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[ESL One] Manila 2016 - Finals Day! - Page 74

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Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
April 24 2016 14:07 GMT
#1461
On April 24 2016 23:02 Azarkon wrote:
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On April 24 2016 23:01 Racket wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:01 Azarkon wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:00 Racket wrote:
On April 24 2016 22:58 Azarkon wrote:
Many teams win because they were the first team to figure out the strategy for a tournament. Koreans did it, Miracle's team did it, VGR did it, and now another team has done it. It is what it is.

Thing is we are at the end of a patch, not every case you mentioned fits the given context.


Game develops regardless of whether there are changes.

Yep, but what you say is a bad generalization.


It isn't. The teams that win are usually those who find out what to do in a tournament, not the teams that just play the best with the same heroes.

as much shit as u say, this is true for the majority of tournaments in dota2. old dk&alliance being exceptions, maybe someone else as well.

that didnt rly happen with wings tho
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
April 24 2016 14:07 GMT
#1462
On April 24 2016 23:04 Taf the Ghost wrote:
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On April 24 2016 22:59 Gevna wrote:
Wings destroyed all the bullshit in Ver's article. That feels good.


No, they actually pretty much provided proof to most of it. They just drafted to run down the other team, so they couldn't disengage cleanly.

Ruberband never mattered in any of those games, beside Liquid getting huge bounties from behind and still losing hard, because thats what happen when you are bad and when you're just way too far behind.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
April 24 2016 14:07 GMT
#1463
MANILA MAJOR GONNA BE CRAAAAZY
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 14:07:55
April 24 2016 14:07 GMT
#1464
western teams are still better
even wings gaming is western name, it is single fact which proves western intelligence creativity ingenuity and doto are >>>>> eastern's
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
April 24 2016 14:07 GMT
#1465
lmao merlini
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
April 24 2016 14:07 GMT
#1466
the crowd is pretty nice as well, you can see they cheer so hard for liquid in game 1 and then half game of game2 you starting to hear alot of cheers for wings as well. is a good day in manila
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
April 24 2016 14:07 GMT
#1467
On April 24 2016 23:05 turpentine wrote:
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On April 24 2016 23:02 Azarkon wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:01 Racket wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:01 Azarkon wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:00 Racket wrote:
On April 24 2016 22:58 Azarkon wrote:
Many teams win because they were the first team to figure out the strategy for a tournament. Koreans did it, Miracle's team did it, VGR did it, and now another team has done it. It is what it is.

Thing is we are at the end of a patch, not every case you mentioned fits the given context.


Game develops regardless of whether there are changes.

Yep, but what you say is a bad generalization.


It isn't. The teams that win are usually those who find out what to do in a tournament, not the teams that just play the best with the same heroes.


And? What's your point? Given that, as you just said, this applies to most teams, how does this take away from wings' win?


It doesn't, he literally has nothing bad to say because the Top Western Team got dumpstered so hard even he can't spin it any other way

When this happens he says oh well they won because they did these things right, nothing special. Top Western Teams will win the next 20 tournaments still.

Of course when the Chinese team loses Chinese players are lazy, unskilled, devoid of talent and trapped in a whirlpool of despair that is the Chinese professional Dota scene, you know the drill.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66286 Posts
April 24 2016 14:08 GMT
#1468
also shoutout to that crowd and the mc

made the whole experience complete and so much fun
POGGERS
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
April 24 2016 14:08 GMT
#1469
How do you counter the rubberband?
Get bounty and Alch and farm / trade more effectively due to track and greed!
passive quaranstream fan
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 24 2016 14:08 GMT
#1470
Didn't China get 2-5 at TI? How is that terrible?
Moderator
Gear 3rd
Profile Joined July 2011
1244 Posts
April 24 2016 14:08 GMT
#1471
I cant deny that im really sad for Liquid... They need a boost of confidence otherwise it will become a downward spiral and i am concerned for that :/
BUT huge props for wings i mean everyone here said it already. really well deserved, reminded me of OG at Frankfurt
I am excited for the next Major
EXTERMINATE!
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
April 24 2016 14:08 GMT
#1472
On April 24 2016 23:06 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 23:04 Racket wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:02 Azarkon wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:01 Racket wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:01 Azarkon wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:00 Racket wrote:
On April 24 2016 22:58 Azarkon wrote:
Many teams win because they were the first team to figure out the strategy for a tournament. Koreans did it, Miracle's team did it, VGR did it, and now another team has done it. It is what it is.

Thing is we are at the end of a patch, not every case you mentioned fits the given context.


Game develops regardless of whether there are changes.

Yep, but what you say is a bad generalization.


It isn't. The teams that win are usually those who find out what to do in a tournament, not the teams that just play the best with the same heroes.

Man, you generalize when you say China is bad and you get picky when a chinese team rocks a tournament. Get your opinions right. That is why you get called out so bad this time.


China was bad, and the old Chinese teams/players are terrible. In any case, what do you want me to say, this team is the best team in the world? Come the fuck on even you don't believe that.

Nahh, you are so funny the way you are, stay classy.
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
April 24 2016 14:08 GMT
#1473
On April 24 2016 23:05 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
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On April 24 2016 23:01 uriel- wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:00 Andre wrote:
On April 24 2016 22:58 Azarkon wrote:
Many teams win because they were the first team to find out the strategy for a tournament. Koreans did it, Miracle's team did it, VGR did it, and now another team has done it. It is what it is.

what's the strategy? if you look at their games it was quite varied, nothing that would really persist throughout the games. some abuse of the rubberband though.


I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams

May I put your quote to my signature. good sir?


I mean I wasn't serious there but do what you want lol
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 24 2016 14:08 GMT
#1474
On April 24 2016 23:05 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 23:04 Azarkon wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:03 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:00 Azarkon wrote:
Well, the problem with a win in the last two tournaments, is that suddenly the West is going to wake the fuck up and watch and study your every game. The big Manila is still the West's to take, but we'll see how well Newbee and such do.

lmao.

what about West lacking talents and proper management?


West is in no way in lack of either; these two weeks are the first time China has done well in A YEAR.

lets just not remember ehome trashing eg


and let's just forget chinese teams getting 4 out of top 5 places at TI not even an year before.
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
April 24 2016 14:09 GMT
#1475
damn i can't wait for the major
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
April 24 2016 14:09 GMT
#1476
is there a mute option for posters i don't want to read in this forums?
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 24 2016 14:09 GMT
#1477
On April 24 2016 23:06 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 23:04 Racket wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:02 Azarkon wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:01 Racket wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:01 Azarkon wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:00 Racket wrote:
On April 24 2016 22:58 Azarkon wrote:
Many teams win because they were the first team to figure out the strategy for a tournament. Koreans did it, Miracle's team did it, VGR did it, and now another team has done it. It is what it is.

Thing is we are at the end of a patch, not every case you mentioned fits the given context.


Game develops regardless of whether there are changes.

Yep, but what you say is a bad generalization.


It isn't. The teams that win are usually those who find out what to do in a tournament, not the teams that just play the best with the same heroes.

Man, you generalize when you say China is bad and you get picky when a chinese team rocks a tournament. Get your opinions right. That is why you get called out so bad this time.


China was bad, and the old Chinese teams/players are terrible. In any case, what do you want me to say, this team is the best team in the world? Come the fuck on even you don't believe that.

western team LELZ
-Terran-
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 24 2016 14:09 GMT
#1478
On April 24 2016 23:08 stuchiu wrote:
Didn't China get 2-5 at TI? How is that terrible?


for him, everything china loses is gospel and when china wins is terrible
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 24 2016 14:09 GMT
#1479
On April 24 2016 23:08 stuchiu wrote:
Didn't China get 2-5 at TI? How is that terrible?

Win TI or disband. It's prodota's 4th commandement.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
April 24 2016 14:09 GMT
#1480
that was a great tournament!!!1


\I'm just depressed about Liquid

Fnatic put up a great fight though.
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