• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:11
CET 19:11
KST 03:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns4[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
WardiTV Winter Cup OSC Season 13 World Championship uThermal 2v2 Circuit WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft Data analysis on 70 million replays Empty tournaments section on Liquipedia A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread The Big Programming Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
GOAT of Goats list
BisuDagger
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1215 users

[ESL One] Manila 2016 - Day 2 - Page 88

Forum Index > Dota 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 86 87 88 89 90 99 Next
Poorlilrich
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia262 Posts
April 23 2016 16:48 GMT
#1741
these NP+ench ganks with no damage are terrible...
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 16:49 GMT
#1742
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 16:49 GMT
#1743
empire and doing a good job of walking into secret so far
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 16:49 GMT
#1744
now secret walked into empire
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 23 2016 16:50 GMT
#1745
Fairly certain if EE got out of the golem, the disruptor would have died.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
April 23 2016 16:50 GMT
#1746
just tuned in but how the hell did secret ends up with this line up lol

rip gl further empire
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
April 23 2016 16:51 GMT
#1747
this lineup looks like empires game.
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 23 2016 16:52 GMT
#1748
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 16:53 GMT
#1749
Oh yea, slark

what's the lockdown for this guy
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 23 2016 16:54 GMT
#1750
OD is key to secret winning. Naix should be irrelevant this game.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
April 23 2016 16:54 GMT
#1751
rtz need to rush hex
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 23 2016 16:55 GMT
#1752
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

Problem is OD shits on nyx in lane.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
April 23 2016 16:56 GMT
#1753
On April 24 2016 01:54 Papercappu wrote:
rtz need to rush hex

bkb is definitely more important
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 16:56 GMT
#1754
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

So you think if nyx did no damage, he would get OD to no mana (and full hp) which makes OD... go back to his tower and not do anything? the burn doesn't matter before level 4 and at level 4 how does it stop him from last hitting
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 23 2016 16:56 GMT
#1755
On April 24 2016 01:55 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

Problem is OD shits on nyx in lane.

Yea you loses lane when you have only 1 lvl in mana burn. That's what I am driving across right
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
April 23 2016 16:57 GMT
#1756
???
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
April 23 2016 16:57 GMT
#1757
Meh Empire falling apart
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 16:57 GMT
#1758
"AfterLife, that was a ShortLife" - Tobi 2016
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
April 23 2016 16:58 GMT
#1759
Wyvern is still obnoxious
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 23 2016 16:58 GMT
#1760
On April 24 2016 01:56 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:55 nojok wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

Problem is OD shits on nyx in lane.

Yea you loses lane when you have only 1 lvl in mana burn. That's what I am driving across right

OD does not even have that high int gain, mana burn won't do that much and any rotation is almost a guaranteed kill on nyx whereas the opposite is less than true with lvl 1 impale.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Prev 1 86 87 88 89 90 99 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 49m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SKillous 501
BRAT_OK 109
JuggernautJason85
MindelVK 47
White-Ra 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2764
Sea 2154
EffOrt 775
Shuttle 625
Jaedong 389
ggaemo 178
Sharp 157
Mong 139
firebathero 102
Barracks 88
[ Show more ]
Snow 58
Hyun 55
soO 39
Aegong 39
JYJ 29
910 18
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Bale 8
Dota 2
qojqva3566
League of Legends
C9.Mang0576
JimRising 527
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1111
Other Games
Grubby3837
Gorgc3168
Liquid`RaSZi2153
FrodaN1897
hiko871
Beastyqt635
ceh9367
ArmadaUGS118
QueenE73
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick34926
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 34
• FirePhoenix5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV457
Other Games
• imaqtpie1251
• Shiphtur266
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
6h 49m
SOOP
9h 49m
OSC
17h 49m
OSC
1d 19h
SOOP
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
5 days
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 21
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
OSC Championship Season 13
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.