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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
September 30 2015 18:41 GMT
#1701
Look at it go.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
September 30 2015 18:41 GMT
#1702
On October 01 2015 03:31 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:08 bagels21 wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
Ok, this is looking to be third patch in a row where shaker is definite top pick. IceFraud, please, why you have to create another batrider.


to be fair shaker is a fun hero that's aesthetically pleasing and a traditionally strong hero throughout dota history

see also: batrider


Batrider was OP , he could jungle better then he could lane (which he did really well anyway) he got tons of farm and was good in all stages of the game peirceing BKB as well , ES is really not the same....
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28084 Posts
September 30 2015 18:41 GMT
#1703
Would have been a great fight if they stopped that Death Ward.
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dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-30 18:46:09
September 30 2015 18:45 GMT
#1704
On October 01 2015 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:28 dutchfriese wrote:
I'm getting a little worried for vega since their draft is all in on physical damage. Getting an AC up will be really big for them.

I mean, it's not like there is a counter to amount of -armor slardar-dazzle have.


They needed a composition that could have feasibly built Guardian Greaves, AC, Vlad's, and at least one solar crest. Sven Warcry would have helped a ton as well. In this particular game Kuro definitely should have built GG.

Lich would have been an interesting pick in this game, but I highly doubt anyone was even thinking about that hero.
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
September 30 2015 18:46 GMT
#1705
On October 01 2015 03:31 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:08 bagels21 wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
Ok, this is looking to be third patch in a row where shaker is definite top pick. IceFraud, please, why you have to create another batrider.


to be fair shaker is a fun hero that's aesthetically pleasing and a traditionally strong hero throughout dota history

see also: batrider


haha the real batrider equivalent is like naga. Literally always a viable pick.

I kinda weirdly miss bat
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
September 30 2015 18:49 GMT
#1706
On October 01 2015 03:45 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:28 dutchfriese wrote:
I'm getting a little worried for vega since their draft is all in on physical damage. Getting an AC up will be really big for them.

I mean, it's not like there is a counter to amount of -armor slardar-dazzle have.


They needed a composition that could have feasibly built Guardian Greaves, AC, Vlad's, and at least one solar crest. Sven Warcry would have helped a ton as well. In this particular game Kuro definitely should have built GG.

Lich would have been an interesting pick in this game, but I highly doubt anyone was even thinking about that hero.

You forget the important draft point: slardar was last of picks, boys would need some foresight to blind counter it and not get screwed over. Also, gg does not even do much against slardar, aura only kicks in when you are way too low to actually fight against stuns.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
September 30 2015 18:50 GMT
#1707
would be nice if fata played some heroes that didn't end up useless past 40 mins
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
September 30 2015 18:50 GMT
#1708
On October 01 2015 03:46 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:31 Elyvilon wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:08 bagels21 wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
Ok, this is looking to be third patch in a row where shaker is definite top pick. IceFraud, please, why you have to create another batrider.


to be fair shaker is a fun hero that's aesthetically pleasing and a traditionally strong hero throughout dota history

see also: batrider


haha the real batrider equivalent is like naga. Literally always a viable pick.

I kinda weirdly miss bat


I want Bat back so we can have PLD on sacrificial Venge every game again
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
September 30 2015 18:51 GMT
#1709
That lycan was so useless...
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
September 30 2015 18:51 GMT
#1710
On October 01 2015 03:50 Verniy wrote:
would be nice if fata played some heroes that didn't end up useless past 40 mins

Hey, he used to play Naga back in the day. His game where he forgot heart on courier for 6 or so minutes will be remembered in ages.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
September 30 2015 18:52 GMT
#1711
On October 01 2015 03:50 Verniy wrote:
would be nice if fata played some heroes that didn't end up useless past 40 mins


Time for Fata Veno?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
September 30 2015 18:54 GMT
#1712
On October 01 2015 03:52 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:50 Verniy wrote:
would be nice if fata played some heroes that didn't end up useless past 40 mins


Time for Fata Veno?

Ultimate irony.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
September 30 2015 18:59 GMT
#1713
But the last game, you could actually see, that no-one is not even close, to being as good with ember, as matumba.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
September 30 2015 19:00 GMT
#1714
On October 01 2015 03:59 hunter_x wrote:
But the last game, you could actually see, that no-one is not even close, to being as good with ember, as matumba.

I almost got confused. And yes, he is not... but who cares, ember with 100% winrate in series despite being first picked in both games thus far.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
September 30 2015 19:03 GMT
#1715
On October 01 2015 03:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:45 dutchfriese wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:28 dutchfriese wrote:
I'm getting a little worried for vega since their draft is all in on physical damage. Getting an AC up will be really big for them.

I mean, it's not like there is a counter to amount of -armor slardar-dazzle have.


They needed a composition that could have feasibly built Guardian Greaves, AC, Vlad's, and at least one solar crest. Sven Warcry would have helped a ton as well. In this particular game Kuro definitely should have built GG.

Lich would have been an interesting pick in this game, but I highly doubt anyone was even thinking about that hero.

You forget the important draft point: slardar was last of picks, boys would need some foresight to blind counter it and not get screwed over. Also, gg does not even do much against slardar, aura only kicks in when you are way too low to actually fight against stuns.


GG would have done a lot vs the weave and the death ward. 15 armor + a 250 aoe heal is a lot and definitely should be been picked up vs Vega in that match. But hey, boots of travel did a lot of work in that game right? Great pick up by Kuro.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
September 30 2015 19:05 GMT
#1716
On October 01 2015 04:03 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:45 dutchfriese wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:28 dutchfriese wrote:
I'm getting a little worried for vega since their draft is all in on physical damage. Getting an AC up will be really big for them.

I mean, it's not like there is a counter to amount of -armor slardar-dazzle have.


They needed a composition that could have feasibly built Guardian Greaves, AC, Vlad's, and at least one solar crest. Sven Warcry would have helped a ton as well. In this particular game Kuro definitely should have built GG.

Lich would have been an interesting pick in this game, but I highly doubt anyone was even thinking about that hero.

You forget the important draft point: slardar was last of picks, boys would need some foresight to blind counter it and not get screwed over. Also, gg does not even do much against slardar, aura only kicks in when you are way too low to actually fight against stuns.


GG would have done a lot vs the weave and the death ward. 15 armor + a 250 aoe heal is a lot and definitely should be been picked up vs Vega in that match. But hey, boots of travel did a lot of work in that game right? Great pick up by Kuro.

You forget that 15 armor kicks in when boys' heroes are at around 400 HP in lategame. If anything, armor is not counter to slardar+dazzle, jumping them first is.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
September 30 2015 19:06 GMT
#1717
there we go
fata storm seems good
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
September 30 2015 19:09 GMT
#1718
On October 01 2015 04:06 Verniy wrote:
there we go
fata storm seems good




Though admittedly Fata played a bunch of Storm after that but I had to jump at the opportunity :D
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-30 19:11:41
September 30 2015 19:11 GMT
#1719
On October 01 2015 04:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 04:03 dutchfriese wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:45 dutchfriese wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:28 dutchfriese wrote:
I'm getting a little worried for vega since their draft is all in on physical damage. Getting an AC up will be really big for them.

I mean, it's not like there is a counter to amount of -armor slardar-dazzle have.


They needed a composition that could have feasibly built Guardian Greaves, AC, Vlad's, and at least one solar crest. Sven Warcry would have helped a ton as well. In this particular game Kuro definitely should have built GG.

Lich would have been an interesting pick in this game, but I highly doubt anyone was even thinking about that hero.

You forget the important draft point: slardar was last of picks, boys would need some foresight to blind counter it and not get screwed over. Also, gg does not even do much against slardar, aura only kicks in when you are way too low to actually fight against stuns.


GG would have done a lot vs the weave and the death ward. 15 armor + a 250 aoe heal is a lot and definitely should be been picked up vs Vega in that match. But hey, boots of travel did a lot of work in that game right? Great pick up by Kuro.

You forget that 15 armor kicks in when boys' heroes are at around 400 HP in lategame. If anything, armor is not counter to slardar+dazzle, jumping them first is.


I didn't fucking forget anything rofl. Vega's draft was all in on physical dps. To counteract it 5jungz needed to go all in on itemizing against it, ergo GG was a mandatory item. Period.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
September 30 2015 19:17 GMT
#1720
disaster
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