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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 18 2014 21:23 GMT
#4541
On July 19 2014 06:22 lolnoty wrote:
so razor without rtz is like 25% winrate, and rtz's winrate is 85% or something?

2ez4r(azor)tz
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Ultrapwnage
Profile Joined August 2012
126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 21:24:11
July 18 2014 21:23 GMT
#4542
DK deserves to lose this. so many awful decisions. they had a timeframe of like 30 min when they were MUCH stronger than EG and they just got picked off over and over again. really bad play by DK.
Romitelli
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brunei Darussalam566 Posts
July 18 2014 21:23 GMT
#4543
On July 19 2014 06:22 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 06:21 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Hmm, would be logical to have the winner bracket finals on another day. This tournament is four days, and the people in the winners bracket potentially only have to play 3 series... Why should a team have to play back to back? Not very fair imo.
They want to play 3 series today is the problem. They can't just play one lowerbracket match.


They're playing half of each lowerbracket match on the 19th.
Zed's dead, baby, Zed's dead.
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
July 18 2014 21:23 GMT
#4544
i just notice Merlini predict is meh (everything he predict.... lol)
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 21:24:44
July 18 2014 21:23 GMT
#4545
On July 19 2014 06:23 andy186 wrote:
doesnt matter mason hitting that arrow on weaver after he snuck away from the mid fight won them the game

Typical mirana contribution: be annoyance all game long, win the game with dumb arrow forcing a dieback /s
On July 19 2014 06:23 pyro19 wrote:
Mason either is the luckiest guy alive or he has the most Insane mirana I have ever seen.

The amount of arrows that he hit in that game were crazy.

Ehm... i am blind or his only actual arrow hit was the one that well, won the game straight away.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 18 2014 21:24 GMT
#4546
On July 19 2014 06:23 Noya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 06:22 Count9 wrote:
On July 19 2014 06:21 Sbrubbles wrote:
RTZ 90%+ win rate on razor

pretty sure during groups people were telling ppd to stop picking razor for him even though he did well every game on that hero (including the loss to c9)

But that's because Razor is even more boring than OD, not because hes bad at the hero.

the reason was "it's not a rtz hero", kinda like when xboct plays anything and doesn't have enough impact
AciD_DotA
Profile Joined May 2014
United States463 Posts
July 18 2014 21:24 GMT
#4547
On July 19 2014 06:15 lprk wrote:
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On July 19 2014 06:13 Wintex wrote:
On July 19 2014 06:13 LemOn wrote:
On July 19 2014 06:11 Wintex wrote:
On July 19 2014 06:10 lprk wrote:
On July 19 2014 06:10 Plansix wrote:
Guys, EG is fucking good.

Making so awful draft looking good is really impressive

The draft was friggin good. You're just dumb.

cheesy pocket strat
outpicked by weaver

they are outplaying DK pretty much the draft was won by dk pretty sure

The draft wasn't won by any means.

It was pretty hard outdraft, some really good plays from EG and questionable from DK are only reason game is even.


Lol have you even been watching the game? This "pretty hard outdraft" looks eerily similar to like, an even game? DK have been running this strat flawlessly throughout the tournament so far and had a 100% winrate with it until this game. So the fact that EG managed to counter the style and to do so with such unusual picks as 4 position Ursa is pretty solid evidence that this draft from EG was actually much better than even DK were expecting.

Refusing to change your stance on something that has sufficient evidence to prove that this position is incorrect, continues to be and will probably always be the most annoying thing someone can do. Open-mindedness is really an under-appreciated skill/trait these days... it is very unfortunate.
I change during the course of a day. I wake and I'm one person, and when I go to sleep I know for certain I'm somebody else
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
July 18 2014 21:24 GMT
#4548
On July 19 2014 06:23 pyro19 wrote:
Mason either is the luckiest guy alive or he has the most Insane mirana I have ever seen.

The amount of arrows that he hit in that game were crazy.
Really? I was going to say earlier in the game that he was really not hitting anything.

I mean he hit Burning at the crucial time, but other than that I don't remember too much when it really mattered mid-game.
Once you Goblak...
RandyL
Profile Joined May 2013
Australia148 Posts
July 18 2014 21:24 GMT
#4549
seriously, its becoming a joke by now "universe underrated" but universe is such a vital part to eg's success
BurNIng your soul.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
July 18 2014 21:24 GMT
#4550
On July 19 2014 06:23 Ultrapwnage wrote:
DK deserves to lose this. so many awful decisions. they had a timeframe of like 30 min when they wer MUCH stronger than EG and they just got picked off over and over again. really bad play by DK.

kind of agree, i think they were scared of the ravage and considered that one won teamfight in top lane a fluke
so they tried to pickoff / splitpush
:)
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 18 2014 21:24 GMT
#4551
On July 19 2014 06:22 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 06:21 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Hmm, would be logical to have the winner bracket finals on another day. This tournament is four days, and the people in the winners bracket potentially only have to play 3 series... Why should a team have to play back to back? Not very fair imo.
They want to play 3 series today is the problem. They can't just play one lowerbracket match.

Plus it's kinda cool that you already know the final boss and all teams that will be playing in the LB. Today it's the top teams, next 2 days are elimination matches.
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
July 18 2014 21:24 GMT
#4552
On July 19 2014 06:23 andy186 wrote:
doesnt matter mason hitting that arrow on weaver after he snuck away from the mid fight won them the game

Not really, what they got from there was a T2, not a big deal at that point.
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
July 18 2014 21:24 GMT
#4553
I'm interested to know on how many games EG had on dire side during group stages.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Purdy8TV
Profile Joined December 2012
Uruguay226 Posts
July 18 2014 21:25 GMT
#4554
On July 19 2014 06:21 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 06:19 Purdy8TV wrote:
Burning was fucking awful there, holding onto his HoM forever, not getting travels with lack of TP and that a possibility, absolutely terrible

lol noway.

but I think he shouldn't have gone to bkb after deso. Straight Daedalus+MKB glass cannon split push build could've won the game with the amount of cute plays iceiceice and Lanm provided, but oh well.


No way what? He missed multiple fights that would've been solved with BoTs, ate that awful arrow running past a common ward spot and sat banked with gold+HoM eating a slot for no reason =/, was a poor game from him
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
July 18 2014 21:25 GMT
#4555
On July 19 2014 06:23 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 06:22 BobMcJohnson wrote:
On July 19 2014 06:19 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Lol, good try DK.

Awesome stuff EG. Keep this up. At this rate we will have a grand final with two western teams.


what? as much as they're fan favourites, theres no way C9 or Na'Vi gets to the grand finals.


I'm just being a blind fanboy. But hey, it's possible. Want to give me 20:1 odds?

Thats steevie wonder level of blind though lol
Romanes eunt domus
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
July 18 2014 21:25 GMT
#4556
On July 19 2014 06:24 RandyL wrote:
seriously, its becoming a joke by now "universe underrated" but universe is such a vital part to eg's success

Everyone on EG is a vital part to EG's success, except mason.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 21:25:25
July 18 2014 21:25 GMT
#4557
On July 19 2014 06:23 Romitelli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 06:22 teapoted wrote:
On July 19 2014 06:21 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Hmm, would be logical to have the winner bracket finals on another day. This tournament is four days, and the people in the winners bracket potentially only have to play 3 series... Why should a team have to play back to back? Not very fair imo.
They want to play 3 series today is the problem. They can't just play one lowerbracket match.


They're playing half of each lowerbracket match on the 19th.
Yes, and they do that because they don't want one side to have an advantage.

That's irrelevant to my point, not the same thing.
Once you Goblak...
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
July 18 2014 21:25 GMT
#4558
Why are the stream numbers so low compared to last year tho?
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
July 18 2014 21:25 GMT
#4559
somebody give me the tl:dw of this game? was away for a bit then it was over
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
July 18 2014 21:25 GMT
#4560
On July 19 2014 06:24 Count9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 06:23 Noya wrote:
On July 19 2014 06:22 Count9 wrote:
On July 19 2014 06:21 Sbrubbles wrote:
RTZ 90%+ win rate on razor

pretty sure during groups people were telling ppd to stop picking razor for him even though he did well every game on that hero (including the loss to c9)

But that's because Razor is even more boring than OD, not because hes bad at the hero.

the reason was "it's not a rtz hero", kinda like when xboct plays anything and doesn't have enough impact


for xboct basically any hero that isn't Naix is a non-xboct hero
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
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