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Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 23 2016 17:06 GMT
#1781
pausu osashiburi desu
-Terran-
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
April 23 2016 17:06 GMT
#1782
SO now that's there down time, w33 or Arteezy? Who match well with Secret?
Getting too old for this..
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 23 2016 17:06 GMT
#1783
On April 24 2016 02:05 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Ramzes lost his keyboard during Shanghai , but found his form during manila

After a team switch xd
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Azimuth
Profile Joined April 2015
231 Posts
April 23 2016 17:06 GMT
#1784
"Secret is tired"

Tobi setting up a story in case Secret loses
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
April 23 2016 17:07 GMT
#1785
Secret was resting....
Secret is old...
Secret is new...


Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
April 23 2016 17:07 GMT
#1786
On April 24 2016 02:06 Azimuth wrote:
"Secret is tired"

Tobi setting up a story in case Secret loses


no more parties in Istanbul
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 23 2016 17:07 GMT
#1787
Slark 4/0/2
Naix 4/0/5

war of carries
-Terran-
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
April 23 2016 17:08 GMT
#1788
On April 24 2016 02:05 l3loodraven wrote:
empire is one aggressively unattractive team

Wat?
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 23 2016 17:08 GMT
#1789
On April 24 2016 02:06 Azimuth wrote:
"Secret is tired"

Tobi setting up a story in case Secret loses


I just read somewhere that they don't care about this tournament
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
April 23 2016 17:09 GMT
#1790
That is a very poor furion
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
April 23 2016 17:09 GMT
#1791
On April 24 2016 02:07 Vertical wrote:
Slark 4/0/2
Naix 4/0/5

war of carries

slark 5k ahead in networth.not rly
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 17:10 GMT
#1792
On April 24 2016 02:05 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:02 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:00 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:56 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

So you think if nyx did no damage, he would get OD to no mana (and full hp) which makes OD... go back to his tower and not do anything? the burn doesn't matter before level 4 and at level 4 how does it stop him from last hitting

Go calculate the mana pool of OD and the damage done to him with mana burn. OD can't even stay in lane once nyx hits 5. I played this matchup countless of times. Too lazy to continue this discussion

yeah but OD just lets him get mana burns off and stays at max HP because of wisp, and then he just keeps last hitting

Yea then? They have a useless mid hero that only right clicks for 90 damage, last hit 4 creeps per 30sec, can't join teamfight. Nyx can just rotate off and do shit elsewhere. Maxing mana burn doesn't mean you can't gank. You only have say less 150 dmg per full combo. You actually deal more damage if you are ganking a int hero.

No, a nyx at level 7 with lv 4 mana burn doesn't rotate off and do other things. You're in a world of level 9-10 which isn't where we started with this. He does other things by leveling stun and doing what he did this game, which is rotate off at level 7 with stun.

What teamfight is happening at laning stage that OD needs to join if nyx is sitting mid with level 4 mana burn at level 7? He's going to sit there at full hp no mana last hitting like nothing is happening, then at level 9-10 Empire hasn't done anything and lost because their entire lineup needs nyx to get vision for NP so they can do things against Beastmaster's Hawk
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 23 2016 17:11 GMT
#1793
Envy spends 30 minutes walking around doing nothing while his team burns around him.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
April 23 2016 17:11 GMT
#1794
Envy, its cute that you are running around in creeps

But you should farm
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 23 2016 17:11 GMT
#1795
On April 24 2016 02:05 l3loodraven wrote:
empire is one aggressively unattractive team

Why? They've been entertatining this far.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 17:12 GMT
#1796
is EE worthless yet
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 17:13:07
April 23 2016 17:12 GMT
#1797
Lifestealer pick feels useless
The Real Power~
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 23 2016 17:12 GMT
#1798
Secret just have not farmed well enough this game.
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
April 23 2016 17:13 GMT
#1799
This Slark is so fat. It's gonna be hard for Secret fighting him.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
April 23 2016 17:13 GMT
#1800
i wonder who wants that lifestealer pick. its pretty bad
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