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[ESL One] Manila 2016 - Day 2 - Page 89

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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
April 23 2016 16:58 GMT
#1761
it is going to be hard to control slark
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 16:59 GMT
#1762
On April 24 2016 01:56 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:55 nojok wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

Problem is OD shits on nyx in lane.

Yea you loses lane when you have only 1 lvl in mana burn. That's what I am driving across right

explain how you think level 4 mana burn would make OD not last hit with wisp there (having low mana literally doesn't matter for last hitting) and how that is worth having a nyx that does nothing until level 9-10
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 23 2016 17:00 GMT
#1763
On April 24 2016 01:56 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

So you think if nyx did no damage, he would get OD to no mana (and full hp) which makes OD... go back to his tower and not do anything? the burn doesn't matter before level 4 and at level 4 how does it stop him from last hitting

Go calculate the mana pool of OD and the damage done to him with mana burn. OD can't even stay in lane once nyx hits 5. I played this matchup countless of times. Too lazy to continue this discussion
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
April 23 2016 17:00 GMT
#1764
LOL Arteezy, that was unfortunate blink.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
April 23 2016 17:01 GMT
#1765
KingR MVP support of this tournament!
Getting too old for this..
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
April 23 2016 17:01 GMT
#1766
what a bait
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 17:01 GMT
#1767
Damn what a fucking disaster
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
April 23 2016 17:02 GMT
#1768
rtz why did you go blink m8
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 17:02 GMT
#1769
On April 24 2016 02:00 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:56 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

So you think if nyx did no damage, he would get OD to no mana (and full hp) which makes OD... go back to his tower and not do anything? the burn doesn't matter before level 4 and at level 4 how does it stop him from last hitting

Go calculate the mana pool of OD and the damage done to him with mana burn. OD can't even stay in lane once nyx hits 5. I played this matchup countless of times. Too lazy to continue this discussion

yeah but OD just lets him get mana burns off and stays at max HP because of wisp, and then he just keeps last hitting
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 23 2016 17:02 GMT
#1770
OD isn't farming enough while N'aix dicks around in Ancient Creeps
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 23 2016 17:02 GMT
#1771
What the hell, both of ya.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
April 23 2016 17:02 GMT
#1772
scandal , what a play
6nnn
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
April 23 2016 17:03 GMT
#1773
KingR MVP of the series so far
The Real Power~
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
April 23 2016 17:03 GMT
#1774
Let's go Empire! Go KingR! Show them the power of the thunderdome. :D
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 23 2016 17:03 GMT
#1775
Down time for roster changes, kick aui take back RTZ next week?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 23 2016 17:03 GMT
#1776
Scandal going beast mode while.secret shows signs of a greater choke
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 23 2016 17:05 GMT
#1777
Ramzes lost his keyboard during Shanghai , but found his form during manila
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
April 23 2016 17:05 GMT
#1778
On April 24 2016 02:03 nojok wrote:
Down time for roster changes, kick aui take back RTZ next week?

yeah , NA qualifier is not that hard
6nnn
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 23 2016 17:05 GMT
#1779
On April 24 2016 02:02 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:00 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:56 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

So you think if nyx did no damage, he would get OD to no mana (and full hp) which makes OD... go back to his tower and not do anything? the burn doesn't matter before level 4 and at level 4 how does it stop him from last hitting

Go calculate the mana pool of OD and the damage done to him with mana burn. OD can't even stay in lane once nyx hits 5. I played this matchup countless of times. Too lazy to continue this discussion

yeah but OD just lets him get mana burns off and stays at max HP because of wisp, and then he just keeps last hitting

Yea then? They have a useless mid hero that only right clicks for 90 damage, last hit 4 creeps per 30sec, can't join teamfight. Nyx can just rotate off and do shit elsewhere. Maxing mana burn doesn't mean you can't gank. You only have say less 150 dmg per full combo. You actually deal more damage if you are ganking a int hero.
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
April 23 2016 17:05 GMT
#1780
empire is one aggressively unattractive team
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
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