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[ESL One] Manila 2016 - Day 2 - Page 91

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Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
April 23 2016 17:13 GMT
#1801
On April 24 2016 02:11 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:05 l3loodraven wrote:
empire is one aggressively unattractive team

Why? They've been entertatining this far.

Pretty sure he means physically unattractive.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 23 2016 17:14 GMT
#1802
Where the heck do universe find his style or place in this team? The flashy universe seemed to be died with him leaving eg
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 23 2016 17:15 GMT
#1803
they should not make impetus pierces anti magic
-Terran-
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 23 2016 17:16 GMT
#1804
On April 24 2016 02:13 Papercappu wrote:
i wonder who wants that lifestealer pick. its pretty bad


They wanted to dump on the Enchantress in the early game and it worked out, they just didn't pressure the Slark enough/at all after that disaster double kill bot.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 23 2016 17:17 GMT
#1805
Hate that baby lifestealer which keeps giving himself birth from the stomach of ancient while killing his birthgiver
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Lancehead
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada123 Posts
April 23 2016 17:17 GMT
#1806
How is this draft supposed to work...?
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 17:17:57
April 23 2016 17:17 GMT
#1807
"Arteezy is insanely big"

He has one item Tobi, and it's a BKB, the other is a blink dagger
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 17:17 GMT
#1808
it's easy to think the naix is worthless but this winter wyvern is just sitting in his base wondering what he can even do in this match
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 17:17 GMT
#1809
Wait what?
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 23 2016 17:18 GMT
#1810
On April 24 2016 02:10 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:05 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:02 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:00 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:56 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

So you think if nyx did no damage, he would get OD to no mana (and full hp) which makes OD... go back to his tower and not do anything? the burn doesn't matter before level 4 and at level 4 how does it stop him from last hitting

Go calculate the mana pool of OD and the damage done to him with mana burn. OD can't even stay in lane once nyx hits 5. I played this matchup countless of times. Too lazy to continue this discussion

yeah but OD just lets him get mana burns off and stays at max HP because of wisp, and then he just keeps last hitting

Yea then? They have a useless mid hero that only right clicks for 90 damage, last hit 4 creeps per 30sec, can't join teamfight. Nyx can just rotate off and do shit elsewhere. Maxing mana burn doesn't mean you can't gank. You only have say less 150 dmg per full combo. You actually deal more damage if you are ganking a int hero.

No, a nyx at level 7 with lv 4 mana burn doesn't rotate off and do other things. You're in a world of level 9-10 which isn't where we started with this. He does other things by leveling stun and doing what he did this game, which is rotate off at level 7 with stun.

What teamfight is happening at laning stage that OD needs to join if nyx is sitting mid with level 4 mana burn at level 7? He's going to sit there at full hp no mana last hitting like nothing is happening, then at level 9-10 Empire hasn't done anything and lost because their entire lineup needs nyx to get vision for NP so they can do things against Beastmaster's Hawk

Tell me why I can't gank at lvl 7 when i can get 2 casts of mana burn off when killing someone. Tell me why I can't rotate away once I burn off OD's mana completely. And you seem to have an impression that OD is a hero that has impact by just hitting creeps. He is not even invoker where he can easily push an empty mid lane.

And you don't need to rotate if you are really shutting down their pos1 hard enough. This game obviously is different since he went a different skill build, can't win lane and is forced to rotate off like it or not.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
April 23 2016 17:19 GMT
#1811
On April 24 2016 02:14 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Where the heck do universe find his style or place in this team? The flashy universe seemed to be died with him leaving eg

He's playing the same as in EG, it's just that NP and BM are not his best heroes. He did fine playing Tide and ES this series. I'm more concerned about rtz, he should be playing traditional mid but it's obvious he's only comfortable on farming mid like Invoker and OD.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 23 2016 17:19 GMT
#1812
On April 24 2016 02:17 lolnoty wrote:
it's easy to think the naix is worthless but this winter wyvern is just sitting in his base wondering what he can even do in this match


They even picked him 2nd after thg saw np and thought this is pusb strat from.empire
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34170 Posts
April 23 2016 17:20 GMT
#1813
what does naix does late game ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 23 2016 17:20 GMT
#1814
NP suddenly jumps into second net worth
-Terran-
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 17:20 GMT
#1815
On April 24 2016 02:20 Faruko wrote:
what does naix does late game ?


gets kited to death
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
April 23 2016 17:20 GMT
#1816
well let's see if slark can kill them all
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
April 23 2016 17:21 GMT
#1817
On April 24 2016 02:20 ShroudeD wrote:
well let's see if slark can kill them all

sproink
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
April 23 2016 17:22 GMT
#1818
yeah slark is just distraction while ench right click sproink
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 23 2016 17:23 GMT
#1819
slick saves by both teams
-Terran-
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 23 2016 17:23 GMT
#1820
Winter's Curse has saved Empire's heroes like 2-3 times this game
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