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A few USA chants are fine but please don't do it too much.

Stop the stupid USA arguments, thanks.

On another note, CDEC flairs are now live. Sorry about the delay on that.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 08 2015 20:56 GMT
#2481
On August 09 2015 05:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:54 WindWolf wrote:
That March scream was amazing!

Yeah, passion overload haha.

Kaci's reaction was also golden
EZ4ENCE
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6336 Posts
August 08 2015 20:56 GMT
#2482
On August 09 2015 05:54 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:52 plasmidghost wrote:
People should read the mod note

Honestly I always miss the mod note in LR threads...

the thread just moves so fast

It should be another colour or something, you don't notice it straight away.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 20:57:16
August 08 2015 20:56 GMT
#2483
On August 09 2015 05:54 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:50 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:46 Shergal wrote:
WEC actually had double elimination grand finals, with two sets of BO3 played and the winner bracket team having to only win one (or was it two sets of BO5? Doesn't matter either way).

Double elimination tournaments are inherently shitty though. I never understood gaming's fetish for them.

Double elimination exists because there is no consistency in team seeding and prize pool.

If DotA had a proper team ranking system and a prize pool spread across every tournament in the year, the single elim would be fine. It's a fucking horrible idea when seeding is entirely dependent on luck and tournaments can eclipse the total sum of everything else in a year.

Take this tournament for example. Top 6 teams, 5 were in Group B.


I'm sorry gimping the grand finals is stupid. You get 2 lives to rule out luck in surviving the bracket. If you want 3 mil. Earn it. Plenty of SC tournaments were shit with the 1 game advantage. It's a huge up in terms of strategic flexibility. All the tournament is is qualification for that one match.

Don't throw a fit just because EG might win lol

You realise you are gimping the grand finals by not having a winners advantage right? If EG win its not a real victory and it kills any real sense of victory.

If EG were to have to come from 1 game behind or win 2 Bo5 series then that would be hype as fuck and it would mean they truely are the TI champions. If they win now its like "well EG won buuuuuuuuut..."

Basically if EG wins it'll just be anticlimactic
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 08 2015 20:56 GMT
#2484
On August 09 2015 05:56 solidbebe wrote:
What was the VG twitter post about CDEC spelling?

That it's C-D-E-C instead of Sea-deck.

Someone(Redeye?) said he'd ignore it, but switched to C-D-E-C instead. Production probably had a word with him.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
August 08 2015 20:56 GMT
#2485
The Koreans were wonderful. Great personalities.
I hope the Korean Dota Scene gets a lift because of this TI performance.
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 08 2015 20:56 GMT
#2486
On August 09 2015 05:55 Darpa wrote:
Its baffling how literally half this thread is people arguing about either : USA chants, Racism for cheering for west, or how to say CDEC.

Jesus would you people just watch dota.

Sure. Please put the DotA on now.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
August 08 2015 20:57 GMT
#2487
On August 09 2015 05:56 solidbebe wrote:
What was the VG twitter post about CDEC spelling?


It said that CDEC is actually an acronym, so you should pronounce each letter. They said the casters calling them C-Deck were incorrect.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
August 08 2015 20:57 GMT
#2488
On August 09 2015 05:56 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:55 Darpa wrote:
Its baffling how literally half this thread is people arguing about either : USA chants, Racism for cheering for west, or how to say CDEC.

Jesus would you people just watch dota.

what do you mean YOU PEOPLE? let's argue


Oh shit! I'm a closet racist, please help me check my privilege
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
August 08 2015 20:57 GMT
#2489
Time to wear a CDEC flair, just for the final. Let's show all those old dota fossil that youngsters and pubstars will start a new era of DOTO.
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
August 08 2015 20:57 GMT
#2490
On August 09 2015 05:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:51 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:48 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:44 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:42 stuchiu wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:42 IntoTheheart wrote:
Azarkon already said that "PPD won't lose to CDEC again."


he also said they wouldnt lose ever.

Also said Secret was unstoppable, Empire was third best in the world, C9 would shut out Chinese teams from the top 3, MVP would make Loser's Finals, VP would crush LGD...

Azarkon says a lot of things. We seriously need a log blog of all his flipflopping.


Sure, sure, but you fail to see the big idea, which is West > China this year. Doesn't matter how much I go from team to team; that's the idea I'm going for.

I mean, you are actually grasping for straws. EG will likely win, but West as a whole lost in grander picture, especially compared to Ti3.


There were only two Western teams above top Chinese teams in 2013. Did that stop people from saying West > China?

Exactly, 2, plus one NADota team knocked out another Chinese one (it was Bo1 but still), plus Dignitas did knock out Rattlesnake in first loser's round, huh. That's much better of West vs China record than this TI, huh.

Actually, fuck it, i am bored during the break:

West vs China at TI3: 5-2 in favor of West

West vs China at TI5: 3-7 in favor of China.


Just ignore him, he's just a bandwagonner that changes his PoV each day
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 20:58:10
August 08 2015 20:57 GMT
#2491
On August 09 2015 05:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:51 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:48 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:44 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:42 stuchiu wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:42 IntoTheheart wrote:
Azarkon already said that "PPD won't lose to CDEC again."


he also said they wouldnt lose ever.

Also said Secret was unstoppable, Empire was third best in the world, C9 would shut out Chinese teams from the top 3, MVP would make Loser's Finals, VP would crush LGD...

Azarkon says a lot of things. We seriously need a log blog of all his flipflopping.


Sure, sure, but you fail to see the big idea, which is West > China this year. Doesn't matter how much I go from team to team; that's the idea I'm going for.

I mean, you are actually grasping for straws. EG will likely win, but West as a whole lost in grander picture, especially compared to Ti3.


There were only two Western teams above top Chinese teams in 2013. Did that stop people from saying West > China?

Exactly, 2, plus one NADota team knocked out another Chinese one (it was Bo1 but still), plus Dignitas did knock out Rattlesnake in first loser's round, huh. That's much better of West vs China record than this TI, huh.

Actually, fuck it, i am bored during the break:

West vs China at TI3: 5-2 in favor of West

West vs China at TI5: 3-7 in favor of China.


The difference of one team's results and you're not even looking the group games. Who the fuck cares.
CherryNubCakes
Profile Joined July 2012
United States972 Posts
August 08 2015 20:58 GMT
#2492
On August 09 2015 05:56 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:54 Sabu113 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:50 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:46 Shergal wrote:
WEC actually had double elimination grand finals, with two sets of BO3 played and the winner bracket team having to only win one (or was it two sets of BO5? Doesn't matter either way).

Double elimination tournaments are inherently shitty though. I never understood gaming's fetish for them.

Double elimination exists because there is no consistency in team seeding and prize pool.

If DotA had a proper team ranking system and a prize pool spread across every tournament in the year, the single elim would be fine. It's a fucking horrible idea when seeding is entirely dependent on luck and tournaments can eclipse the total sum of everything else in a year.

Take this tournament for example. Top 6 teams, 5 were in Group B.


I'm sorry gimping the grand finals is stupid. You get 2 lives to rule out luck in surviving the bracket. If you want 3 mil. Earn it. Plenty of SC tournaments were shit with the 1 game advantage. It's a huge up in terms of strategic flexibility. All the tournament is is qualification for that one match.

Don't throw a fit just because EG might win lol

You realise you are gimping the grand finals by not having a winners advantage right? If EG win its not a real victory and it kills any real sense of victory.

If EG were to have to come from 1 game behind or win 2 Bo5 series then that would be hype as fuck and it would mean they truely are the TI champions. If they win now its like "well EG won buuuuuuuuut..."

They were in the same groups. If you want to make yourself feel better, the mental gymnastics you must perform would be "the 0-2 counts as partial elimination"
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 08 2015 20:58 GMT
#2493
Man this Fy play was so pimpin
Neosteel Enthusiast
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
August 08 2015 20:58 GMT
#2494
FY God and QO made day 2 so fun to watch.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
August 08 2015 20:58 GMT
#2495
On August 09 2015 05:56 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:56 solidbebe wrote:
What was the VG twitter post about CDEC spelling?

That it's C-D-E-C instead of Sea-deck.

Someone(Redeye?) said he'd ignore it, but switched to C-D-E-C instead. Production probably had a word with him.

Hmm... well C-D-E-C certainly doesnt roll off the tongue like C-DEC does. Oh well
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
August 08 2015 20:58 GMT
#2496
Really? FY GOD is #3 in an arbitrary highlight ranking?

Volvo plz
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 20:59:16
August 08 2015 20:58 GMT
#2497
On August 09 2015 05:57 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:51 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:48 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:44 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:42 stuchiu wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:42 IntoTheheart wrote:
Azarkon already said that "PPD won't lose to CDEC again."


he also said they wouldnt lose ever.

Also said Secret was unstoppable, Empire was third best in the world, C9 would shut out Chinese teams from the top 3, MVP would make Loser's Finals, VP would crush LGD...

Azarkon says a lot of things. We seriously need a log blog of all his flipflopping.


Sure, sure, but you fail to see the big idea, which is West > China this year. Doesn't matter how much I go from team to team; that's the idea I'm going for.

I mean, you are actually grasping for straws. EG will likely win, but West as a whole lost in grander picture, especially compared to Ti3.


There were only two Western teams above top Chinese teams in 2013. Did that stop people from saying West > China?

Exactly, 2, plus one NADota team knocked out another Chinese one (it was Bo1 but still), plus Dignitas did knock out Rattlesnake in first loser's round, huh. That's much better of West vs China record than this TI, huh.

Actually, fuck it, i am bored during the break:

West vs China at TI3: 5-2 in favor of West

West vs China at TI5: 3-7 in favor of China.


The difference of one team's results and you're not even looking the group games. Who the fuck cares.

The difference of which team's results? If EG did not cheese EHOME out, we would likely have even more lopsided record in favor of China. Also, obviously i am not giving a fuck about group games because remember where top 2 of group A finished?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 08 2015 20:58 GMT
#2498
seeing this c9 clip makes me excited for post-ti shuffles. this year it will be condensed down into a short period so it'll be more fun than 6 months of "these results don't matter every team is changing players"
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
August 08 2015 20:59 GMT
#2499
On August 09 2015 05:56 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:54 Sabu113 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:50 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:46 Shergal wrote:
WEC actually had double elimination grand finals, with two sets of BO3 played and the winner bracket team having to only win one (or was it two sets of BO5? Doesn't matter either way).

Double elimination tournaments are inherently shitty though. I never understood gaming's fetish for them.

Double elimination exists because there is no consistency in team seeding and prize pool.

If DotA had a proper team ranking system and a prize pool spread across every tournament in the year, the single elim would be fine. It's a fucking horrible idea when seeding is entirely dependent on luck and tournaments can eclipse the total sum of everything else in a year.

Take this tournament for example. Top 6 teams, 5 were in Group B.


I'm sorry gimping the grand finals is stupid. You get 2 lives to rule out luck in surviving the bracket. If you want 3 mil. Earn it. Plenty of SC tournaments were shit with the 1 game advantage. It's a huge up in terms of strategic flexibility. All the tournament is is qualification for that one match.

Don't throw a fit just because EG might win lol

You realise you are gimping the grand finals by not having a winners advantage right? If EG win its not a real victory and it kills any real sense of victory.

If EG were to have to come from 1 game behind or win 2 Bo5 series then that would be hype as fuck and it would mean they truely are the TI champions. If they win now its like "well EG won buuuuuuuuut..."

Basically if EG wins it'll just be anticlimactic


Exactly! Even if EG would win they would still not be the "real" winners.

I seriously doubt that anyone who has ever played any game competitively defends the "no WB advantage".
Anyone who has been in the same situation knows how unfair it is not getting the second life that the other teams had
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 08 2015 20:59 GMT
#2500
Do you pronounce DOTA as D-O-T-A or just DOTA
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