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[Starladder] Season 13 LAN Finals Playoffs Day 3 - Page 30

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lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 17 2016 12:12 GMT
#581
On January 17 2016 21:10 sunrazgriz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 21:08 lolnoty wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:04 sunrazgriz wrote:
but... but...
in bo5 , EG would .....


VP looked just a good against them in the Summit up 2-0. Alliance 100% won, but don't pretend that you know how it would have gone if it were 5 games.

okay it's starladder fault then.

no? Alliance won. It doesn't matter how many games the finals were, the length of series makes it completely different and not worth arguing.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
January 17 2016 12:12 GMT
#582
On January 17 2016 21:05 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 21:04 Azarkon wrote:
Was Ancient Apparition banned this game? I'd have thought that would be the pick they wanted instead of Venomancer.

Last ban from alliance because EG somehow perefered to 4th pick spectre and 3rd pick veno.

Their third pick was Zeus.

Veno was fifth.
~
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 17 2016 12:13 GMT
#583
rtz played fine, was a hard game to do anything as spectre.

EG doesn't really play Chen/IO(no since Aui left) which I feel like they should concentrate on improving for now I believe. Chen is far too strong right now to pass up on and it woul increas their strategic divertsity too.
WriterXiao8~~
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 17 2016 12:14 GMT
#584
:D
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
January 17 2016 12:14 GMT
#585
i swear i saw on liquipedia that it was a bo5 grand finals, or was i seeing things... =/
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
January 17 2016 12:14 GMT
#586
So I guess this actually puts Secret on a better position in the patch, considering they basically should've won against the champions and only barely lost. Also they can play some of these Alliance heroes.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 17 2016 12:15 GMT
#587
I can't stop laughing at the fact that Navi was one of few teams to take map off of Alliance this tourney.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
common_cider
Profile Joined July 2011
342 Posts
January 17 2016 12:16 GMT
#588
[A]lliance was pitcher/back and EG was catcher/front
Never eat at a chinese restraunt located by the pound
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-17 12:16:46
January 17 2016 12:16 GMT
#589
On January 17 2016 21:12 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 21:10 sunrazgriz wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:08 lolnoty wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:04 sunrazgriz wrote:
but... but...
in bo5 , EG would .....


VP looked just a good against them in the Summit up 2-0. Alliance 100% won, but don't pretend that you know how it would have gone if it were 5 games.

okay it's starladder fault then.

no? Alliance won. It doesn't matter how many games the finals were, the length of series makes it completely different and not worth arguing.

even bo7 , sumail's hero pool is limited , s4 win all day long vs sumail.
6nnn
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
January 17 2016 12:17 GMT
#590
On January 17 2016 21:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
I can't stop laughing at the fact that Navi was one of few teams to take map off of Alliance this tourney.

Alliance's first day should not be considered too much though.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
January 17 2016 12:18 GMT
#591
On January 17 2016 21:11 chairs wrote:
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On January 17 2016 21:10 haduken wrote:
I don't think RTZ played bad. the game was set up in such way it was always gonna be uphill battle for them.

they were relying on the globals and the magic wave clear to hold off long enough for rtz to come online.

alliance just executed to perfection, every fight they achieve some objective, rtz had to bb and join fights before he was ready, of course he will die as he was like their tank and damage.

universe had to initiate but alliance was always ready... tough games... it was draft issue which ppd needs to sort out.


Alliance disengaged from fights really well when Fear dropped down his Death ward as well, made a lot of difference


this is like TI3 alliance all over again, they forcing teams to out play them while making it look effortless.
Rillanon.au
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-17 12:18:58
January 17 2016 12:18 GMT
#592
bo3 is fine it just feels small because alliance crushed so fast

for a grand finals i would of liked to see longer games but it's not alliance's fault that the opponent cant handle their dance moves
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
January 17 2016 12:18 GMT
#593
On January 17 2016 21:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
I can't stop laughing at the fact that Navi was one of few teams to take map off of Alliance this tourney.

To be fair, that was Alliance's game one and they had some pretty terrible conditions leading up to it.
~
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 17 2016 12:18 GMT
#594
On January 17 2016 21:16 sunrazgriz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 21:12 lolnoty wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:10 sunrazgriz wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:08 lolnoty wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:04 sunrazgriz wrote:
but... but...
in bo5 , EG would .....


VP looked just a good against them in the Summit up 2-0. Alliance 100% won, but don't pretend that you know how it would have gone if it were 5 games.

okay it's starladder fault then.

no? Alliance won. It doesn't matter how many games the finals were, the length of series makes it completely different and not worth arguing.

even bo7 , sumail's hero pool is limited , s4 win all day long vs sumail.

limited compared to which other mids?
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-17 12:20:45
January 17 2016 12:19 GMT
#595
On January 17 2016 21:16 sunrazgriz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 21:12 lolnoty wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:10 sunrazgriz wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:08 lolnoty wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:04 sunrazgriz wrote:
but... but...
in bo5 , EG would .....


VP looked just a good against them in the Summit up 2-0. Alliance 100% won, but don't pretend that you know how it would have gone if it were 5 games.

okay it's starladder fault then.

no? Alliance won. It doesn't matter how many games the finals were, the length of series makes it completely different and not worth arguing.

even bo7 , sumail's hero pool is limited , s4 win all day long vs sumail.


yeah sumail does look very ordinary vs s4 but then again we forget that s4 was considered THE best mid (excluding his horrendous TI performance on secret 2.0)
Rillanon.au
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
January 17 2016 12:21 GMT
#596
On January 17 2016 21:18 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 21:16 sunrazgriz wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:12 lolnoty wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:10 sunrazgriz wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:08 lolnoty wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:04 sunrazgriz wrote:
but... but...
in bo5 , EG would .....


VP looked just a good against them in the Summit up 2-0. Alliance 100% won, but don't pretend that you know how it would have gone if it were 5 games.

okay it's starladder fault then.

no? Alliance won. It doesn't matter how many games the finals were, the length of series makes it completely different and not worth arguing.

even bo7 , sumail's hero pool is limited , s4 win all day long vs sumail.

limited compared to which other mids?

i believe the starladder final is EG vs A
6nnn
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 17 2016 12:24 GMT
#597


;;
WriterXiao8~~
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 17 2016 12:27 GMT
#598
On January 17 2016 21:21 sunrazgriz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 21:18 lolnoty wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:16 sunrazgriz wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:12 lolnoty wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:10 sunrazgriz wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:08 lolnoty wrote:
On January 17 2016 21:04 sunrazgriz wrote:
but... but...
in bo5 , EG would .....


VP looked just a good against them in the Summit up 2-0. Alliance 100% won, but don't pretend that you know how it would have gone if it were 5 games.

okay it's starladder fault then.

no? Alliance won. It doesn't matter how many games the finals were, the length of series makes it completely different and not worth arguing.

even bo7 , sumail's hero pool is limited , s4 win all day long vs sumail.

limited compared to which other mids?

i believe the starladder final is EG vs A

s4: NS, Puck, Bat, QoP, DP - 5
Sumail: Zeus, QoP, Ember, Bat, Brew, SK, Razor, DP, Invoker - 9

Yeah man, Sumail only almost played twice as many heroes as S4 this tournament. If only his hero pool wasn't so limited and he could do more than play a different hero almost every game.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Gear 3rd
Profile Joined July 2011
1244 Posts
January 17 2016 12:27 GMT
#599
This patch could develop into a nightmare for EG.
I will stop my rant about A now. I still dont like them but when they won I thought "well at least theyre celebrating: humans confirmed!"
Imo if some particular players sort out their issues (which they propably will) i think Secret TL could come out really strong this patch in the long run. And i am really curious how OG and VG will approach the patch at shanghai.
Off to TI3 VODs to study.
EXTERMINATE!
woojaekeem
Profile Joined May 2013
United States524 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-17 12:28:05
January 17 2016 12:27 GMT
#600
lol

artour should redirect some of that passive aggression into encouraging fear/ppd to master chen and/or wisp
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