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Poorlilrich
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia262 Posts
April 23 2016 16:48 GMT
#1741
these NP+ench ganks with no damage are terrible...
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 16:49 GMT
#1742
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 16:49 GMT
#1743
empire and doing a good job of walking into secret so far
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 16:49 GMT
#1744
now secret walked into empire
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 23 2016 16:50 GMT
#1745
Fairly certain if EE got out of the golem, the disruptor would have died.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
April 23 2016 16:50 GMT
#1746
just tuned in but how the hell did secret ends up with this line up lol

rip gl further empire
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
April 23 2016 16:51 GMT
#1747
this lineup looks like empires game.
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 23 2016 16:52 GMT
#1748
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 16:53 GMT
#1749
Oh yea, slark

what's the lockdown for this guy
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 23 2016 16:54 GMT
#1750
OD is key to secret winning. Naix should be irrelevant this game.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
April 23 2016 16:54 GMT
#1751
rtz need to rush hex
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 23 2016 16:55 GMT
#1752
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

Problem is OD shits on nyx in lane.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
April 23 2016 16:56 GMT
#1753
On April 24 2016 01:54 Papercappu wrote:
rtz need to rush hex

bkb is definitely more important
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 16:56 GMT
#1754
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

So you think if nyx did no damage, he would get OD to no mana (and full hp) which makes OD... go back to his tower and not do anything? the burn doesn't matter before level 4 and at level 4 how does it stop him from last hitting
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 23 2016 16:56 GMT
#1755
On April 24 2016 01:55 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

Problem is OD shits on nyx in lane.

Yea you loses lane when you have only 1 lvl in mana burn. That's what I am driving across right
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
April 23 2016 16:57 GMT
#1756
???
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
April 23 2016 16:57 GMT
#1757
Meh Empire falling apart
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 16:57 GMT
#1758
"AfterLife, that was a ShortLife" - Tobi 2016
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
April 23 2016 16:58 GMT
#1759
Wyvern is still obnoxious
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 23 2016 16:58 GMT
#1760
On April 24 2016 01:56 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:55 nojok wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:52 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:49 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.

that's true later on but from level 1, 2, 3 it wouldnt matter, and then at level 7 why would you want to sit in mid lane as nyx? you want the stun to gank

Why do you need to gank much when you are shutting down the opponent most important carry? OD cannot recover from a failed lane. He can't jungle. Nyx just stick to OD like glue, it doesn't matter if he rotates or you appearing on enemy's map

Problem is OD shits on nyx in lane.

Yea you loses lane when you have only 1 lvl in mana burn. That's what I am driving across right

OD does not even have that high int gain, mana burn won't do that much and any rotation is almost a guaranteed kill on nyx whereas the opposite is less than true with lvl 1 impale.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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