On October 04 2014 19:22 Unattended Cake wrote:
Settle the debate once and for all?
Settle the debate once and for all?
Who is better rat? Bulldog ofc.
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40188 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:22 Unattended Cake wrote: Settle the debate once and for all? Who is better rat? Bulldog ofc. | ||
lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:21 Zea! wrote: Is it going to start soon? wouldnt be surprised if c9 need to grab a sandwich/water and piss after all the dota they've done | ||
gLhF.Revere
978 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote: On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote: Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all. black was on point. ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak. VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating Black wasn't on point at all. Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast. Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams). Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so). For the next couple of series Cloud9 >>> Alliance Newbee >>> Cloud9 IMO Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice). VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen. | ||
lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote: On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote: On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote: Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all. black was on point. ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak. VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating Black wasn't on point at all. Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast. Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams). Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so). For the next couple of series Cloud9 >>> Alliance Newbee >>> Cloud9 IMO Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice). VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen. Newbee would be a chinese dream team if they had someone to yell at them again. Chuan? | ||
goody153
44085 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:22 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:22 Unattended Cake wrote: On October 04 2014 19:21 Mensol wrote: Terror Blade pick plx. Naga vs Terror PLX. Settle the debate once and for all? Who is better rat? Bulldog ofc. Naga has the strongest spirit of the rat. Terrorblade is totally gonna get rekt. On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote: On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote: On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote: Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all. black was on point. ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak. VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating Black wasn't on point at all. Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast. Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams). Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so). For the next couple of series Cloud9 >>> Alliance Newbee >>> Cloud9 IMO Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice). VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen. That's asking a bit too much . It's like asking team secret to have a better offlane than fly. and also different teams are different teams. The greatest teams in dota is not about having an all-star lineup but rather in having a great team synergy and mind behind it. | ||
Unattended Cake
United States877 Posts
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Entropic
Canada2837 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:27 lolnoty wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote: On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote: On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote: Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all. black was on point. ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak. VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating Black wasn't on point at all. Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast. Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams). Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so). For the next couple of series Cloud9 >>> Alliance Newbee >>> Cloud9 IMO Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice). VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen. Newbee would be a chinese dream team if they had someone to yell at them again. Chuan? Seriously... newbee is back to their YOLO tongfu days without the director to guide them Ok boys this is what I want to see C9 1st pick TB Alliance 2nd pick Naga+Furion | ||
ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote: On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote: On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote: Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all. black was on point. ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak. VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating Black wasn't on point at all. Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast. Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams). Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so). For the next couple of series Cloud9 >>> Alliance Newbee >>> Cloud9 IMO Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice). VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen. nowadays, Super>Ferrari imo. | ||
Demand2k
Norway875 Posts
- C9 stomps - Alliance stomps - C9 win early game and throws. Let the dice roll | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
Meanwhile MVP Phoenix are getting smashed by RAVE of all teams. | ||
Unattended Cake
United States877 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:40 KristofferAG wrote: Game seems to be up. Meanwhile MVP Phoenix are getting smashed by RAVE of all teams. I glanced at the preview in the Twitch directory and figured it would go all wrong for MVP by the first 4 picks on both teams. | ||
goody153
44085 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:37 Entropic wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:27 lolnoty wrote: On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote: On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote: On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote: Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all. black was on point. ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak. VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating Black wasn't on point at all. Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast. Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams). Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so). For the next couple of series Cloud9 >>> Alliance Newbee >>> Cloud9 IMO Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice). VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen. Newbee would be a chinese dream team if they had someone to yell at them again. Chuan? Seriously... newbee is back to their YOLO tongfu days without the director to guide them Ok boys this is what I want to see C9 1st pick TB + Batrider Alliance 2nd pick Naga+Furion ftfy we need a bone7 and adb grudgematch not just loda vs EE | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:40 KristofferAG wrote: Game seems to be up. Meanwhile MVP Phoenix are getting smashed by RAVE of all teams. RAVE performed pretty well at i-League so it isn't an absolute shock. | ||
goody153
44085 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:40 KristofferAG wrote: Game seems to be up. Meanwhile MVP Phoenix are getting smashed by RAVE of all teams. Rave beat Team Malaysia a couple of days ago for ticket to starladder 10 | ||
Unattended Cake
United States877 Posts
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RavemasterZ
118 Posts
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gLhF.Revere
978 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:37 ForTehDarkseid wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote: On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote: On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote: Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all. black was on point. ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak. VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating Black wasn't on point at all. Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast. Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams). Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so). For the next couple of series Cloud9 >>> Alliance Newbee >>> Cloud9 IMO Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice). VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen. nowadays, Super>Ferrari imo. Only on Death Prophet and maybe Razor, imo. Ferrari plays a much better Ember and infinitely better Invoker/Brew/Puck. | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40188 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:43 RavemasterZ wrote: Alliance Naga, C9 lost TB banned? | ||
Mensol
14536 Posts
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Unattended Cake
United States877 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:44 lolfail9001 wrote: TB banned? By C9. | ||
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