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On January 30 2016 21:11 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:10 Zizy wrote:On January 30 2016 21:09 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:07 Acritter wrote: Miracle played good he always plays good but let's not fool ourselves, that game was entirely off the back of Earth Spirit being the poorest series of decisions Icefrog has ever made about a single hero Miracle nearly cost them the game again. That hold was amazing. Yea, but that would have been 2 lanes of rax if it weren't for the ES fountain kick. Cr1t- is a great player. I called it 2 years ago on TL. Cr1t is great yeah but let's honestly not try and pretend that ES is anything but the runner-up to pre-nerf Wisp in terms of game-breaking strength
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On January 30 2016 21:11 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:10 Zizy wrote:On January 30 2016 21:09 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:07 Acritter wrote: Miracle played good he always plays good but let's not fool ourselves, that game was entirely off the back of Earth Spirit being the poorest series of decisions Icefrog has ever made about a single hero Miracle nearly cost them the game again. That hold was amazing. Yea, but that would have been 2 lanes of rax if it weren't for the ES fountain kick. Cr1t- is a great player. I called it 2 years ago on TL.
I'm not denying that he's a skillful player, I'm just trying to point out that having an ability to "swap" an enemy hero standing next to the barracks into your fountain is ridiculous. Not even mentioning the other skills that hero has.
Would have the same stand if EHOME had played it, for me its just awful to watch games like this.
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Why dota tv is not broadcasting?
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that ES hero pull is too strong :o
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On January 30 2016 21:12 Acritter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:11 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:10 Zizy wrote:On January 30 2016 21:09 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:07 Acritter wrote: Miracle played good he always plays good but let's not fool ourselves, that game was entirely off the back of Earth Spirit being the poorest series of decisions Icefrog has ever made about a single hero Miracle nearly cost them the game again. That hold was amazing. Yea, but that would have been 2 lanes of rax if it weren't for the ES fountain kick. Cr1t- is a great player. I called it 2 years ago on TL. Cr1t is great yeah but let's honestly not try and pretend that ES is anything but the runner-up to pre-nerf Wisp in terms of game-breaking strength No one bans it. And he is countered by magic immunity.
TBH, Oracle is more questionable.
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OG just refuses to lose. I don't know I'm getting a championship aura from their resilience.
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On January 30 2016 21:14 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:12 Acritter wrote:On January 30 2016 21:11 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:10 Zizy wrote:On January 30 2016 21:09 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:07 Acritter wrote: Miracle played good he always plays good but let's not fool ourselves, that game was entirely off the back of Earth Spirit being the poorest series of decisions Icefrog has ever made about a single hero Miracle nearly cost them the game again. That hold was amazing. Yea, but that would have been 2 lanes of rax if it weren't for the ES fountain kick. Cr1t- is a great player. I called it 2 years ago on TL. Cr1t is great yeah but let's honestly not try and pretend that ES is anything but the runner-up to pre-nerf Wisp in terms of game-breaking strength No one bans it. And he is countered by magic immunity. TBH, Oracle is more questionable.
Linkens, lotus, bkb. It MIGHT be dispellable, don't know really.
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On January 30 2016 21:13 Zizy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:11 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:10 Zizy wrote:On January 30 2016 21:09 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:07 Acritter wrote: Miracle played good he always plays good but let's not fool ourselves, that game was entirely off the back of Earth Spirit being the poorest series of decisions Icefrog has ever made about a single hero Miracle nearly cost them the game again. That hold was amazing. Yea, but that would have been 2 lanes of rax if it weren't for the ES fountain kick. Cr1t- is a great player. I called it 2 years ago on TL. I'm not denying that he's a skillful player, I'm just trying to point out that having an ability to "swap" an enemy hero standing next to the barracks into your fountain is ridiculous. Not even mentioning the other skills that hero has. Would have the same stand if EHOME had played it, for me its just awful to watch games like this. It has the risk-free catch potential of Meat Hook combined with the raw repositioning power of Flaming Lasso on a 4 position hero that can also use it as a non-sacrificial Nether Swap or just to take a hero out of the fight for a few seconds and oh yeah it cancels blink and deals okay aoe damage and has a lower cooldown than Lasso
What the UTTER fuck?
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On January 30 2016 21:14 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:12 Acritter wrote:On January 30 2016 21:11 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:10 Zizy wrote:On January 30 2016 21:09 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:07 Acritter wrote: Miracle played good he always plays good but let's not fool ourselves, that game was entirely off the back of Earth Spirit being the poorest series of decisions Icefrog has ever made about a single hero Miracle nearly cost them the game again. That hold was amazing. Yea, but that would have been 2 lanes of rax if it weren't for the ES fountain kick. Cr1t- is a great player. I called it 2 years ago on TL. Cr1t is great yeah but let's honestly not try and pretend that ES is anything but the runner-up to pre-nerf Wisp in terms of game-breaking strength No one bans it. And he is countered by magic immunity. TBH, Oracle is more questionable. Oracle is also a problem, but those two statements are just plain false, ES is banned very often for one and I think we'll see it banned more in future
You could "counter" old Wisp with BKB, but that didn't make the hero any less broken because a) not everyone has BKB and b) you can negate the efforts of an enemy hero even when they're BKB'd up
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Why focus on heroes(and radiance in g1), when it was amazing play from both sides.
"Oracle is also a problem, but those two statements are just plain false, ES is banned very often for one and I think we'll see it banned more in future
You could "counter" old Wisp with BKB, but that didn't make the hero any less broken because a) not everyone has BKB and b) you can negate the efforts of an enemy hero even when they're BKB'd up". ES has seen much play this tournament.
Cr1t- alone has played it 3-4 times.
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Many criticised the item pickups by OG esp on slark. But OG very well knew to win this game they have to drag this game out to let invoker/ES/slark become those ridiculous lategame cancers.
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On January 30 2016 21:14 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:12 Acritter wrote:On January 30 2016 21:11 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:10 Zizy wrote:On January 30 2016 21:09 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:07 Acritter wrote: Miracle played good he always plays good but let's not fool ourselves, that game was entirely off the back of Earth Spirit being the poorest series of decisions Icefrog has ever made about a single hero Miracle nearly cost them the game again. That hold was amazing. Yea, but that would have been 2 lanes of rax if it weren't for the ES fountain kick. Cr1t- is a great player. I called it 2 years ago on TL. Cr1t is great yeah but let's honestly not try and pretend that ES is anything but the runner-up to pre-nerf Wisp in terms of game-breaking strength No one bans it. And he is countered by magic immunity. TBH, Oracle is more questionable.
Earth Spirit is the most banned hero of the tournament.
And a part of the issue people have with ES relates to the aghs upgrade, which is not countered by magic immunity in any way.
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These are some of the best games of dota I've seen.
And it is amazing how different they are from the games a couple weeks earlier, or even from the Alliance's victories recently.
Did the meta move past that now? Or are many styles viable at the same time? I don't know, but I am excited for this major. Hope Icefrog doesn't change too much until that.
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Can someone give a quick some up mb? Can Not watch atm.. vod worthy?
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Wait what!!? Did OG turn that around? Muted the stream to do some other stuff after slark dying bot in the base without buyback
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On January 30 2016 21:25 Jotoco wrote: These are some of the best games of dota I've seen.
And it is amazing how different they are from the games a couple weeks earlier, or even from the Alliance's victories recently.
Did the meta move past that now? Or are many styles viable at the same time? I don't know, but I am excited for this major. Hope Icefrog doesn't change too much until that.
the patch is still very new and will evolve with every tournament. if you remember at the beginning of 6.84 it was all about drow-visage 20minute deathball pushes. i expect this patch to make some more turns in random directions before it settles down and becomes "stale". the game we see in 3 months will probably have nothing to do with what we see today.
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On January 30 2016 21:27 Gear 3rd wrote: Can someone give a quick some up mb? Can Not watch atm.. vod worthy?
Absolutely worth watching back. Both games have been exciting and featured lots of momentum swings
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On January 30 2016 21:22 spudde123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:14 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:12 Acritter wrote:On January 30 2016 21:11 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:10 Zizy wrote:On January 30 2016 21:09 Dracolich70 wrote:On January 30 2016 21:07 Acritter wrote: Miracle played good he always plays good but let's not fool ourselves, that game was entirely off the back of Earth Spirit being the poorest series of decisions Icefrog has ever made about a single hero Miracle nearly cost them the game again. That hold was amazing. Yea, but that would have been 2 lanes of rax if it weren't for the ES fountain kick. Cr1t- is a great player. I called it 2 years ago on TL. Cr1t is great yeah but let's honestly not try and pretend that ES is anything but the runner-up to pre-nerf Wisp in terms of game-breaking strength No one bans it. And he is countered by magic immunity. TBH, Oracle is more questionable. Earth Spirit is the most banned hero of the tournament. And a part of the issue people have with ES relates to the aghs upgrade, which is not countered by magic immunity in any way. Marginally. If it still is after this game. Only 37 times out of 65.
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