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ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
August 06 2015 07:44 GMT
#7401
On August 06 2015 16:41 broodbucket wrote:
sorry EHOME fans

everyone I cheer for loses

this TI has been so incredibly depressing

EHOME isn't out yet.
There is no need to be mad.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 06 2015 07:46 GMT
#7402
Poll: MVP vs. VG?

Vici Gaming (46)
 
52%

MVP Phoenix (43)
 
48%

89 total votes

Your vote: MVP vs. VG?

(Vote): MVP Phoenix
(Vote): Vici Gaming


Poll: VP vs. Secret?

Team Secret (68)
 
64%

Virtus.pro (39)
 
36%

107 total votes

Your vote: VP vs. Secret?

(Vote): Virtus.pro
(Vote): Team Secret



Poll: All-Star Match?

Team BigDaddy - SumaiL, iceiceice, BurNing, xiao8 & Arteezy (45)
 
64%

Team ChuaN - Mushi, Puppey, Fear, Ferrari_430 & Hao (25)
 
36%

70 total votes

Your vote: All-Star Match?

(Vote): Team BigDaddy - SumaiL, iceiceice, BurNing, xiao8 & Arteezy
(Vote): Team ChuaN - Mushi, Puppey, Fear, Ferrari_430 & Hao

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Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
August 06 2015 07:46 GMT
#7403
On August 06 2015 16:25 CptMarvel wrote:
There's no denying that eastern DOTA has, historically, been a lot less entertaining than its western counterpart. It's really not surprising if you know chinese people, that's just the way they are : way too serious and not inclined to take any risk.


WEST FANBOY DETECTED :D.
I just find it funny when ppl attack eastern dota for playing boring, when this TI most attractive dota is played by chinese teams.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 08:05:56
August 06 2015 08:04 GMT
#7404
On August 06 2015 16:46 Valhalla44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 16:25 CptMarvel wrote:
There's no denying that eastern DOTA has, historically, been a lot less entertaining than its western counterpart. It's really not surprising if you know chinese people, that's just the way they are : way too serious and not inclined to take any risk.


WEST FANBOY DETECTED :D.
I just find it funny when ppl attack eastern dota for playing boring, when this TI most attractive dota is played by chinese teams.

If only Yellow Submarine had made it to the main event

edit: PPD isn't in the allstar match? Volvo plz
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 06 2015 08:32 GMT
#7405
On August 06 2015 16:25 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 16:24 Reson wrote:
On August 06 2015 16:16 Rebs wrote:
On August 06 2015 16:07 snow2.0 wrote:
On August 06 2015 16:03 Rebs wrote:
On August 06 2015 15:49 Supamang wrote:
On August 06 2015 15:47 DucK- wrote:
It may be a low action game, but don't blame eg for it. Blame ehome for turtling and not wanting to come out. If ehome was always out of their side of the map, I'm sure eg would be happy to take fights.

Can't really blame EHOME either. Without the farm they couldn't really risk much. Without the map control the couldn't really farm, and then with EGs lineup they couldn't really get map control. It was really well done by EG


Yea I dont understand what there is to "blame". The game was very interesting to me. The movements across the map the turtling the control

The one thing i'd blame EHOME for was not commiting to their turtle choice. I believe the straw that broke their back was getting caught out with 2 heroes toplane outside of the base and losing 2 more in the ensuing panic, then spending 3 buybacks and losing 1 more to gain 1 kill on sumail.
Like, if they're going walk out of base to get caught out 30 minutes into the game, why couldn't they have tried to do something before you let EG farm the entire map for 15 minutes?


Other than that, yea. What do. Getting into that kind of position would have preferably been avoided in the first place, but EG played very well.


Yeah I agree, but the thing is its not that easy to turtle and also play catchup, especially because of the way EG played. Generally the thing your mentioning has happened because teams who were leading either drafted way to all in ish or just went CIS ham.

EG did neither. Before the game when I saw the draft from EHome looked super solid. They had everything, decent team fight good late game. They could play to any situation.

What happened was that EG simply outplayed them. Aui for example knew that they would protect the cour so he hardly even bothered to deal with and instead went for the FB which was massive at that point because Razor got far enough ahead to play that lane himself comfortably. Lanm on the other hand spent forever hugging trees. So for me its an amalgam of these little plays and nuanced decision making that was the difference between these teams.

And ofc Sumail shitting on CTY.


You mean Aui played Bounty correctly?

EG executed a preset plan really well but the onus of execution was on EHOME from the start. The draft was at least 55-45 in favour of EG and pushing 60-40 depending on an individual's opinions in certain hero match ups. There were no spectacular individual plays needed from EG and none happened unless you consider invis rune shackle shots a spectacular play.

PPD keeps everybody in their comfort zone. He sets the stage. By the time we saw SuMail solo kill after solo kill, the stage has been set for 10 minutes for that to happen.


Yes he played it correctly. But it was just an example. And please you cant sit there with your full map view and then say its easy to make those plays correctly. I dont think it was as preset as you think.

The picks were geared towards winning lanes though your right.


Go watch the game from EG vision. EHOME heroes were perma tracked.


hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
August 06 2015 08:51 GMT
#7406
On August 06 2015 17:04 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 16:46 Valhalla44 wrote:
On August 06 2015 16:25 CptMarvel wrote:
There's no denying that eastern DOTA has, historically, been a lot less entertaining than its western counterpart. It's really not surprising if you know chinese people, that's just the way they are : way too serious and not inclined to take any risk.


WEST FANBOY DETECTED :D.
I just find it funny when ppl attack eastern dota for playing boring, when this TI most attractive dota is played by chinese teams.

If only Yellow Submarine had made it to the main event

edit: PPD isn't in the allstar match? Volvo plz


its a community vote and i am pretty sure PPD has a negative amount of votes.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
August 06 2015 08:51 GMT
#7407
Wildcard team got 2.18$ mil secured. just wow.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 06 2015 08:53 GMT
#7408
On August 06 2015 16:14 Teton wrote:
I miss tidehunter picks

I miss troll 1v5 picks
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 06 2015 08:58 GMT
#7409
When you see CDEC or even MVP getting this far, then you realise the best EU hope other than Secret was Vega after all rofl
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6331 Posts
August 06 2015 08:59 GMT
#7410
On August 06 2015 17:51 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Wildcard team got 2.18$ mil secured. just wow.

Good thing Valve gave a direct invite to Newbee and not CDEC
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 06 2015 09:11 GMT
#7411
Wait EG play style is boring? Sure game 3 wasn't that exciting, but that was just draft going against EHOME heavy team fighting comp with powerful ults. EG is one of the best teams when it comes to skirmish fights and finding key picks. Game 2 was pretty damn exciting if you ask me. I mean sure they don't dive in like mad men and overthrow games like Empire aggressive, but they can play aggressive when needed.
Getting too old for this..
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
August 06 2015 09:37 GMT
#7412
I love how ppd draft so smart. Ehome got Phoenix and WR is like the ultimate counter to him.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
August 06 2015 10:38 GMT
#7413
On August 06 2015 16:25 CptMarvel wrote:
There's no denying that eastern DOTA has, historically, been a lot less entertaining than its western counterpart. It's really not surprising if you know chinese people, that's just the way they are : way too serious and not inclined to take any risk.

Over the long run, consistency beats variance.
Playgu
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 06 2015 10:52 GMT
#7414
as a Chinese person we are not serious at all...

if we are, why would Korea beat us in games
Rillanon.au
CptMarvel
Profile Joined May 2014
France236 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 11:04:48
August 06 2015 11:04 GMT
#7415
On August 06 2015 16:34 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 16:25 CptMarvel wrote:
There's no denying that eastern DOTA has, historically, been a lot less entertaining than its western counterpart. It's really not surprising if you know chinese people, that's just the way they are : way too serious and not inclined to take any risk.

Wow, so we've finally gotten to this point lol

I'd love to get in an argument with you about the problem with generalizing entire populations but seeing as youre French you'll probably just give up at start anyway


Considering I've just spent a couple of years in China, I'm afraid I know what I'm talking about. Now it's obvious there are exceptions but the vast majority of chinese people fit in the exact same pattern. That's what you get when your government focuses on destroying critical thinking.
Funny to see you all get on your high horses though.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 11:13:35
August 06 2015 11:12 GMT
#7416
It would be impossible to do well in Dota without critical thinking (or challenging authority, for that matter).

Your experience of living in China doesn't matter so much if you only see what you want to see.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 06 2015 11:39 GMT
#7417
vast majority of Chinese people do not give enough fuck about some random foreigner to show you their true nature.
Rillanon.au
Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 11:55:26
August 06 2015 11:54 GMT
#7418
On August 06 2015 16:25 CptMarvel wrote:
if you know chinese people, that's just the way they are : way too serious and not inclined to take any risk.


Did you really think about that before you hit "Post"?

edit: Read your reply. Still don't appreciate the statement, but whatever, you're set.
"It's Santa! Get him, Jesus!"
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 12:00:38
August 06 2015 12:00 GMT
#7419
So Secret probably beating VP and then losing to LGD right? Vici beats Pheonix (though my heart is rooting for MVP). VG vs eHome should be close but I think if both teams play perfect Vici should win but it'll probably be eHome (unless MVP goes crazy and rampages through them both).

Really hoping EG beats CDEC as I don't want CDEC in grand finals.
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
August 06 2015 12:29 GMT
#7420
What a disappointment to wake up to see that EG beat EHOME. After that disgusting techies pick they really deserved to get sent to the LB
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