EPT[TI5] Main Event Day 5 - Page 209
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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TiTanIum_
Brazil1335 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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bagels21
United States4357 Posts
On August 08 2015 10:25 TheYango wrote: It just makes it all the more amusing how many people were saying Xiao8 was washed up and should retire 2 years ago after LGD's TI3 run. that's what "liquid are doing it" does to you lol | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On August 08 2015 10:24 Evander Berry Wall wrote: Actually, before Hao was picked off that one time, I'd say VG was in a pretty good position. If they kept stalling, I believe PL could have pulled away pretty well. And if they could pressure the game into fights that were more on their own turf, it would have been much easier to really make the potential big combos they had work. i don't see how pl would pull ahead; he doesn't naturally farm faster than sf or gyro and lgd diligently stayed spread out so they could never 100-0 both sf and gyro with their combo | ||
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beifru
2164 Posts
On August 08 2015 10:26 Azarkon wrote: Also, LGD and CDEC best Chinese teams in this tournament; same organization. Looks to me getting two teams = win. CDEC and LGD are scrim partners. If anything, it means that if you scrim with the best, you become one of the best as well. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 08 2015 10:26 Azarkon wrote: Also, LGD and CDEC best Chinese teams in this tournament; same organization. Looks to me getting two teams = win. It also shows how new talent and old talent together fosters the growth of both. Even if you aren't going to put them on the same team, the second team helps both teams grow. On August 08 2015 10:21 a-game wrote: I hope people are starting to realize how important xiao8 was to Newbee's performance last year. The mothafuckin' Director He's already graduated from being "director". Chinese commentators have called him "8师傅" (basically master/teacher) for some time now. | ||
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bagels21
United States4357 Posts
On August 08 2015 10:25 Elurie wrote: Ugh the stupid theater listing site isn't working. yeah i'm getting a runtime error too | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On August 08 2015 10:22 Kraznaya wrote: iceiceice was awful this game (although the rest of his team wasn't much better) and probably had the weakest tournament out of all his teammates I know. He did shown up in the main stages though. I'm just sad for my fellow Singaporean, especially since he was on the undisputed best teams for the past 2 years (dk Vici both were #1 at the first half of each dota year). | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
On August 08 2015 10:22 Shergal wrote: not sure if Earthshaker is "op" in the conventional sense but he's easily top3 high priority picks in the game right now. I don't remember what VG banned in the second phase but giving ES away might have been a mistake. Even picking it over DS and putting icex3 on it + another support to work around the offlane would have worked. Earthshaker is balanced. He's melee so all the complications in laning such a hero are present. His non-ult damage isn't that great unless you play him mid. Various supports can still use their ults to some degree without a costly item like dagger but for earthshaker your lucky to use it in more than 1 out of 50 instances without a 2.5K+ item. He is exceptional in being useful even when starved for levels compared to almost every other hero and it's that utility from fissure that ensures he is relevant across multiple patches. | ||
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Steelavocado
United States2123 Posts
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beifru
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On August 08 2015 10:28 mutantmagnet wrote: Earthshaker is balanced. He's melee so all the complications in laning such a hero are present. His non-ult damage isn't that great unless you play him mid. Various supports can still use their ults to some degree without a costly item like dagger but for earthshaker your lucky to use it in more than 1 out of 50 instances without a 2.5K+ item. He is exceptional in being useful even when starved for levels compared to almost every other hero and it's that utility from fissure that ensures he is relevant across multiple patches. Honestly, I think fissure range should be nerfed just a little. Its too easy to get early game blocks off now. This is of course taking into account the fact that ES is a hero with 3 stuns and one evens goes through BKB in an AOE fashion. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Mensol
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On August 08 2015 10:26 Azarkon wrote: Also, LGD and CDEC best Chinese teams in this tournament; same organization. Looks to me getting two teams = win. They used to be same organization i think. CDEC created their own brand. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On August 08 2015 10:26 IshinShishi wrote: Fy and fenrir were pretty much irrelevant the last two games, they sat on their lanes doing nothing while mmy and xiao8 dominated the map, either their strat sucks in general or they cant play it. You can't do much with that duo though. Their whole strat was to farm up, and do to lgd what they did to c9 - lift ice blast laguna the sf or gyro, then pl wipes out the rest. Difference is that this time lgd had es to disrupt the combo. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On August 08 2015 10:30 beifru wrote: Honestly, I think fissure range should be nerfed just a little. Its too easy to get early game blocks off now. This is of course taking into account the fact that ES is a hero with 3 stuns and one evens goes through BKB in an AOE fashion. the only part of echo that goes through bkb is the echo damage to things around the hero... though the instant cast is easy to get off against bkbs | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
On August 08 2015 10:25 TheYango wrote: It just makes it all the more amusing how many people were saying Xiao8 was washed up and should retire 2 years ago after LGD's TI3 run. I remember that. Some people like to talk too much shit. It was and still is pretty pathetic. | ||
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Danzo
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On August 08 2015 10:25 TheYango wrote: It just makes it all the more amusing how many people were saying Xiao8 was washed up and should retire 2 years ago after LGD's TI3 run. Well he played total crap in ti3 though. | ||
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