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Alliance vs Cloud 9 game 3 is being played on LAN. As such only the Chinese broadcasters at the event can stream the games. BTS and Starladder has chosen to stop streaming as they could not get the Chinese stream to work smoothly.

Chinese stream: http://www.liquiddota.com/stream/9704
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 10:52:52
October 04 2014 10:52 GMT
#1001
On October 04 2014 19:52 kirsed wrote:
What's happening.

grudgematch into greed into melt every illusion in the map
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 04 2014 10:53 GMT
#1002
On October 04 2014 19:52 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Pls no Skadi first EE.

Ember?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
October 04 2014 10:53 GMT
#1003
i was expecting spectre

envy's ember spirit is.... bad

not sure about how FATA is on the hero
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
October 04 2014 10:53 GMT
#1004
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 04 2014 10:53 GMT
#1005
On October 04 2014 19:53 Nymzee wrote:
i was expecting spectre

envy's ember spirit is.... bad

not sure about how FATA is on the hero

EE went Skadi first on Ember

Fata went Vanguard first.

Just so you can compare
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 04 2014 10:53 GMT
#1006
On October 04 2014 19:53 kirsed wrote:
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You done screwed up ES with ES.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
RavemasterZ
Profile Joined September 2012
118 Posts
October 04 2014 10:53 GMT
#1007
Envy razor Fata ember much better
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 10:54:40
October 04 2014 10:54 GMT
#1008
On October 04 2014 19:53 Nymzee wrote:
i was expecting spectre

envy's ember spirit is.... bad

not sure about how FATA is on the hero

spectre would get rekt by naga .. naga literally has to wait till spectre haunts then press the sleep button

fata plays a good ember

like every other mid hero he plays .. assuming he doesn't buy you know mek
this is a quote
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
October 04 2014 10:54 GMT
#1009
On October 04 2014 19:53 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:53 Nymzee wrote:
i was expecting spectre

envy's ember spirit is.... bad

not sure about how FATA is on the hero

EE went Skadi first on Ember

Fata went Vanguard first.

Just so you can compare


I think crimson guard might be legit on Ember over drums
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
October 04 2014 10:54 GMT
#1010
Alliance lineup is really thin.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
October 04 2014 10:54 GMT
#1011
On October 04 2014 19:53 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:53 Nymzee wrote:
i was expecting spectre

envy's ember spirit is.... bad

not sure about how FATA is on the hero

EE went Skadi first on Ember

Fata went Vanguard first.

Just so you can compare


Takes literally NO damage from Veno wards!
"It's Santa! Get him, Jesus!"
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
October 04 2014 10:54 GMT
#1012
On October 04 2014 19:53 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:53 Nymzee wrote:
i was expecting spectre

envy's ember spirit is.... bad

not sure about how FATA is on the hero

EE went Skadi first on Ember

Fata went Vanguard first.

Just so you can compare

... well i mean at least you have crimson guard vs plague wards eventually... ?

but yeah, not sure about this pick lol
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 04 2014 10:54 GMT
#1013
On October 04 2014 19:54 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:53 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:53 Nymzee wrote:
i was expecting spectre

envy's ember spirit is.... bad

not sure about how FATA is on the hero

EE went Skadi first on Ember

Fata went Vanguard first.

Just so you can compare


I think crimson guard might be legit on Ember over drums

Both are trash tho, that's the point. Also, you are comparing 1.8k bad item with 3.8k situational/situationally bad item.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 04 2014 10:54 GMT
#1014
Fata's ember is bad.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 10:58:33
October 04 2014 10:55 GMT
#1015
On October 04 2014 19:43 gLhF.Revere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:37 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote:
Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even

Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all.


black was on point.
ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak.
VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance

VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating


Black wasn't on point at all.

Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast.

Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams).


Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad

Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so).

For the next couple of series

Cloud9 >>> Alliance
Newbee >>> Cloud9

IMO


Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice).

VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen.

nowadays, Super>Ferrari imo.


Only on Death Prophet and maybe Razor, imo. Ferrari plays a much better Ember and infinitely better Invoker/Brew/Puck.

Super doesn't play Puck, like at all. He seems to be more versatile and a faster learning mid though.

I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
October 04 2014 10:55 GMT
#1016
Chen is definitely a hero you want for these pre-horn engagements.
"It's Santa! Get him, Jesus!"
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 04 2014 10:55 GMT
#1017
On October 04 2014 19:55 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:43 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:37 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote:
Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even

Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all.


black was on point.
ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak.
VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance

VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating


Black wasn't on point at all.

Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast.

Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams).


Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad

Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so).

For the next couple of series

Cloud9 >>> Alliance
Newbee >>> Cloud9

IMO


Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice).

VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen.

nowadays, Super>Ferrari imo.


Only on Death Prophet and maybe Razor, imo. Ferrari plays a much better Ember and infinitely better Invoker/Brew/Puck.

Super doesn't play Puck like at all)

Well lim (t->0) constant/t = infinity, so this statement is technically true.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
October 04 2014 10:56 GMT
#1018
On October 04 2014 19:53 lolfail9001 wrote:
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You done screwed up ES with ES.


God damn it I do that like 50% of the time.
mjxn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia939 Posts
October 04 2014 10:56 GMT
#1019
I was hoping for KotL/PL to go against the Naga
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
October 04 2014 10:57 GMT
#1020
On October 04 2014 19:56 mjxn wrote:
I was hoping for KotL/PL to go against the Naga

too bad PL is no longer available for CM

we can have TB as an alternative
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