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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 30 2015 19:18 GMT
#1721
On October 01 2015 04:11 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 04:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 01 2015 04:03 dutchfriese wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:45 dutchfriese wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:28 dutchfriese wrote:
I'm getting a little worried for vega since their draft is all in on physical damage. Getting an AC up will be really big for them.

I mean, it's not like there is a counter to amount of -armor slardar-dazzle have.


They needed a composition that could have feasibly built Guardian Greaves, AC, Vlad's, and at least one solar crest. Sven Warcry would have helped a ton as well. In this particular game Kuro definitely should have built GG.

Lich would have been an interesting pick in this game, but I highly doubt anyone was even thinking about that hero.

You forget the important draft point: slardar was last of picks, boys would need some foresight to blind counter it and not get screwed over. Also, gg does not even do much against slardar, aura only kicks in when you are way too low to actually fight against stuns.


GG would have done a lot vs the weave and the death ward. 15 armor + a 250 aoe heal is a lot and definitely should be been picked up vs Vega in that match. But hey, boots of travel did a lot of work in that game right? Great pick up by Kuro.

You forget that 15 armor kicks in when boys' heroes are at around 400 HP in lategame. If anything, armor is not counter to slardar+dazzle, jumping them first is.


I didn't fucking forget anything rofl. Vega's draft was all in on physical dps. To counteract it 5jungz needed to go all in on itemizing against it, ergo GG was a mandatory item. Period.

Except that when you have 400 HP, cutting through it is not much of a problem even with greaves+vlads+ac+solar crest. Long story short: having 15 armor won't win the fight. Jumping first shall.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
apes
Profile Joined October 2011
United States826 Posts
September 30 2015 19:26 GMT
#1722
what a shit show from dire side, holy moly
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 30 2015 19:36 GMT
#1723
Inb4 Ember/Brood first bans in next game.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
September 30 2015 19:39 GMT
#1724
Why does sound randomly go up by 1000x sometimes.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 30 2015 19:43 GMT
#1725
0-3-0 Storm, always a pleasure to see.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
September 30 2015 19:45 GMT
#1726
I bet EG has ember picked or banned in every game they play this weekend.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
September 30 2015 19:51 GMT
#1727
Both games Vega just goes aggressive tri and both lycan and spectre picks seemed questionable. This game fata farmed and split pushed without even taking the tower while his team was getting mauled.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
September 30 2015 19:54 GMT
#1728
I don't even know how teams get away with early brood or ember picks.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
September 30 2015 20:00 GMT
#1729
On October 01 2015 04:54 babysimba wrote:
I don't even know how teams get away with early brood or ember picks.


because the enemy team still picks storm lol

we won't see the zip zap mexican electrician for quite some time in competitive play, poor guy got his skull caved in by icefrog's nerf hammer.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 30 2015 20:00 GMT
#1730
On October 01 2015 04:54 babysimba wrote:
I don't even know how teams get away with early brood or ember picks.

EU doto, if you did not forget, peeps had to first ban AM to beat a pub-stack
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
September 30 2015 20:06 GMT
#1731
On October 01 2015 05:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 04:54 babysimba wrote:
I don't even know how teams get away with early brood or ember picks.

EU doto, if you did not forget, peeps had to first ban AM to beat a pub-stack


Or if you know it's the only thing they can play so it's easier to just ban it.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 30 2015 20:09 GMT
#1732
i would have liked to see vega in ti5. i felt they were a pretty okay team even though they lost to the Koreans which they also performed pretty good.
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
September 30 2015 20:09 GMT
#1733
new twitch player keeps spamming me with a million ads in a row so i can't actually watch the fucking game
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
September 30 2015 20:13 GMT
#1734
What's with the razor picks? Sure they have won a bunch of games when they pick it but i feel like Matu has won those games and Fata just farmed.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
September 30 2015 20:36 GMT
#1735
On October 01 2015 05:13 Daray wrote:
What's with the razor picks? Sure they have won a bunch of games when they pick it but i feel like Matu has won those games and Fata just farmed.


I think they wanted a tankier mid to sustain those ganks and rotation vega likes to do , Razor is better then Viper cuz he can actually farm so its not that bad
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
September 30 2015 20:37 GMT
#1736
nice song vega
Romanes eunt domus
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
September 30 2015 20:43 GMT
#1737
On October 01 2015 05:36 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:13 Daray wrote:
What's with the razor picks? Sure they have won a bunch of games when they pick it but i feel like Matu has won those games and Fata just farmed.


I think they wanted a tankier mid to sustain those ganks and rotation vega likes to do , Razor is better then Viper cuz he can actually farm so its not that bad


Yeah that's true. I guess in the second game they had a safe lane Lycan but with the Matu ember it seems like a good pick.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
September 30 2015 20:43 GMT
#1738
razor worked well i would say;)
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 30 2015 20:59 GMT
#1739
Ok, Ember-less game hype.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
September 30 2015 21:11 GMT
#1740
poor mind control
two deaths no cs
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
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