On October 04 2014 19:52 kirsed wrote:
What's happening.
What's happening.
grudgematch into greed into melt every illusion in the map
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Alliance vs Cloud 9 game 3 is being played on LAN. As such only the Chinese broadcasters at the event can stream the games. BTS and Starladder has chosen to stop streaming as they could not get the Chinese stream to work smoothly. Chinese stream: http://www.liquiddota.com/stream/9704 | ||
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goody153
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On October 04 2014 19:52 kirsed wrote: What's happening. grudgematch into greed into melt every illusion in the map | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:52 PhoenixVoid wrote: Pls no Skadi first EE. Ember? | ||
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Nymzee
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envy's ember spirit is.... bad not sure about how FATA is on the hero | ||
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Kirsed
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:53 Nymzee wrote: i was expecting spectre envy's ember spirit is.... bad not sure about how FATA is on the hero EE went Skadi first on Ember Fata went Vanguard first. Just so you can compare ![]() | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
You done screwed up ES with ES. | ||
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RavemasterZ
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goody153
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On October 04 2014 19:53 Nymzee wrote: i was expecting spectre envy's ember spirit is.... bad not sure about how FATA is on the hero spectre would get rekt by naga .. naga literally has to wait till spectre haunts then press the sleep button fata plays a good ember like every other mid hero he plays .. assuming he doesn't buy you know mek | ||
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Entropic
Canada2837 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:53 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:53 Nymzee wrote: i was expecting spectre envy's ember spirit is.... bad not sure about how FATA is on the hero EE went Skadi first on Ember Fata went Vanguard first. Just so you can compare ![]() I think crimson guard might be legit on Ember over drums | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
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Unattended Cake
United States877 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:53 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:53 Nymzee wrote: i was expecting spectre envy's ember spirit is.... bad not sure about how FATA is on the hero EE went Skadi first on Ember Fata went Vanguard first. Just so you can compare ![]() Takes literally NO damage from Veno wards! | ||
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Nymzee
3929 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:53 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:53 Nymzee wrote: i was expecting spectre envy's ember spirit is.... bad not sure about how FATA is on the hero EE went Skadi first on Ember Fata went Vanguard first. Just so you can compare ![]() ... well i mean at least you have crimson guard vs plague wards eventually... ? but yeah, not sure about this pick lol | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:54 Entropic wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:53 lolfail9001 wrote: On October 04 2014 19:53 Nymzee wrote: i was expecting spectre envy's ember spirit is.... bad not sure about how FATA is on the hero EE went Skadi first on Ember Fata went Vanguard first. Just so you can compare ![]() I think crimson guard might be legit on Ember over drums Both are trash tho, that's the point. Also, you are comparing 1.8k bad item with 3.8k situational/situationally bad item. | ||
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DucK-
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ForTehDarkseid
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On October 04 2014 19:43 gLhF.Revere wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:37 ForTehDarkseid wrote: On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote: On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote: On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote: Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all. black was on point. ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak. VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating Black wasn't on point at all. Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast. Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams). Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so). For the next couple of series Cloud9 >>> Alliance Newbee >>> Cloud9 IMO Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice). VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen. nowadays, Super>Ferrari imo. Only on Death Prophet and maybe Razor, imo. Ferrari plays a much better Ember and infinitely better Invoker/Brew/Puck. Super doesn't play Puck, like at all. He seems to be more versatile and a faster learning mid though. | ||
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Unattended Cake
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:55 ForTehDarkseid wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2014 19:43 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:37 ForTehDarkseid wrote: On October 04 2014 19:23 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:11 Entropic wrote: On October 04 2014 19:09 gLhF.Revere wrote: On October 04 2014 19:01 evanthebouncy! wrote: On October 04 2014 18:59 Entropic wrote: Ban Lich instead of Naga... I don't even Also I don't see how it was Black's fault VG lost this series at all. black was on point. ice3 was off I think, he didn't win the lane vs panda and this caused the supports to rotate to help, which left super weak. VG had a great tri-core lineup with razor/void/OD and in the end only OD is of any relevance VG lined up black's sheep, super's bkb and geared up for a push bot lane but ice3 was too quick on the finger and chrono Fata. That was supposed to be the fight that turns the game, but it ended 0-4 disaster. Meh ice3 so frustrating Black wasn't on point at all. Iceiceice blew his chrono on Nyx without getting a kill because Black hesitated and then failed to astral when Nyx carapaced. This lead to VG's top lane getting wrecked without chrono support. Black went sheep immediately after force instead of BKB which mean that one Nyx burn dropped him to half hp. And don't remind me how few Black actually used because he got stunned before cast. Sure, Iceiceice played awful but the fails were strong with all of the VG players (not so much Fy/Fenrir except for their wasteful roams). Everyone on VG pretty much played bad and the team as a whole played bad Therefore kick black (not saying you are saying that but a lot of people seem to think so). For the next couple of series Cloud9 >>> Alliance Newbee >>> Cloud9 IMO Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to kick Black. But I do think the key problems of VG lies in its inflexible drafts and its player instabilities (namely Black, Super and Iceiceice). VG would be a Chinese dream team (without poaching NB players) if it was Sylar instead of Black and Ferrari instead of Super. Too bad that won't happen. nowadays, Super>Ferrari imo. Only on Death Prophet and maybe Razor, imo. Ferrari plays a much better Ember and infinitely better Invoker/Brew/Puck. Super doesn't play Puck like at all) Well lim (t->0) constant/t = infinity, so this statement is technically true. | ||
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Kirsed
9380 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:53 lolfail9001 wrote: You done screwed up ES with ES. God damn it I do that like 50% of the time. | ||
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mjxn
Australia939 Posts
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goody153
44236 Posts
On October 04 2014 19:56 mjxn wrote: I was hoping for KotL/PL to go against the Naga ![]() too bad PL is no longer available for CM we can have TB as an alternative | ||
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