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On July 21 2014 10:49 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:47 opterown wrote:On July 21 2014 10:46 Plansix wrote: What if both teams just keep death balling into eachother over and over. That would be pretty good. All team fights all the time. All ults with low cooldowns. VG Newbee game 2 was rated super highly and was like this Yeah, I am warming up to VG. Also interested in seeing what the new "meta patch" looks like after this TI. Icefrog is never happy with his creation. Never happy.
Well... Earth Spirit's pick/ban voice was made and implemented in Captains Mode...
Sooooo....
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On July 21 2014 10:50 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:47 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:46 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:42 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:39 Vertical wrote:On July 21 2014 10:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:36 Kipsate wrote:On July 21 2014 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote: [quote]
Vocal minorities Kipsate. Most people like the aggro style I think.
Also it's getting a good mix, people start to hate things after they see nothing but the same thing over and over. This is the exact same style that Na`Vi got popular with in terms of playstyle, heavy aggressive heroes with emphasis on 5man teamfighting, kill you under your tower, take your tower. Thats Na`Vi's style and people don't get bored of that because its Na`Vi, its not about the playstyle, its about the teams. Lived through Stephano 2012 and infestor/broodlords. Can confirm. but stephano still gains huge popularity because can beat koreans so if there's a foreign team in dota 2 that do boring strat to beat chinese team they'll still have huge popularity I love Stephano just because he's Stephano. Great personality, great guy... the only streamer I ever watch. Shallow? Maybe, but it's what interests me. He doesn't really beat Korean's anymore either. Patience confirmed Ukranian now. To be fair, he's been losing mainly to foreigners nowadays. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=1996&part=games&league=standardIt's not cool to be a troll like that. He beat 1 Korean in the last year, and TLPD backs that up. Use this database for SC2: http://aligulac.com/players/10-Stephano/results/No one updates TLPD anymore. Aligulac still tells the same tale. And I think TLPD is being handled somewhat. TL fucked up really hard letting TLPD fall off like that, not keeping it modern and in good condition. Might have worked with BW since nobody else was there to do it... But SC2 comes around and... bleh. Beat MC, Bomber, took 2 games off of Ballon. Almost beat Jaedong. Beat MC again. Almost beat Leenock. Almost beat Stardust. And then he did retire effectively for a long period of time in the last year. I'm not saying he's a world class killer, but he can beat Koreans.
Took two games off, that's not beating them S:
And I guess he did win the show matches, but again, for obvious reasons, I don't count them. Just looked at regular tournament games.
And fair enough, he's still top-notch foreigner all things considered, but he hasn't beaten a Korean in a tournament until this week for the past year.
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I just want TB in CM as soon as teams starts to play low budget tournaments again.
And Techies rofl
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 21 2014 10:51 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:48 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:47 icystorage wrote:On July 21 2014 10:46 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:42 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:39 Vertical wrote:On July 21 2014 10:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:36 Kipsate wrote: [quote] This is the exact same style that Na`Vi got popular with in terms of playstyle, heavy aggressive heroes with emphasis on 5man teamfighting, kill you under your tower, take your tower.
Thats Na`Vi's style and people don't get bored of that because its Na`Vi, its not about the playstyle, its about the teams. Lived through Stephano 2012 and infestor/broodlords. Can confirm. but stephano still gains huge popularity because can beat koreans so if there's a foreign team in dota 2 that do boring strat to beat chinese team they'll still have huge popularity I love Stephano just because he's Stephano. Great personality, great guy... the only streamer I ever watch. Shallow? Maybe, but it's what interests me. He doesn't really beat Korean's anymore either. Patience confirmed Ukranian now. To be fair, he's been losing mainly to foreigners nowadays. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=1996&part=games&league=standardIt's not cool to be a troll like that. He beat 1 Korean in the last year, and TLPD backs that up. Use this database for SC2: http://aligulac.com/players/10-Stephano/results/No one updates TLPD anymore. daedgame?! ;_; Why volunteer for TLPD when some guy does it for free for literally everything with better search engines, head-to-head predictors, statistical tracking over time and a slightly better ELO system? TLPD is still maintained. I don't know what you're talking about.
You're right. My bad.
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On July 21 2014 10:33 Kipsate wrote: Not sure what people want to watch
They hate Rat style if its by a Chinese team not DK They hate Push if its by a Chinese team not DK They hate Aggressive ganking if its a Chinese team not DK They hate teamfight unless its by a Chinese team not DK
;;.
+1 on this. I find it a bit amusing how people hate Newbee for "being racists" and at the same time hate chinese teams for no reason at all. Sure, they say it's the playstyle, but obviously it has nothing to do with that because people will hate no matter how chinese teams will play.
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On July 21 2014 10:53 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:51 Plexa wrote:On July 21 2014 10:48 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:47 icystorage wrote:On July 21 2014 10:46 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:42 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:39 Vertical wrote:On July 21 2014 10:38 stuchiu wrote: [quote]
Lived through Stephano 2012 and infestor/broodlords. Can confirm. but stephano still gains huge popularity because can beat koreans so if there's a foreign team in dota 2 that do boring strat to beat chinese team they'll still have huge popularity I love Stephano just because he's Stephano. Great personality, great guy... the only streamer I ever watch. Shallow? Maybe, but it's what interests me. He doesn't really beat Korean's anymore either. Patience confirmed Ukranian now. To be fair, he's been losing mainly to foreigners nowadays. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=1996&part=games&league=standardIt's not cool to be a troll like that. He beat 1 Korean in the last year, and TLPD backs that up. Use this database for SC2: http://aligulac.com/players/10-Stephano/results/No one updates TLPD anymore. daedgame?! ;_; Why volunteer for TLPD when some guy does it for free for literally everything with better search engines, head-to-head predictors, statistical tracking over time and a slightly better ELO system? TLPD is still maintained. I don't know what you're talking about. You're right. My bad.
I told you, all your fault.
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On July 21 2014 10:48 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:47 Vertical wrote: the only thing that save DK from being hated is because of mushi he's found crying at TI3 so DK has a personality there i irrationally dislike mushi the most on DK, i like everyone else a lot though
to me mushi was the weakest link on the team, one of the most inconsistent as well. his impact was pretty low throughout the tournament
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On July 21 2014 10:53 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:51 Plexa wrote:On July 21 2014 10:48 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:47 icystorage wrote:On July 21 2014 10:46 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:42 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:39 Vertical wrote:On July 21 2014 10:38 stuchiu wrote: [quote]
Lived through Stephano 2012 and infestor/broodlords. Can confirm. but stephano still gains huge popularity because can beat koreans so if there's a foreign team in dota 2 that do boring strat to beat chinese team they'll still have huge popularity I love Stephano just because he's Stephano. Great personality, great guy... the only streamer I ever watch. Shallow? Maybe, but it's what interests me. He doesn't really beat Korean's anymore either. Patience confirmed Ukranian now. To be fair, he's been losing mainly to foreigners nowadays. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=1996&part=games&league=standardIt's not cool to be a troll like that. He beat 1 Korean in the last year, and TLPD backs that up. Use this database for SC2: http://aligulac.com/players/10-Stephano/results/No one updates TLPD anymore. daedgame?! ;_; Why volunteer for TLPD when some guy does it for free for literally everything with better search engines, head-to-head predictors, statistical tracking over time and a slightly better ELO system? TLPD is still maintained. I don't know what you're talking about. You're right. My bad.
Retracking a statement you said very confidently =/ Not very cool bro.
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o god now hyped for new hero releases and 6.82
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On July 21 2014 10:49 Fwizzz wrote: Why do a lot of people hate the chinese? Chinese dota is so boring because of late game farming. Chinese dota is so boring because of early game pushing. Which is essentially like western play style. Why do you want them to do lose the game?
Chinese teams are ok. I liked newbee(just because they beat DK badly on one time period i have a thing on teams that beat fan favorites). At least for me. Part of the reason is that it's sort of anticlimactic to have chinese vs chinese cause it's a global competition so i it would be nice to have a hyped east vs west. Part of the reason is that not really wanting dota 2 to become like starcraft scene.
Maybe for others it's more like Newbee vs VG is really anticlimactic since they are the least likable chinese team i think. IG and DK has so many fans while newbee has opterown and idk who are the VG fnatics but i know people love ROTK.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 21 2014 10:53 hootsushi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:53 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:51 Plexa wrote:On July 21 2014 10:48 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:47 icystorage wrote:On July 21 2014 10:46 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:42 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:39 Vertical wrote: [quote] but stephano still gains huge popularity because can beat koreans so if there's a foreign team in dota 2 that do boring strat to beat chinese team they'll still have huge popularity I love Stephano just because he's Stephano. Great personality, great guy... the only streamer I ever watch. Shallow? Maybe, but it's what interests me. He doesn't really beat Korean's anymore either. Patience confirmed Ukranian now. To be fair, he's been losing mainly to foreigners nowadays. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=1996&part=games&league=standardIt's not cool to be a troll like that. He beat 1 Korean in the last year, and TLPD backs that up. Use this database for SC2: http://aligulac.com/players/10-Stephano/results/No one updates TLPD anymore. daedgame?! ;_; Why volunteer for TLPD when some guy does it for free for literally everything with better search engines, head-to-head predictors, statistical tracking over time and a slightly better ELO system? TLPD is still maintained. I don't know what you're talking about. You're right. My bad. I told you, all your fault.
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On July 21 2014 10:53 Zexion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:33 Kipsate wrote: Not sure what people want to watch
They hate Rat style if its by a Chinese team not DK They hate Push if its by a Chinese team not DK They hate Aggressive ganking if its a Chinese team not DK They hate teamfight unless its by a Chinese team not DK
;;. +1 on this. I find it a bit amusing how people hate Newbee for "being racists" and at the same time hate chinese teams for no reason at all. Sure, they say it's the playstyle, but obviously it has nothing to do with that because people will hate no matter how chinese teams will play. Well people were just grumpy that no EU or NA team was in the finals or that none of their teams had made it. Then people pressed the racist button. Its weird, because being bummed that no one from a region you identify with made it to the finals does not make you racist.
But this is the internet, so we specialize with hyperbole.
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On July 21 2014 10:54 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:48 opterown wrote:On July 21 2014 10:47 Vertical wrote: the only thing that save DK from being hated is because of mushi he's found crying at TI3 so DK has a personality there i irrationally dislike mushi the most on DK, i like everyone else a lot though to me mushi was the weakest link on the team, one of the most inconsistent as well. his impact was pretty low throughout the tournament
From TI3 MVP to weakest link, now that's a career.
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
Eh, the only reason i may dislike Newbee vs VG is that this series is much more decided by stupid mistakes of either side rather than the plays like Universedota.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
What is this ESPN finals preview thing supposed to be?
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On July 21 2014 10:58 stuchiu wrote: What is this ESPN finals preview thing supposed to be?
830 pdt
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On July 21 2014 10:55 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:49 Fwizzz wrote: Why do a lot of people hate the chinese? Chinese dota is so boring because of late game farming. Chinese dota is so boring because of early game pushing. Which is essentially like western play style. Why do you want them to do lose the game? Chinese teams are ok. I liked newbee(just because they beat DK badly on one time period i have a thing on teams that beat fan favorites). At least for me. Part of the reason is that it's sort of anticlimactic to have chinese vs chinese cause it's a global competition so i it would be nice to have a hyped east vs west. Part of the reason is that not really wanting dota 2 to become like starcraft scene. Maybe for others it's more like Newbee vs VG is really anticlimactic since they are the least likable chinese team i think. IG and DK has so many fans while newbee has opterown and idk who are the VG fnatics but i know people love ROTK.
Last year was West/West. After this finals, we have 4 Western participants in finals and 4 Eastern with 2/2 championships, perfect.
iG have a lot of fans not because they're way more likeable but because they were the champions and people like Chuan, i know a lot of people who don't have a clue who YYF or Faith are. Rofl, even if i say "What about 430", they don't have a clue until i say "It's Ferrari". DK had a lot of fans since AAA transfer there, almost noone was cheering for them before. And now they have iceiceice and everyone loves him.
And idk, how can you cheer against Hao, even if you don't follow him. His red glasses from past TI are just sick. And fy has sick genes.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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Netherlands45349 Posts
On July 21 2014 10:55 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:49 Fwizzz wrote: Why do a lot of people hate the chinese? Chinese dota is so boring because of late game farming. Chinese dota is so boring because of early game pushing. Which is essentially like western play style. Why do you want them to do lose the game? Chinese teams are ok. I liked newbee(just because they beat DK badly on one time period i have a thing on teams that beat fan favorites). At least for me. Part of the reason is that it's sort of anticlimactic to have chinese vs chinese cause it's a global competition so i it would be nice to have a hyped east vs west. Part of the reason is that not really wanting dota 2 to become like starcraft scene. Maybe for others it's more like Newbee vs VG is really anticlimactic since they are the least likable chinese team i think. IG and DK has so many fans while newbee has opterown and idk who are the VG fnatics but i know people love ROTK. So the top 8 is 5 Chinese teams and 3 Western teams, various teams took multiple games off various chinese teams (Newbee was 7-8, LGD was 7-8.
TI3 was Western vs Western?Did you dislike that final?
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On July 21 2014 10:57 lolfail9001 wrote: Eh, the only reason i may dislike Newbee vs VG is that this series is much more decided by stupid mistakes of either side rather than the plays like Universedota.
You watched the series already?
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