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On June 06 2015 16:54 shouldbeworking wrote:Hey even a broken clock is right twice a day. What happened at TI4 huh?
That metaphor is so bad when it comes to me.
I've been correct about 70-80% of the calls I make. Even TI 4 wasn't a total miss for me, I said 50-50 and it ended up being China favored, so what? I didn't call China to fail at TI 4.
On the other hand, what I said about iG, VG, Newbee, this year's LGD, etc. all ended up being correct. Secret too, though I'm going to allow that to pass because they did lose DAC.
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On June 06 2015 16:54 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 16:52 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
VG, a team which was quite arguably the best in the world a short time ago, has been losing a lot of games lately, not just against EG and Secret, but even teams outside of the presumed top 3 (Empire and LGD). What has been the cause of these recent lost series? I have a hard time finding any notable event that coincides other than patch 6.84. Is this patch just bad for VG? Why is VG still in the top 3? Secret, Empire, EG, in that order, are the best three teams in the world. VG has a losing record vs. all three.
They were in the presumed top 3 for a while. I was analyzing these losses as a recent event.
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On June 06 2015 16:54 goody153 wrote:You are correct about western dota being strong although you are wrong about all the shit you said about VG. You are just riding the empire win .You even called iceiceice bad lmao what does every other western player look like if iceiceice is bad Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 16:53 parazice wrote:On June 06 2015 16:50 Azarkon wrote:
And again VG loses to Empire in a BoX. The greatness of Western Doto!
Even the casters know it. ..... stop this West VS East.... it's CIS or EU or NA or CN or SEA that's just azarkon dude he's known to have a huge hate on china and huge love of the western scene also when's sea ever gonna be relevant
you never learn ..... don't talk shit with him (cuz you never win if you not nazi admin)
try to discuss with him
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On June 06 2015 16:54 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 16:52 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
VG, a team which was quite arguably the best in the world a short time ago, has been losing a lot of games lately, not just against EG and Secret, but even teams outside of the presumed top 3 (Empire and LGD). What has been the cause of these recent lost series? I have a hard time finding any notable event that coincides other than patch 6.84. Is this patch just bad for VG? Why is VG still in the top 3? Secret, Empire, EG, in that order, are the best three teams in the world. VG has a losing record vs. all three.
you forgot lgd 3-0 in i-league final last week :-
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On June 06 2015 16:57 OzVelas wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 16:54 Azarkon wrote:On June 06 2015 16:52 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
VG, a team which was quite arguably the best in the world a short time ago, has been losing a lot of games lately, not just against EG and Secret, but even teams outside of the presumed top 3 (Empire and LGD). What has been the cause of these recent lost series? I have a hard time finding any notable event that coincides other than patch 6.84. Is this patch just bad for VG? Why is VG still in the top 3? Secret, Empire, EG, in that order, are the best three teams in the world. VG has a losing record vs. all three. you forgot lgd 3-0 in i-league final last week :-
Yea, they're not even the best in China now.
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So there will really be >1 hour break now?
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shame about the vg  i was cheering for them but empire looked super solid after the first loss, i hope secret vs c9 is more closer been really liking the bone7 drafts go bone7 :D
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On June 06 2015 16:53 parazice wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 16:50 Azarkon wrote:
And again VG loses to Empire in a BoX. The greatness of Western Doto!
Even the casters know it. ..... stop this West VS East.... it's CIS or EU or NA or CN or SEA
While I agree calling Empire western Dota is a bit of a stretch it is still a fact that the most populated area of Russia is west of the Ural mountains which is the European side of Russia. The Asian side of Russia is pretty barren and not many people live there in comparison.
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On June 06 2015 16:56 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
if vg is c9 can c9 be the eg (ala dac) of this tourney?!?!?
my immortals are hoping so :D
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Vici with black were the best team in the world, just saying... hue hue hue let the hate begin.
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On June 06 2015 16:58 sweetkay wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 16:53 parazice wrote:On June 06 2015 16:50 Azarkon wrote:
And again VG loses to Empire in a BoX. The greatness of Western Doto!
Even the casters know it. ..... stop this West VS East.... it's CIS or EU or NA or CN or SEA While I agree calling Empire western Dota is a bit of a stretch it is still a fact that the most populated area of Russia is west of the Ural mountains which is the European side of Russia. The Asian side of Russia is pretty barren and not many people live there in comparison.
sure but saying that part of europe is similar enough to be grouped with western europe is still a huge stretch
its like calling all of the sea scene chinese dota because they're part of eastern asia
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Although I have to say this about Empire specifically: They are amazing in their ability to beat the best teams and lose to the worst teams. I joke (only a half joke, really) that how Empire works is that they have a 50% chance of winning every series. 50% chance of beating Secret. 50% chance of beat Scaryfacezz. 50% chance of beating EG. 50% chance of beating Void Boys. XD
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On June 06 2015 16:54 goody153 wrote:You are correct about western dota being strong although you are wrong about all the shit you said about VG. You are just riding the empire win .You even called iceiceice bad lmao what does every other western player look like if iceiceice is bad Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 16:53 parazice wrote:On June 06 2015 16:50 Azarkon wrote:
And again VG loses to Empire in a BoX. The greatness of Western Doto!
Even the casters know it. ..... stop this West VS East.... it's CIS or EU or NA or CN or SEA that's just azarkon dude he's known to have a huge hate on china and huge love of the western scene also when's sea ever gonna be relevant
One day I believe, when the sea is right and ripe. The people of sea will unite into one, and take the crown.
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On June 06 2015 16:58 sweetkay wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 16:53 parazice wrote:On June 06 2015 16:50 Azarkon wrote:
And again VG loses to Empire in a BoX. The greatness of Western Doto!
Even the casters know it. ..... stop this West VS East.... it's CIS or EU or NA or CN or SEA While I agree calling Empire western Dota is a bit of a stretch it is still a fact that the most populated area of Russia is west of the Ural mountains which is the European side of Russia. The Asian side of Russia is pretty barren and not many people live there in comparison.
buddy it's not actually more about geographical location since it doesn't make sense to group up EU and NA that way
it's just that EAST = sea+ china and West = CIS + NA + EU .. it's more like cause those under the group play together and each other more
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On June 06 2015 16:58 sweetkay wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 16:53 parazice wrote:On June 06 2015 16:50 Azarkon wrote:
And again VG loses to Empire in a BoX. The greatness of Western Doto!
Even the casters know it. ..... stop this West VS East.... it's CIS or EU or NA or CN or SEA While I agree calling Empire western Dota is a bit of a stretch it is still a fact that the most populated area of Russia is west of the Ural mountains which is the European side of Russia. The Asian side of Russia is pretty barren and not many people live there in comparison.
and that why i hate this topic
look in the past...
when EG vs Navi ----> NA or EU best doto ...bla bla
or Navi vs A ----> EU or CIS best doto ...bla bla
and the list go on....
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On June 06 2015 16:56 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 16:54 shouldbeworking wrote:On June 06 2015 16:52 Azarkon wrote:
I so love to be correct about a team. Hey even a broken clock is right twice a day. What happened at TI4 huh? the same could be said about ti4 though 
Exactly my point. Saying X continent's play style is better than X is meaningless. All it takes is some sick strategy to come out in a middle of a tournament and even heavy favorites would lose. The beauty of Dota.
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VG has had a losing record against basically every other "top team" in the past few months. I won't even put them in top 5 atm.
I'm also amazed you people still bother with azarkon, he's the standard type that keeps quiet or backtracks when he is wrong and comes out to pretend he knows anything when he isn't. Learn to internet boys.
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On June 06 2015 16:59 Super_Style wrote:
Vici with black were the best team in the world, just saying... hue hue hue let the hate begin.
Pre-6.84 Vici with Hao were by far best team in the world.
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The problem with separating CIS Dota from EU Dota is that these teams attend the same tournaments, practice against each other in the same online cups/scrims, and a lot of Russians even play on EU so you don't know where one scene ends and the other begins.
NA Dota is easier to separate from EU/CIS Dota because the pings make it difficult for NA teams to scrim and play EU teams daily, but when it comes to East vs. West, there is only one West, no CIS/EU/NA.
I do think it's logical to talk about EU/CIS Dota vs. NA Dota vs. Chinese Dota vs. SEA Dota vs. Korean Dota, but the standard match up built up by casters, fans, etc. is East vs. West.
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On June 06 2015 17:02 uriel- wrote:
VG has had a losing record against basically every other "top team" in the past few months. I won't even put them in top 5 atm.
I'm also amazed you people still bother with azarkon, he's the standard type that keeps quiet or backtracks when he is wrong and comes out to pretend he knows anything when he isn't. Learn to internet boys.
hate him or love him
but A-god is make Website alive .... and that a good thing imo (gosu not dead cuz him alone)
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