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shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
June 06 2015 08:13 GMT
#361
On June 06 2015 17:12 parazice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 17:08 goody153 wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:06 RiZu wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:05 parazice wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:02 uriel- wrote:
VG has had a losing record against basically every other "top team" in the past few months. I won't even put them in top 5 atm.

I'm also amazed you people still bother with azarkon, he's the standard type that keeps quiet or backtracks when he is wrong and comes out to pretend he knows anything when he isn't. Learn to internet boys.


hate him or love him
but A-god is make Website alive .... and that a good thing imo (gosu not dead cuz him alone)

nah GG.net are starting to produce more of him, albeit none as good as him but it add variety. Now there are pretty much a person defending each regions.

i think we have enough china defender and western defender .. we need more sea defender like sleepydreams (IF FUCKING SEA CAN PLEASE PICK UP THEIR GAME PLS I NEED A SEA TO ROOT FOR)


SEA is all about LOL and HON or Mobile
sad but true


You forgotten about Fifa. I know pretty alot of peeps on fifa from sea.
Proud owner of Fnatic and Clutch Gamers's Discussion Page
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 08:14:12
June 06 2015 08:13 GMT
#362
On June 06 2015 17:12 Super_Style wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 17:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:07 Super_Style wrote:
Russia plays European Championships in every sport known to man, they count themselves as Europeans thus cis dota = eu dota, its that simple. Saying otherwise is like saying Canada dota isnt part of NA dota because well Canada aint USA.

CIS Dota is part of EU Dota big and often different enough to be considered a separate entity.

Yes the style is different but then by that logic EG is not NA dota its an entity for itself.

Not best comparison since EG is 1 team, while CIS dota probably has about as much teams as EU dota. And yes, EG is usually regarded as separate entity from NA dota either way.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
June 06 2015 08:14 GMT
#363
On June 06 2015 17:12 goody153 wrote:
i know that they fucking suck against top-est tier teams but please just please

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 17:10 uriel- wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:08 goody153 wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:06 RiZu wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:05 parazice wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:02 uriel- wrote:
VG has had a losing record against basically every other "top team" in the past few months. I won't even put them in top 5 atm.

I'm also amazed you people still bother with azarkon, he's the standard type that keeps quiet or backtracks when he is wrong and comes out to pretend he knows anything when he isn't. Learn to internet boys.


hate him or love him
but A-god is make Website alive .... and that a good thing imo (gosu not dead cuz him alone)

nah GG.net are starting to produce more of him, albeit none as good as him but it add variety. Now there are pretty much a person defending each regions.

i think we have enough china defender and western defender .. we need more sea defender like sleepydreams (IF FUCKING SEA CAN PLEASE PICK UP THEIR GAME PLS I NEED A SEA TO ROOT FOR)


Depends on if you count korean master race as SEA

Korea Master Team counts although i think they are CoL level or something similar


Korean doto won't go well if BIG gun like SKT or KT not join in .....
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 06 2015 08:15 GMT
#364
alright boys let's go sea dota vietnam gonna win ti6
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
June 06 2015 08:16 GMT
#365
On June 06 2015 17:15 opterown wrote:
alright boys let's go sea dota vietnam gonna win ti6

When the best Vietnam team are plagued with match-fixing, no way
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
June 06 2015 08:16 GMT
#366
I dont think its possible for SKT or KT to make Dota teams
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 08:18:55
June 06 2015 08:16 GMT
#367
On June 06 2015 17:12 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
People really love to over-analyze the nature of the teams and attribute all kinds of intricate special properties to them that no one has actually ever provided evidence of.

Anyhow, I guess I'm going to stick with 6.84 answer for VG, because it remains the only thing I have.


VG gained this reputation in 6.83 in the finals vs. EG. They reinforced it in the Bo5 vs. Empire at D2CL. They reinforced it again vs. EG and Secret at BTS 3. And again in the I-League finals vs. LGD. And again today.

I think the only finals they've won in the last, what, six months, has been that SL 12 series vs. iG.

5/6 tournaments, VG does this, it becomes not just an over-analysis, but a decent theory.
Hai1Fyre
Profile Joined May 2014
South Africa270 Posts
June 06 2015 08:17 GMT
#368
I'm hyped for a Secret - Empire Finals :D

Just need to beat Clown9
Birthdays are good for you. The more you have the longer you live!
Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
June 06 2015 08:17 GMT
#369
Typically I would say that Secret is better than C9, but Secret always under-performs on Saturdays, so C9 has this one in the bag. They'll win the whole series actually, because Empire has a horrible streak against Western teams after Chinese teams. Whenever they face western teams after beating a Chinese team, they always lose.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44192 Posts
June 06 2015 08:17 GMT
#370
On June 06 2015 17:14 parazice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 17:12 goody153 wrote:
i know that they fucking suck against top-est tier teams but please just please

On June 06 2015 17:10 uriel- wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:08 goody153 wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:06 RiZu wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:05 parazice wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:02 uriel- wrote:
VG has had a losing record against basically every other "top team" in the past few months. I won't even put them in top 5 atm.

I'm also amazed you people still bother with azarkon, he's the standard type that keeps quiet or backtracks when he is wrong and comes out to pretend he knows anything when he isn't. Learn to internet boys.


hate him or love him
but A-god is make Website alive .... and that a good thing imo (gosu not dead cuz him alone)

nah GG.net are starting to produce more of him, albeit none as good as him but it add variety. Now there are pretty much a person defending each regions.

i think we have enough china defender and western defender .. we need more sea defender like sleepydreams (IF FUCKING SEA CAN PLEASE PICK UP THEIR GAME PLS I NEED A SEA TO ROOT FOR)


Depends on if you count korean master race as SEA

Korea Master Team counts although i think they are CoL level or something similar


Korean doto won't go well if BIG gun like SKT or KT not join in .....

I don't really think training environment matters much in pro dota scene when teams like Secret/c9 or even newbee(back when they didn't slump) can still win so much stuff when they don't practice together in a teamhouse or newbee and old eg with artour/zai with the no practice at all style

when there are teams who go teamhouse and practice alot together but still shit themselves in tournaments.
this is a quote
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
June 06 2015 08:17 GMT
#371
On June 06 2015 17:16 Kuroeeah wrote:
I dont think its possible for SKT or KT to make Dota teams


ya that why i don't think KR 'll make a noise in doto like other game
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 06 2015 08:19 GMT
#372
On June 06 2015 17:16 Kuroeeah wrote:
I dont think its possible for SKT or KT to make Dota teams

they can buy out mvp teams but i don't think they can make their own home-grown talent team for a long time
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44192 Posts
June 06 2015 08:19 GMT
#373
On June 06 2015 17:17 parazice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 17:16 Kuroeeah wrote:
I dont think its possible for SKT or KT to make Dota teams


ya that why i don't think KR 'll make a noise in doto like other game

why would they play inferiormoba when they have the riot-approved superiormoba !
this is a quote
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 06 2015 08:19 GMT
#374
On June 06 2015 17:17 Hai1Fyre wrote:
I'm hyped for a Secret - Empire Finals :D

Just need to beat Clown9

Me too, it's the best match-up we can have in dota right now imo. I wonder how much they practice against each other.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
June 06 2015 08:20 GMT
#375
No as in literally impossible because of some Riot Korea imposed rule on Kespa teams rofl
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 08:21:28
June 06 2015 08:21 GMT
#376
On June 06 2015 17:17 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Typically I would say that Secret is better than C9, but Secret always under-performs on Saturdays, so C9 has this one in the bag. They'll win the whole series actually, because Empire has a horrible streak against Western teams after Chinese teams. Whenever they face western teams after beating a Chinese team, they always lose.

can't tell if serious or mocking azarkon

+ Show Spoiler +
ok i can tell but it was pretty good

also itd be hilarious if it became true
posting on liquid sites in current year
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 08:22:02
June 06 2015 08:21 GMT
#377
On June 06 2015 17:19 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 17:16 Kuroeeah wrote:
I dont think its possible for SKT or KT to make Dota teams

they can buy out mvp teams but i don't think they can make their own home-grown talent team for a long time

MVP got fucked by Samsung when they buy out their LoL team, damn this team need a break for grooming talents only to get bought out. Funny enough before World as well and obvly Karama striked.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 08:22:56
June 06 2015 08:22 GMT
#378
On June 06 2015 17:16 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 17:12 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
People really love to over-analyze the nature of the teams and attribute all kinds of intricate special properties to them that no one has actually ever provided evidence of.

Anyhow, I guess I'm going to stick with 6.84 answer for VG, because it remains the only thing I have.


VG gained this reputation in 6.83 in the finals vs. EG. They reinforced it in the Bo5 vs. Empire at D2CL. They reinforced it again vs. EG at BTS 3. And again in the I-League finals vs. LGD. And again today.

I think the only finals they've won in the last, what, six months, has been that SL 12 series vs. iG.

5/6 tournaments, VG does this, it becomes not just an over-analysis, but a decent theory.

Short List of completed LAN tournaments between DAC and 6.84 dropping:

1. StarLadder 12

2. VGP League or something (had LAN final for sure even though i think rest was online play).

3. MLG Columbus (could not even participate in it).

So, they have won 2/2 LANs they have participated in after obtaining Hao until 6.84 happened. Problems?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
beifru
Profile Joined November 2013
2164 Posts
June 06 2015 08:22 GMT
#379
On June 06 2015 17:20 Kuroeeah wrote:
No as in literally impossible because of some Riot Korea imposed rule on Kespa teams rofl


Yep, Riot compensates the teams for participating in tournaments as well. They also get advertising fees etc for skins.

LOL is pretty advanced in terms of milking esports money. Riot earns almost 10x the amount Valve does on Dota. There is absolutely no reason for Koreans to switch games.
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
June 06 2015 08:22 GMT
#380
On June 06 2015 17:17 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 17:14 parazice wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:12 goody153 wrote:
i know that they fucking suck against top-est tier teams but please just please

On June 06 2015 17:10 uriel- wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:08 goody153 wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:06 RiZu wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:05 parazice wrote:
On June 06 2015 17:02 uriel- wrote:
VG has had a losing record against basically every other "top team" in the past few months. I won't even put them in top 5 atm.

I'm also amazed you people still bother with azarkon, he's the standard type that keeps quiet or backtracks when he is wrong and comes out to pretend he knows anything when he isn't. Learn to internet boys.


hate him or love him
but A-god is make Website alive .... and that a good thing imo (gosu not dead cuz him alone)

nah GG.net are starting to produce more of him, albeit none as good as him but it add variety. Now there are pretty much a person defending each regions.

i think we have enough china defender and western defender .. we need more sea defender like sleepydreams (IF FUCKING SEA CAN PLEASE PICK UP THEIR GAME PLS I NEED A SEA TO ROOT FOR)


Depends on if you count korean master race as SEA

Korea Master Team counts although i think they are CoL level or something similar


Korean doto won't go well if BIG gun like SKT or KT not join in .....

I don't really think training environment matters much in pro dota scene when teams like Secret/c9 or even newbee(back when they didn't slump) can still win so much stuff when they don't practice together in a teamhouse or newbee and old eg with artour/zai with the no practice at all style

when there are teams who go teamhouse and practice alot together but still shit themselves in tournaments.


the problem is not training env but number of player in KR ..... if no big Name team or big name Org support doto in Kr
they won't have that number....
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