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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 21 2014 10:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:42 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:39 Vertical wrote:On July 21 2014 10:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:36 Kipsate wrote:On July 21 2014 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:33 Kipsate wrote:
Not sure what people want to watch
They hate Rat style if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Push if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Aggressive ganking if its a Chinese team not DK
They hate teamfight unless its by a Chinese team not DK
;;. Vocal minorities Kipsate. Most people like the aggro style I think. Also it's getting a good mix, people start to hate things after they see nothing but the same thing over and over. This is the exact same style that Na`Vi got popular with in terms of playstyle, heavy aggressive heroes with emphasis on 5man teamfighting, kill you under your tower, take your tower. Thats Na`Vi's style and people don't get bored of that because its Na`Vi, its not about the playstyle, its about the teams. Lived through Stephano 2012 and infestor/broodlords. Can confirm. but stephano still gains huge popularity because can beat koreans so if there's a foreign team in dota 2 that do boring strat to beat chinese team they'll still have huge popularity I love Stephano just because he's Stephano. Great personality, great guy... the only streamer I ever watch. Shallow? Maybe, but it's what interests me. He doesn't really beat Korean's anymore either. Patience confirmed Ukranian now. To be fair, he's been losing mainly to foreigners nowadays. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=1996&part=games&league=standardIt's not cool to be a troll like that. He beat 1 Korean in the last year, and TLPD backs that up.
Use this database for SC2: http://aligulac.com/players/10-Stephano/results/
No one updates TLPD anymore.
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On July 21 2014 10:43 Kipsate wrote:
I think C9s playstyle is cool because they are very creative and do things out of the ordinary, they were maybe the most creative team at this TI(don't kill me pls).
Technically they are the team that had the most diverse pick this TI4 so i guess you are right. They also did the bounty hunter shinanegans. They really picked a lot of random shit.
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What if both teams just keep death balling into eachother over and over. That would be pretty good. All team fights all the time. All ults with low cooldowns.
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the only thing that save DK from being hated is because of mushi
he's found crying at TI3 so DK has a personality there
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On July 21 2014 10:46 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:42 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:39 Vertical wrote:On July 21 2014 10:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:36 Kipsate wrote:On July 21 2014 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:33 Kipsate wrote:
Not sure what people want to watch
They hate Rat style if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Push if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Aggressive ganking if its a Chinese team not DK
They hate teamfight unless its by a Chinese team not DK
;;. Vocal minorities Kipsate. Most people like the aggro style I think. Also it's getting a good mix, people start to hate things after they see nothing but the same thing over and over. This is the exact same style that Na`Vi got popular with in terms of playstyle, heavy aggressive heroes with emphasis on 5man teamfighting, kill you under your tower, take your tower. Thats Na`Vi's style and people don't get bored of that because its Na`Vi, its not about the playstyle, its about the teams. Lived through Stephano 2012 and infestor/broodlords. Can confirm. but stephano still gains huge popularity because can beat koreans so if there's a foreign team in dota 2 that do boring strat to beat chinese team they'll still have huge popularity I love Stephano just because he's Stephano. Great personality, great guy... the only streamer I ever watch. Shallow? Maybe, but it's what interests me. He doesn't really beat Korean's anymore either. Patience confirmed Ukranian now. To be fair, he's been losing mainly to foreigners nowadays. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=1996&part=games&league=standardIt's not cool to be a troll like that. He beat 1 Korean in the last year, and TLPD backs that up. Use this database for SC2: http://aligulac.com/players/10-Stephano/results/No one updates TLPD anymore.
daedgame?! ;_;
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On July 21 2014 10:45 Belisarius wrote:
Personally I think the most entertaining thing to watch in dota is heroes fighting heroes.
The worst games are PvE. Naga/PL ratsiege and ye-olde chinadoto farmfests are the poster boys, but early push lineups can devolve into the same deal.
If the defending team isn't able to engage into the veno/prophet/pugna/dp/rhasta siege, yiou pretty much get to watch the deathball roll around and eat towers for ten minutes. I don't find that very exciting either.
Smoke enables that style by creating the divide in the first place, but I'd rather see the siege nerfed explicitly rather than smokes nerfed. They enable a lot of interesting gameplay in other situations.
pls no volvo-enforced meta invincible towers
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On July 21 2014 10:46 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:42 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:39 Vertical wrote:On July 21 2014 10:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:36 Kipsate wrote:On July 21 2014 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:33 Kipsate wrote:
Not sure what people want to watch
They hate Rat style if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Push if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Aggressive ganking if its a Chinese team not DK
They hate teamfight unless its by a Chinese team not DK
;;. Vocal minorities Kipsate. Most people like the aggro style I think. Also it's getting a good mix, people start to hate things after they see nothing but the same thing over and over. This is the exact same style that Na`Vi got popular with in terms of playstyle, heavy aggressive heroes with emphasis on 5man teamfighting, kill you under your tower, take your tower. Thats Na`Vi's style and people don't get bored of that because its Na`Vi, its not about the playstyle, its about the teams. Lived through Stephano 2012 and infestor/broodlords. Can confirm. but stephano still gains huge popularity because can beat koreans so if there's a foreign team in dota 2 that do boring strat to beat chinese team they'll still have huge popularity I love Stephano just because he's Stephano. Great personality, great guy... the only streamer I ever watch. Shallow? Maybe, but it's what interests me. He doesn't really beat Korean's anymore either. Patience confirmed Ukranian now. To be fair, he's been losing mainly to foreigners nowadays. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=1996&part=games&league=standardIt's not cool to be a troll like that. He beat 1 Korean in the last year, and TLPD backs that up. Use this database for SC2: http://aligulac.com/players/10-Stephano/results/No one updates TLPD anymore.
Aligulac still tells the same tale.
And I think TLPD is being handled somewhat. TL fucked up really hard letting TLPD fall off like that, not keeping it modern and in good condition. Might have worked with BW since nobody else was there to do it... But SC2 comes around and... bleh.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 21 2014 10:46 Plansix wrote:
What if both teams just keep death balling into eachother over and over. That would be pretty good. All team fights all the time. All ults with low cooldowns.
VG Newbee game 2 was rated super highly and was like this
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Grand Finals will start when I leave for work...
Fuck all your whining about who's playing in the finals, I cannot even watch them. 
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 21 2014 10:47 Vertical wrote:
the only thing that save DK from being hated is because of mushi
he's found crying at TI3 so DK has a personality there
i irrationally dislike mushi the most on DK, i like everyone else a lot though
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 21 2014 10:47 icystorage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:46 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:42 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:39 Vertical wrote:On July 21 2014 10:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:36 Kipsate wrote:On July 21 2014 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:33 Kipsate wrote:
Not sure what people want to watch
They hate Rat style if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Push if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Aggressive ganking if its a Chinese team not DK
They hate teamfight unless its by a Chinese team not DK
;;. Vocal minorities Kipsate. Most people like the aggro style I think. Also it's getting a good mix, people start to hate things after they see nothing but the same thing over and over. This is the exact same style that Na`Vi got popular with in terms of playstyle, heavy aggressive heroes with emphasis on 5man teamfighting, kill you under your tower, take your tower. Thats Na`Vi's style and people don't get bored of that because its Na`Vi, its not about the playstyle, its about the teams. Lived through Stephano 2012 and infestor/broodlords. Can confirm. but stephano still gains huge popularity because can beat koreans so if there's a foreign team in dota 2 that do boring strat to beat chinese team they'll still have huge popularity I love Stephano just because he's Stephano. Great personality, great guy... the only streamer I ever watch. Shallow? Maybe, but it's what interests me. He doesn't really beat Korean's anymore either. Patience confirmed Ukranian now. To be fair, he's been losing mainly to foreigners nowadays. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=1996&part=games&league=standardIt's not cool to be a troll like that. He beat 1 Korean in the last year, and TLPD backs that up. Use this database for SC2: http://aligulac.com/players/10-Stephano/results/No one updates TLPD anymore. daedgame?! ;_;
Why volunteer for TLPD when some guy does it for free for literally everything with better search engines, head-to-head predictors, statistical tracking over time and a slightly better ELO system?
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On July 21 2014 10:46 hootsushi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:40 goody153 wrote:On July 21 2014 10:36 Kipsate wrote:On July 21 2014 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:33 Kipsate wrote:
Not sure what people want to watch
They hate Rat style if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Push if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Aggressive ganking if its a Chinese team not DK
They hate teamfight unless its by a Chinese team not DK
;;. Vocal minorities Kipsate. Most people like the aggro style I think. Also it's getting a good mix, people start to hate things after they see nothing but the same thing over and over. This is the exact same style that Na`Vi got popular with in terms of playstyle, heavy aggressive heroes with emphasis on 5man teamfighting, kill you under your tower, take your tower. Thats Na`Vi's style and people don't get bored of that because its Na`Vi, its not about the playstyle, its about the teams. Well teams get fans because fans liked their signature playstyle. There is one exception though. People like C9 because EE and singsing is there. I have no idea if people actually like their playstyle. It's true I only got into C9 because I'm a die-hard Sing fanboy, but C9 as a whole made me fall in love with them. You're always in for a treat, it's either brilliant play or the fuck up of the century. Also, come one, who doesn't appreciate Clown 9 once in a while.
The only team where want enjoy them losing as much as you enjoy them winning. And i don't even think anybody hates the team lol. They hate the fans but not the team.
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Why do a lot of people hate the chinese?
Chinese dota is so boring because of late game farming.
Chinese dota is so boring because of early game pushing.
Which is essentially like western play style.
Why do you want them to do lose the game?
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On July 21 2014 10:47 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:46 Plansix wrote:
What if both teams just keep death balling into eachother over and over. That would be pretty good. All team fights all the time. All ults with low cooldowns. VG Newbee game 2 was rated super highly and was like this
If we get at least half-good series tomorrow as was their meeting in Winners bracket, it will be hands down best final in history of TI.
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On July 21 2014 10:47 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:46 Plansix wrote:
What if both teams just keep death balling into eachother over and over. That would be pretty good. All team fights all the time. All ults with low cooldowns. VG Newbee game 2 was rated super highly and was like this
Yeah, I am warming up to VG. Also interested in seeing what the new "meta patch" looks like after this TI.
Icefrog is never happy with his creation. Never happy.
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On July 21 2014 10:48 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:47 icystorage wrote:On July 21 2014 10:46 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:42 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:39 Vertical wrote:On July 21 2014 10:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:36 Kipsate wrote:On July 21 2014 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:
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Vocal minorities Kipsate. Most people like the aggro style I think.
Also it's getting a good mix, people start to hate things after they see nothing but the same thing over and over. This is the exact same style that Na`Vi got popular with in terms of playstyle, heavy aggressive heroes with emphasis on 5man teamfighting, kill you under your tower, take your tower. Thats Na`Vi's style and people don't get bored of that because its Na`Vi, its not about the playstyle, its about the teams. Lived through Stephano 2012 and infestor/broodlords. Can confirm. but stephano still gains huge popularity because can beat koreans so if there's a foreign team in dota 2 that do boring strat to beat chinese team they'll still have huge popularity I love Stephano just because he's Stephano. Great personality, great guy... the only streamer I ever watch. Shallow? Maybe, but it's what interests me. He doesn't really beat Korean's anymore either. Patience confirmed Ukranian now. To be fair, he's been losing mainly to foreigners nowadays. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=1996&part=games&league=standardIt's not cool to be a troll like that. He beat 1 Korean in the last year, and TLPD backs that up. Use this database for SC2: http://aligulac.com/players/10-Stephano/results/No one updates TLPD anymore. daedgame?! ;_; Why volunteer for TLPD when some guy does it for free for literally everything with better search engines, head-to-head predictors, statistical tracking over time and a slightly better ELO system?
TL fell behind. They had the best service for a time, a monopoly on this kind of stuff you could say. And they did nothing with it and let their competitors (well a famous TL member), take that away from them.
Offering things like TLPD and other features like that really separates sites from other similar sites.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 21 2014 10:47 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:46 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:42 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:39 Vertical wrote:On July 21 2014 10:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:36 Kipsate wrote:On July 21 2014 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:33 Kipsate wrote:
Not sure what people want to watch
They hate Rat style if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Push if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Aggressive ganking if its a Chinese team not DK
They hate teamfight unless its by a Chinese team not DK
;;. Vocal minorities Kipsate. Most people like the aggro style I think. Also it's getting a good mix, people start to hate things after they see nothing but the same thing over and over. This is the exact same style that Na`Vi got popular with in terms of playstyle, heavy aggressive heroes with emphasis on 5man teamfighting, kill you under your tower, take your tower. Thats Na`Vi's style and people don't get bored of that because its Na`Vi, its not about the playstyle, its about the teams. Lived through Stephano 2012 and infestor/broodlords. Can confirm. but stephano still gains huge popularity because can beat koreans so if there's a foreign team in dota 2 that do boring strat to beat chinese team they'll still have huge popularity I love Stephano just because he's Stephano. Great personality, great guy... the only streamer I ever watch. Shallow? Maybe, but it's what interests me. He doesn't really beat Korean's anymore either. Patience confirmed Ukranian now. To be fair, he's been losing mainly to foreigners nowadays. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=1996&part=games&league=standardIt's not cool to be a troll like that. He beat 1 Korean in the last year, and TLPD backs that up. Use this database for SC2: http://aligulac.com/players/10-Stephano/results/No one updates TLPD anymore. Aligulac still tells the same tale. And I think TLPD is being handled somewhat. TL fucked up really hard letting TLPD fall off like that, not keeping it modern and in good condition. Might have worked with BW since nobody else was there to do it... But SC2 comes around and... bleh.
Beat Patience, MC, Bomber, took 2 games off of Ballon. Almost beat Jaedong. Beat MC again. Almost beat Leenock. Almost beat Stardust.
And then he did retire effectively for a long period of time in the last year. I'm not saying he's a world class killer, but he can beat Koreans.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 21 2014 10:48 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:47 Vertical wrote:
the only thing that save DK from being hated is because of mushi
he's found crying at TI3 so DK has a personality there i irrationally dislike mushi the most on DK, i like everyone else a lot though
#JusticeforOrange2013
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 21 2014 10:48 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:47 icystorage wrote:On July 21 2014 10:46 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:42 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:39 Vertical wrote:On July 21 2014 10:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:36 Kipsate wrote:On July 21 2014 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:
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Vocal minorities Kipsate. Most people like the aggro style I think.
Also it's getting a good mix, people start to hate things after they see nothing but the same thing over and over. This is the exact same style that Na`Vi got popular with in terms of playstyle, heavy aggressive heroes with emphasis on 5man teamfighting, kill you under your tower, take your tower. Thats Na`Vi's style and people don't get bored of that because its Na`Vi, its not about the playstyle, its about the teams. Lived through Stephano 2012 and infestor/broodlords. Can confirm. but stephano still gains huge popularity because can beat koreans so if there's a foreign team in dota 2 that do boring strat to beat chinese team they'll still have huge popularity I love Stephano just because he's Stephano. Great personality, great guy... the only streamer I ever watch. Shallow? Maybe, but it's what interests me. He doesn't really beat Korean's anymore either. Patience confirmed Ukranian now. To be fair, he's been losing mainly to foreigners nowadays. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=1996&part=games&league=standardIt's not cool to be a troll like that. He beat 1 Korean in the last year, and TLPD backs that up. Use this database for SC2: http://aligulac.com/players/10-Stephano/results/No one updates TLPD anymore. daedgame?! ;_; Why volunteer for TLPD when some guy does it for free for literally everything with better search engines, head-to-head predictors, statistical tracking over time and a slightly better ELO system? TLPD is still maintained. I don't know what you're talking about.
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On July 21 2014 10:48 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:46 hootsushi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:40 goody153 wrote:On July 21 2014 10:36 Kipsate wrote:On July 21 2014 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 21 2014 10:33 Kipsate wrote:
Not sure what people want to watch
They hate Rat style if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Push if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Aggressive ganking if its a Chinese team not DK
They hate teamfight unless its by a Chinese team not DK
;;. Vocal minorities Kipsate. Most people like the aggro style I think. Also it's getting a good mix, people start to hate things after they see nothing but the same thing over and over. This is the exact same style that Na`Vi got popular with in terms of playstyle, heavy aggressive heroes with emphasis on 5man teamfighting, kill you under your tower, take your tower. Thats Na`Vi's style and people don't get bored of that because its Na`Vi, its not about the playstyle, its about the teams. Well teams get fans because fans liked their signature playstyle. There is one exception though. People like C9 because EE and singsing is there. I have no idea if people actually like their playstyle. It's true I only got into C9 because I'm a die-hard Sing fanboy, but C9 as a whole made me fall in love with them. You're always in for a treat, it's either brilliant play or the fuck up of the century. Also, come one, who doesn't appreciate Clown 9 once in a while. The only team where want enjoy them losing as much as you enjoy them winning. And i don't even think anybody hates the team lol. They hate the fans but not the team.
yea hate the fanboys (of all stripes) not the players
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