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Alliance vs Cloud 9 game 3 is being played on LAN. As such only the Chinese broadcasters at the event can stream the games. BTS and Starladder has chosen to stop streaming as they could not get the Chinese stream to work smoothly.

Chinese stream: http://www.liquiddota.com/stream/9704
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 04 2014 10:22 GMT
#961
On October 04 2014 19:22 Unattended Cake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:21 Mensol wrote:
Terror Blade pick plx.

Naga vs Terror PLX.


Settle the debate once and for all?

Who is better rat? Bulldog ofc.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
October 04 2014 10:23 GMT
#962
On October 04 2014 19:21 Zea! wrote:
Is it going to start soon?


wouldnt be surprised if c9 need to grab a sandwich/water and piss after all the dota they've done
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
gLhF.Revere
Profile Joined September 2012
978 Posts
October 04 2014 10:23 GMT
#963
On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote:
Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even

Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all.


black was on point.
ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak.
VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance

VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating


Black wasn't on point at all.

Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast.

Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams).


Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad

Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so).

For the next couple of series

Cloud9 >>> Alliance
Newbee >>> Cloud9

IMO


Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice).

VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
October 04 2014 10:27 GMT
#964
On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote:
Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even

Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all.


black was on point.
ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak.
VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance

VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating


Black wasn't on point at all.

Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast.

Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams).


Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad

Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so).

For the next couple of series

Cloud9 >>> Alliance
Newbee >>> Cloud9

IMO


Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice).

VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen.


Newbee would be a chinese dream team if they had someone to yell at them again. Chuan?
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 10:31:22
October 04 2014 10:29 GMT
#965
On October 04 2014 19:22 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:22 Unattended Cake wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:21 Mensol wrote:
Terror Blade pick plx.

Naga vs Terror PLX.


Settle the debate once and for all?

Who is better rat? Bulldog ofc.


Naga has the strongest spirit of the rat.

Terrorblade is totally gonna get rekt.

On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote:
Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even

Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all.


black was on point.
ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak.
VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance

VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating


Black wasn't on point at all.

Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast.

Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams).


Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad

Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so).

For the next couple of series

Cloud9 >>> Alliance
Newbee >>> Cloud9

IMO


Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice).

VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen.

That's asking a bit too much . It's like asking team secret to have a better offlane than fly.

and also different teams are different teams. The greatest teams in dota is not about having an all-star lineup but rather in having a great team synergy and mind behind it.
this is a quote
Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
October 04 2014 10:37 GMT
#966
All the players are in the lobby~
"It's Santa! Get him, Jesus!"
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 10:38:12
October 04 2014 10:37 GMT
#967
On October 04 2014 19:27 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote:
Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even

Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all.


black was on point.
ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak.
VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance

VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating


Black wasn't on point at all.

Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast.

Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams).


Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad

Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so).

For the next couple of series

Cloud9 >>> Alliance
Newbee >>> Cloud9

IMO


Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice).

VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen.


Newbee would be a chinese dream team if they had someone to yell at them again. Chuan?


Seriously... newbee is back to their YOLO tongfu days without the director to guide them

Ok boys this is what I want to see

C9 1st pick TB
Alliance 2nd pick Naga+Furion
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
October 04 2014 10:37 GMT
#968
On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote:
Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even

Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all.


black was on point.
ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak.
VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance

VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating


Black wasn't on point at all.

Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast.

Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams).


Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad

Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so).

For the next couple of series

Cloud9 >>> Alliance
Newbee >>> Cloud9

IMO


Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice).

VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen.

nowadays, Super>Ferrari imo.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
October 04 2014 10:38 GMT
#969
Okay so we have three possible scenarios for the upcoming dota classic:
- C9 stomps
- Alliance stomps
- C9 win early game and throws.

Let the dice roll
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
October 04 2014 10:40 GMT
#970
Game seems to be up.

Meanwhile MVP Phoenix are getting smashed by RAVE of all teams.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
October 04 2014 10:41 GMT
#971
On October 04 2014 19:40 KristofferAG wrote:
Game seems to be up.

Meanwhile MVP Phoenix are getting smashed by RAVE of all teams.


I glanced at the preview in the Twitch directory and figured it would go all wrong for MVP by the first 4 picks on both teams.
"It's Santa! Get him, Jesus!"
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
October 04 2014 10:41 GMT
#972
On October 04 2014 19:37 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:27 lolnoty wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote:
Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even

Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all.


black was on point.
ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak.
VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance

VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating


Black wasn't on point at all.

Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast.

Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams).


Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad

Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so).

For the next couple of series

Cloud9 >>> Alliance
Newbee >>> Cloud9

IMO


Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice).

VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen.


Newbee would be a chinese dream team if they had someone to yell at them again. Chuan?


Seriously... newbee is back to their YOLO tongfu days without the director to guide them

Ok boys this is what I want to see

C9 1st pick TB + Batrider
Alliance 2nd pick Naga+Furion

ftfy

we need a bone7 and adb grudgematch

not just loda vs EE
this is a quote
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
October 04 2014 10:41 GMT
#973
On October 04 2014 19:40 KristofferAG wrote:
Game seems to be up.

Meanwhile MVP Phoenix are getting smashed by RAVE of all teams.

RAVE performed pretty well at i-League so it isn't an absolute shock.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
October 04 2014 10:42 GMT
#974
On October 04 2014 19:40 KristofferAG wrote:
Game seems to be up.

Meanwhile MVP Phoenix are getting smashed by RAVE of all teams.

Rave beat Team Malaysia a couple of days ago for ticket to starladder 10
this is a quote
Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
October 04 2014 10:42 GMT
#975
Don't Skywrath into Void.
"It's Santa! Get him, Jesus!"
RavemasterZ
Profile Joined September 2012
118 Posts
October 04 2014 10:43 GMT
#976
Alliance Naga, C9 lost
gLhF.Revere
Profile Joined September 2012
978 Posts
October 04 2014 10:43 GMT
#977
On October 04 2014 19:37 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote:
Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even

Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all.


black was on point.
ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak.
VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance

VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating


Black wasn't on point at all.

Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast.

Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams).


Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad

Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so).

For the next couple of series

Cloud9 >>> Alliance
Newbee >>> Cloud9

IMO


Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice).

VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen.

nowadays, Super>Ferrari imo.


Only on Death Prophet and maybe Razor, imo. Ferrari plays a much better Ember and infinitely better Invoker/Brew/Puck.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 04 2014 10:44 GMT
#978
On October 04 2014 19:43 RavemasterZ wrote:
Alliance Naga, C9 lost

TB banned?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
October 04 2014 10:44 GMT
#979
May the best Rat wins.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
October 04 2014 10:44 GMT
#980
On October 04 2014 19:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:43 RavemasterZ wrote:
Alliance Naga, C9 lost

TB banned?


By C9.
"It's Santa! Get him, Jesus!"
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