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Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
April 23 2016 16:39 GMT
#1721
naix is not a bad choice though
he can easily handle enchan and 3 men gank relocate
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
Poorlilrich
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia262 Posts
April 23 2016 16:40 GMT
#1722
On April 24 2016 01:38 Kraznaya wrote:
Black Holes in Empire vs Secret 2:

Enigma: 8 casts, 777 dmg, 0:19 stun
Rubick: 3 casts, 5996 dmg, 0:44 stun


I don't understand this... how do you get 0:44 stun from 3 black holes? This includes rubicks stun or what?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 16:40:59
April 23 2016 16:40 GMT
#1723
On April 24 2016 01:40 Poorlilrich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:38 Kraznaya wrote:
Black Holes in Empire vs Secret 2:

Enigma: 8 casts, 777 dmg, 0:19 stun
Rubick: 3 casts, 5996 dmg, 0:44 stun


I don't understand this... how do you get 0:44 stun from 3 black holes? This includes rubicks stun or what?

It's total stun time on all people.

3 5 man BHs would do get up to 3*4*5=60 seconds of stun.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
April 23 2016 16:40 GMT
#1724
On April 24 2016 01:40 Poorlilrich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:38 Kraznaya wrote:
Black Holes in Empire vs Secret 2:

Enigma: 8 casts, 777 dmg, 0:19 stun
Rubick: 3 casts, 5996 dmg, 0:44 stun


I don't understand this... how do you get 0:44 stun from 3 black holes? This includes rubicks stun or what?

stunning 3 heroes for 4 seconds = 12 seconds of stun
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 16:41:15
April 23 2016 16:40 GMT
#1725
On April 24 2016 01:40 Poorlilrich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:38 Kraznaya wrote:
Black Holes in Empire vs Secret 2:

Enigma: 8 casts, 777 dmg, 0:19 stun
Rubick: 3 casts, 5996 dmg, 0:44 stun


I don't understand this... how do you get 0:44 stun from 3 black holes? This includes rubicks stun or what?


All heroes combined

rofl everyone answered under 10 seconds
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
April 23 2016 16:41 GMT
#1726
On April 24 2016 01:40 Poorlilrich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:38 Kraznaya wrote:
Black Holes in Empire vs Secret 2:

Enigma: 8 casts, 777 dmg, 0:19 stun
Rubick: 3 casts, 5996 dmg, 0:44 stun


I don't understand this... how do you get 0:44 stun from 3 black holes? This includes rubicks stun or what?

if you get 5 people in a full 4 second channel that's 0:20 seconds of disable
rip
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 16:41 GMT
#1727
that was real good coordination from distruptor and ench
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 16:41 GMT
#1728
Big mistake from Secret to give Ench to Empire.
The micro management was perfect here.
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
April 23 2016 16:41 GMT
#1729
Mana burn gonna wreck OD in the late game
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
April 23 2016 16:42 GMT
#1730
Waow such teamwork they actually talk to each other
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
April 23 2016 16:42 GMT
#1731
I just cant figure out why when this patch Ench and Lycan are so strong, Puppy doesnt pick those for him and insists on playing heroes he really sucks with.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 16:43 GMT
#1732
On April 24 2016 01:42 FreakyDroid wrote:
I just cant figure out why when this patch Ench and Lycan are so strong, Puppy doesnt pick those for him and insists on playing heroes he really sucks with.

heroes he really sucks with like enigma and dazzle?
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
April 23 2016 16:43 GMT
#1733
On April 24 2016 01:42 FreakyDroid wrote:
I just cant figure out why when this patch Ench and Lycan are so strong, Puppy doesnt pick those for him and insists on playing heroes he really sucks with.

huh it's puppey, he's always done this?
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 23 2016 16:43 GMT
#1734
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 16:48:03
April 23 2016 16:44 GMT
#1735
On April 24 2016 01:43 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:42 FreakyDroid wrote:
I just cant figure out why when this patch Ench and Lycan are so strong, Puppy doesnt pick those for him and insists on playing heroes he really sucks with.

heroes he really sucks with like enigma and dazzle?


Well pretty much everything except the two I mentioned and Chen :D

On April 24 2016 01:43 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:42 FreakyDroid wrote:
I just cant figure out why when this patch Ench and Lycan are so strong, Puppy doesnt pick those for him and insists on playing heroes he really sucks with.

huh it's puppey, he's always done this?


Yeah, he is a stubborn one, but still this is an elimination match and having a lackluster performance isnt what Secret needs. But who knows, maybe he'll surprise me and make some godly plays.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2016 16:45 GMT
#1736
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
April 23 2016 16:45 GMT
#1737
"Secret had more heroes there"

Uh no Winter, both teams brought 4
rip
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 16:45 GMT
#1738
That splinter blast was well done
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 23 2016 16:47 GMT
#1739
On April 24 2016 01:45 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

it doesn't shut down an OD in lane with wisp

Wisp will never ever be able to refil OD's hude mana pool. Zero mana OD is just a creep that can farm and can't tp around to help.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
April 23 2016 16:48 GMT
#1740
On April 24 2016 01:43 babysimba wrote:
lol as core nyx against OD, you should be maxing mana burn with no exceptions. 4s cd mana burn at lvl 7. It's worth sacrificing some ganking ability at the cost of shutting down the OD, the pos1 carry.

Those nyx mid are annoying in pubs, it's always a freelane for OD and a mid with support level of farm and XP for the nyx. In progames I don't know, if they have well planned rotation for farm priority and nyx transitions into pos3/4 it may be ok.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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