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On July 19 2014 06:23 SkelA wrote:
Do you guys think that linken burning was a bad idea. Maybe heart was better he just needs to survive the burst to timelapse
he bought the linkens to counter hex, but it just didnt matter because it dragged on too late and he was getting murdered by razor if he manfought razor and dp ult just didnt do damage fast enough and iceiceice sniping combo came up too late when rtz and zai were so big
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On July 19 2014 06:24 AciD_DotA wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 06:15 lprk wrote:On July 19 2014 06:13 Wintex wrote:On July 19 2014 06:13 LemOn wrote:On July 19 2014 06:11 Wintex wrote:On July 19 2014 06:10 lprk wrote:On July 19 2014 06:10 Plansix wrote:
Guys, EG is fucking good. Making so awful draft looking good is really impressive The draft was friggin good. You're just dumb. cheesy pocket strat outpicked by weaver they are outplaying DK pretty much the draft was won by dk pretty sure The draft wasn't won by any means. It was pretty hard outdraft, some really good plays from EG and questionable from DK are only reason game is even. Lol have you even been watching the game? This "pretty hard outdraft" looks eerily similar to like, an even game? DK have been running this strat flawlessly throughout the tournament so far and had a 100% winrate with it until this game. So the fact that EG managed to counter the style and to do so with such unusual picks as 4 position Ursa is pretty solid evidence that this draft from EG was actually much better than even DK were expecting. Refusing to change your stance on something that has sufficient evidence to prove that this position is incorrect, continues to be and will probably always be the most annoying thing someone can do. Open-mindedness is really an under-appreciated skill/trait these days... it is very unfortunate.
put any other team on EG's place and they will lose in 25 minutes max.
that's why it called outdraft.
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DK played too passive when they needed to group and push before tide gotten refresher and before the hexes by ursa etc. SIGH
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On July 19 2014 06:24 lprk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 06:23 andy186 wrote:
doesnt matter mason hitting that arrow on weaver after he snuck away from the mid fight won them the game Not really, what they got from there was a T2, not a big deal at that point.
It was actually a huge deal because he was dead for 120 seconds without buyback at that time.
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On July 19 2014 06:25 ref4 wrote:
somebody give me the tl:dw of this game? was away for a bit then it was over
Weaver against a team with 0 reliable stuns: 1-4-5. Watch this, it's worth it. In free time, ofc.
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On July 19 2014 06:24 lprk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 06:23 andy186 wrote:
doesnt matter mason hitting that arrow on weaver after he snuck away from the mid fight won them the game Not really, what they got from there was a T2, not a big deal at that point.
bb down weaver dead is a huge shift in momentum though, it's like map control for 2+ minutes
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On July 19 2014 06:23 MyrMindservant wrote:
The most stupid game so far at this TI. DK have gifted first Rosh even though they seen how EG are going for it. And then they gifted their throne because no one on the team had TP scrolls.
No. 2 centaurs might spell a gank, so you have to also play defensive. a lvl 2 ursa rosh is NOT common at all. They had TP scrolls. Mushi had BoTs on CD etc.
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On July 19 2014 06:25 Purdy8TV wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 06:21 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On July 19 2014 06:19 Purdy8TV wrote:
Burning was fucking awful there, holding onto his HoM forever, not getting travels with lack of TP and that a possibility, absolutely terrible lol noway. but I think he shouldn't have gone to bkb after deso. Straight Daedalus+MKB glass cannon split push build could've won the game with the amount of cute plays iceiceice and Lanm provided, but oh well. No way what? He missed multiple fights that would've been solved with BoTs, ate that awful arrow running past a common ward spot and sat banked with gold+HoM eating a slot for no reason =/, was a poor game from him
it's not his best game for sure, but I want call it poor.
BoTs don't solve shit because Ursa got hex by that time.
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I don't think DK played that badly. They made mistakes but they also made really good plays, ice3 with the snipes, bait into bottom rax, etc.
They made some crucial mistakes at the end but they were already behind when that happened.
With the start they got, I'm really surprised they managed to give such an awesome game
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Butterfly was a mistake for Burning. The only way he would've died is from hex.
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On July 19 2014 06:25 spacer wrote:
Why are the stream numbers so low compared to last year tho?
Probably because everyone bought a Compendium and is watching in-game.
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In the end the 5-7 Roshans for EG mattered a fuck ton though. Well played by EG.
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On July 19 2014 06:25 spacer wrote:
Why are the stream numbers so low compared to last year tho?
Mmm, well monthly user count in Dec 2013 was 6.5mil, right now it's at 8.8mil... So the growth in Dota 2 hasn't been as crazy as some people like to think. I'm sure it'll beat the numbers of last year though.
I think there are some not so fan favorite teams in the top 8 also, might be a part of it.
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On July 19 2014 06:25 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 06:24 AciD_DotA wrote:On July 19 2014 06:15 lprk wrote:On July 19 2014 06:13 Wintex wrote:On July 19 2014 06:13 LemOn wrote:On July 19 2014 06:11 Wintex wrote:On July 19 2014 06:10 lprk wrote:On July 19 2014 06:10 Plansix wrote:
Guys, EG is fucking good. Making so awful draft looking good is really impressive The draft was friggin good. You're just dumb. cheesy pocket strat outpicked by weaver they are outplaying DK pretty much the draft was won by dk pretty sure The draft wasn't won by any means. It was pretty hard outdraft, some really good plays from EG and questionable from DK are only reason game is even. Lol have you even been watching the game? This "pretty hard outdraft" looks eerily similar to like, an even game? DK have been running this strat flawlessly throughout the tournament so far and had a 100% winrate with it until this game. So the fact that EG managed to counter the style and to do so with such unusual picks as 4 position Ursa is pretty solid evidence that this draft from EG was actually much better than even DK were expecting. Refusing to change your stance on something that has sufficient evidence to prove that this position is incorrect, continues to be and will probably always be the most annoying thing someone can do. Open-mindedness is really an under-appreciated skill/trait these days... it is very unfortunate. put any other team on EG's place and they will lose in 25 minutes max. that's why it called outdraft.
eg vs dk in group stage was pretty similar, dk ran 4 core dire with ursa and jugg and just ran eg over, because eg similarly to this game didn't draft early push
i agree that eg's lack of creep pushing compared to dk's made the game pretty hard for them, but their draft here was pretty clearly meant to go to the lategame (ursa ench are for pickoffs and t1s, but no raxing power) and then win with greedier lineup
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On July 19 2014 06:26 Kishin2 wrote:
Butterfly was a mistake for Burning. The only way he would've died is from hex.
Well, what he was supposed to build there? I mean, at this point he could not afford to build a 3rd straight defensive item, since he would start to end up with no actual damage and chain hexed anyways, if he tried to avoid getting sucked out by razor.
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