem to dislike ND and qojqva in particular. Any reason?

I think he was the guy who said fnatic would Steam roll esl Manila, and Midone is so much better then the other mids. Just a hater.

Fnatic narrowly lost to the Wings. That series were a real finals in a hindsight.

MidOne was hands down the best player at the tournament. His Invoker and Pugna were terrifying, so it's not like I was terribly wrong in my predictions.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
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