EPTOn April 24 2016 23:08 stuchiu wrote:
Didn't China get 2-5 at TI? How is that terrible?
Didn't China get 2-5 at TI? How is that terrible?
It's Azarkon. you know.
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ForTehDarkseid
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It's Azarkon. you know. | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
On April 24 2016 23:07 Gevna wrote: Ruberband never mattered in any of those games, beside Liquid getting huge bounties from behind and still losing hard, because thats what happen when you are bad and when you're just way too far behind. actually, funnily enough. liquid when they had control of the game and would at first glance seem to be ahead were actually behind in networth. alchemist effect. i'm really curious in networth changes in that game now because at some point i think it was 28-15 for liquid and they were behind ~8kgold. | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
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On April 24 2016 23:08 uriel- wrote: I mean I wasn't serious there but do what you want lol I really appreciate that, thanks. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 24 2016 23:08 stuchiu wrote: Didn't China get 2-5 at TI? How is that terrible? You realize they went to 12 tournaments, including 2015's international, and didn't win a single one of them? I'd call that a fail regardless of whether you get 2 to 5 in the international. | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
On April 24 2016 23:09 malcram wrote: is there a mute option for posters i don't want to read in this forums? there is are plug-ins to text replace azarkon. but the sideshow always goes on. At least in LRs. i (and a couple otehr mods) find the side show hilarious. | ||
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
On April 24 2016 23:11 Azarkon wrote: You realize they went to 12 tournaments, including 2015's international, and didn't win a single one of them? I'd call that a fail regardless of whether you get 2 to 5 in the international. day 2 gonna be western day, LELZ | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 24 2016 23:09 nojok wrote: Win TI or disband. It's prodota's 4th commandement. Didn't EG win TI and disband? | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On April 24 2016 23:11 Azarkon wrote: You realize they went to 12 tournaments, including 2015's international, and didn't win a single one of them? I'd call that a fail regardless of whether you get 2 to 5 in the international. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....LMOA | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
Chinese team wins with fresh picks = They just found a loophole in the meta Chinese team wins with old picks = Oh look they can't innovate Unknown Chinese team wins = They won because no one studied them Known Chinese team wins = China has no new blood And as always, don't forget to mention that the Western teams just obviously weren't trying that hard and will stomp at the next major/TI. | ||
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On April 24 2016 23:11 TanGeng wrote: there is are plug-ins to text replace azarkon. but the sideshow always goes on. At least in LRs. i (and a couple otehr mods) find the side show hilarious. its really entertaining! | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 24 2016 23:11 Azarkon wrote: You realize they went to 12 tournaments, including 2015's international, and didn't win a single one of them? I'd call that a fail regardless of whether you get 2 to 5 in the international. soO didn't win a tournament for the year. During that year I thought he was the 2nd best player in the world. Sometimes the first. | ||
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wims80
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On April 24 2016 23:09 malcram wrote: is there a mute option for posters i don't want to read in this forums? no | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
On April 24 2016 23:08 stuchiu wrote: Didn't China get 2-5 at TI? How is that terrible? no one truly believe they are terrible. as evident today, a tier 2 team out of china just came and rekt. China has being histrionically the best region in dota and for good reasons. The recent decline is due to the old burdens not letting shit go but plenty of talented tier 2 will fill the void. anyway, west is still stronger, look at europe's qualifier list and tell me if you don't think so, more tournaments, more professional teams, more players. It would be strange if China still dominates, it doesn't mean China is in shit tier, they will always be competitive, but they never ruled the scene la korean style and never will. | ||
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uriel-
Singapore1867 Posts
On April 24 2016 23:09 Andre wrote: actually, funnily enough. liquid when they had control of the game and would at first glance seem to be ahead were actually behind in networth. alchemist effect. i'm really curious in networth changes in that game now because at some point i think it was 28-15 for liquid and they were behind ~8kgold. Alc is one thing, the other thing is that they kept getting kills off the Bounty who basically was so underleveled that he gave away close to nothing. On the other hand Wings played the map (with the Bounty scouting out) such that Spec could never farm comfortably at all, getting picked off a few times. The kill score was not at all representative of the situation. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On April 24 2016 23:07 Gevna wrote: Ruberband never mattered in any of those games, beside Liquid getting huge bounties from behind and still losing hard, because thats what happen when you are bad and when you're just way too far behind. Your ability to analyze Dota is in major question. Wings' "wrinkle" to their approach around the timings takes advantage of those Rubberband mechanics. In the points where they were even or behind, they'd seek out ganks. That was the entire point of running Invis Heroes almost every game. They played the vision game really well and had a great day. Doesn't change the fact they looked pretty terrible the first two days and they figured out the right timings for the current state of the Meta. They managed to chain together the right games to win it all. Which, at the end, is what you're out to do. Though that's still no excuse to draft Necrophos. | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
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EG is the only top Western team left. Nothing has changed since 2013. | ||
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ShootAnonymous
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 24 2016 23:11 Loanshark wrote: Look guys let me explain the Azarkon narrative Chinese team wins with fresh picks = They just found a loophole in the meta Chinese team wins with old picks = Oh look they can't innovate Unknown Chinese team wins = They won because no one studied them Known Chinese team wins = China has no new blood And as always, don't forget to mention that the Western teams just obviously weren't trying that hard and will stomp at the next major/TI. Not at all, but it's funny how every one on the forum believed "China is bad" until suddenly they win two tournaments with completely new teams and it becomes "China has always been the best." Forget the last year much? | ||
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