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Please stop the caster bashing. You can disagree with them and post about it but posts that only serve to bash casters senselessly will be actioned.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
July 20 2014 18:47 GMT
#1841
Kunka and slark ban... why not ban the centaur?
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 20 2014 18:47 GMT
#1842
what is surprising with lgd along with their current run is how Yao setting up a perfect example for upcomers rabbit and lin. LGD's future looks bright
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 20 2014 18:47 GMT
#1843
On July 21 2014 03:46 Zea! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 03:42 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Am I a terrible person because I don't give 2 shits about a single Chinese team? Im behind my home NA teams 100%, and even like a lot of the euro teams, but I feel absolutely nothing for Chinese teams. I decided to go put together new furniture instead of watching this series. =(


Well, i'm just interested in LGD's Cinderella story :D


http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/ti4/461361-ti4-lgd-gaming-for-the-dream
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
CherryNubCakes
Profile Joined July 2012
United States972 Posts
July 20 2014 18:47 GMT
#1844
On July 21 2014 03:46 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 03:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:42 CherryNubCakes wrote:
I didn't know that Yao has been at every TI, what team was he on at TI1?


Nirvana.CN

he used another nickname at that time - xiaoD

Is that why I've sometimes heard him called Yaodi?
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-20 18:48:32
July 20 2014 18:47 GMT
#1845
On July 21 2014 03:39 Ravensong170 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 03:36 wuhan_clan wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:33 Asha` wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:32 icystorage wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:31 Zea! wrote:
Btw, most predictable TI ever, with only Chinese + EG top 4. Well, only real upset could be if the mighty LGD pull it through

did you predict alliance not pulling thru the group stage?


didn't everybody

only surprise is IG blowing it.


Are you kidding me? If anyone honestly though Alliance would drop out in the group stage they were just clueless about Dota. Yeah Alliance were not doing so hot prior to TI4 but none of the recent results gave any indication they would have been THAT bad.

Overall TI4 has been the most unpredictable TI and its not even close. Anyone claiming otherwise is just straight retarded.


A lo of people probably saw them not making it through. All you gotta do is ban NP and Wisp and you can see the end result. It was obvious from day one they had no chance of doing anything in this tournament


I think it was the opposite , because every one knew that you must ban NP/IO , they had draft advantage as they could secure the meta best heroes, thats why ppl gave them a good chance to get into the playoffs (at least) , but as it turned out , they still dont play the meta heroes properly (never pick Tide offlane is crazy) , also i think they shouldve went with Naga against the weaker teams and try and play late game dota .(only picked her once).
Ravensong170 , i usually disagree with wuhan... but this time i cant agree with everyone knowing alliance going to be out in the group stages... 10 teams progressing is a BIG numebr with a starting of 16 ......
i really believed they had something to counter or use in this meta as they knew every game what will be banned against them..... dissapointed , almost stopped watchin TI i must admit....

synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
July 20 2014 18:48 GMT
#1846
are we gonna see some void or centaur + invoker :o
:)
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
July 20 2014 18:48 GMT
#1847
DK picking PA + AA the dream.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 20 2014 18:48 GMT
#1848
On July 21 2014 03:47 CherryNubCakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 03:46 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:42 CherryNubCakes wrote:
I didn't know that Yao has been at every TI, what team was he on at TI1?


Nirvana.CN

he used another nickname at that time - xiaoD

Is that why I've sometimes heard him called Yaodi?


yao di is yao emperor
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Khylol
Profile Joined June 2014
United States279 Posts
July 20 2014 18:48 GMT
#1849
Please DK salvage this TI for me

I might not be loyal to you but come on, you don't need it, you're fucking DK

now kill them all
"I basically just do manga shit so fuck off." - EternaLEnVy // youtube.com/kyluls
Ravensong170
Profile Joined June 2012
United States858 Posts
July 20 2014 18:48 GMT
#1850
On July 21 2014 03:39 Iceman331 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 03:38 bagels21 wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:35 Kabras wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:32 Khylol wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:29 Count9 wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:26 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:26 Count9 wrote:
Thank you for the lvl 1 rosh call EE. EEzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz game


EE being kicked from team in the great shuffle incoming

There's no way C9 stay together. EE said he's gonna disappear from dota after TI for a while, Aui has always seemed like he only played support temporarily, and sing basically said anyone not in top 3 are going to disband. W/e, they have enough money to take their time and find a good team after the post-TI break.

Anyways, let's go DK and EG.


You're going to have to source realllllyyyyy fucking hard on envy saying that because i've watched every interview he's ever done and etc and haven't heard anything like that

ye, same for me, i never heard him say he's gonna disappear. he said he'll take like a 2 week break to go to japan with lumi, but that's it. and they have every reason to stay together after this TI. 6th place is pretty good, if anyone has to disband/break up it's gonna be navi, ig, fnatic, not c9.


I also just don't see them reforming in another team. Maybe bone7, but AUI/EE are really good friends and Sing's found his niche with this team. I think they genuinely like each other


Somehow I don't think sing's niche is carrying a t2 carry to top 8 at TI.


You really don't watch their games much do you ? C9 is famous for drafting teams that lack a HARD farming hero. Envy plays doom and Invoker and drow very commonly and his job in those roles isn't to outfarm every game. They don't play a 4 protect 1 strat. They play multi core lineups, even quad core lineups where farm is pretty evenly distributed. They don't rely on one player to get overwhelming farm advantage like many other teams do. Also PLD is the captain. Envy drafts. Not every in game decision is on him.

People seem to love to hate envy for some reason....

Also Following your logic you can say Artz is carrying a T3 carry(mason) to top 3 but That would also be a stupid statement.


"what a terrible ass game, we should all kill ourselves." -EE-Sama
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 20 2014 18:48 GMT
#1851
On July 21 2014 03:48 synapse wrote:
are we gonna see some void or centaur + invoker :o

invoker banned, yeah?
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
July 20 2014 18:48 GMT
#1852
On July 21 2014 03:48 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 03:48 synapse wrote:
are we gonna see some void or centaur + invoker :o

invoker banned, yeah?

oopsies
:)
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
July 20 2014 18:49 GMT
#1853
come on dk. i wanna see u in the finals
FTD
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 20 2014 18:49 GMT
#1854
On July 21 2014 03:43 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 03:39 Iceman331 wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:38 bagels21 wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:35 Kabras wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:32 Khylol wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:29 Count9 wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:26 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2014 03:26 Count9 wrote:
Thank you for the lvl 1 rosh call EE. EEzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz game


EE being kicked from team in the great shuffle incoming

There's no way C9 stay together. EE said he's gonna disappear from dota after TI for a while, Aui has always seemed like he only played support temporarily, and sing basically said anyone not in top 3 are going to disband. W/e, they have enough money to take their time and find a good team after the post-TI break.

Anyways, let's go DK and EG.


You're going to have to source realllllyyyyy fucking hard on envy saying that because i've watched every interview he's ever done and etc and haven't heard anything like that

ye, same for me, i never heard him say he's gonna disappear. he said he'll take like a 2 week break to go to japan with lumi, but that's it. and they have every reason to stay together after this TI. 6th place is pretty good, if anyone has to disband/break up it's gonna be navi, ig, fnatic, not c9.


I also just don't see them reforming in another team. Maybe bone7, but AUI/EE are really good friends and Sing's found his niche with this team. I think they genuinely like each other


Somehow I don't think sing's niche is carrying a t2 carry to top 8 at TI.


honestly it's the western scene that really bashes on envy. EE is actually really well respected by the Chinese and you can't deny how much of an impact he's had on this team whether it's through drafting/strategy or just through assembling the players. People forget how "bad" Sing looked before he joined Kaipi and how Aui almost wanted to retire. EE farms really well for the way C9 plays in that they sacrifice him a lot of times so the others can get farm. Also top 8 at this TI was incredibly hard. (something Alliance couldn't do) and he was integral in several of the matches. (The last meepo match, his doom was on point and won them several teamfights along with bone7)

It's easy to figure out how good a carry is, just make an imaginary all star team and see how many people you'd take over envy. Being result focused is like saying synderen was top 2 mid in the west when mtw was rolling teams. Envy is somewhat like synd in that there's other things he provides more than just in game skill and have had success but there's no reason to pretend he's better (or worse) than he really is at his position based off just results and not look at in game play.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
July 20 2014 18:49 GMT
#1855
wraithking?

W E L O S T B O Y S
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 20 2014 18:49 GMT
#1856
YOLO KING MY FAVORITE
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
juff
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore4659 Posts
July 20 2014 18:49 GMT
#1857
i wonder if burning will be inspired by his abaddon yesterday, haha
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 20 2014 18:49 GMT
#1858
fuck

wraith king.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 20 2014 18:49 GMT
#1859
On July 21 2014 03:49 ref4 wrote:
wraithking?

W E L O S T B O Y S


Sand King arrived. Battle of the two kings.
Dear Sixsmith...
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
July 20 2014 18:49 GMT
#1860
that yao haircut will win.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
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