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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 08 2013 23:15 GMT
#1501
On May 09 2013 08:03 Kipsate wrote:
Still waiting for the Pugna pick which forces SM into buying a BKB first.

Necro first more likely. Just use the Necronomicon Archer to go kill the ward.
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renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
May 08 2013 23:32 GMT
#1502
On May 09 2013 07:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 07:44 Fishmalk wrote:
Another series featuring QPAD, another series showing select and waga are awful.

?? singsing mini and select were the weak links these games. waga was one of the only people doing well. in every game

And Waga was the one, who ultimately lost them game 2.
What can change the nature of a man?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 08 2013 23:53 GMT
#1503
On May 09 2013 08:32 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 07:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 09 2013 07:44 Fishmalk wrote:
Another series featuring QPAD, another series showing select and waga are awful.

?? singsing mini and select were the weak links these games. waga was one of the only people doing well. in every game

And Waga was the one, who ultimately lost them game 2.

ehhh. his item choices less than his plays, he kept them in it way longer than they should have been in it because of his plays. and item choices can easily be called by other players.
Ravensong170
Profile Joined June 2012
United States858 Posts
May 09 2013 00:03 GMT
#1504
I still think the majority of the blame falls on select. I've only ever seen him play OKAY. I am surprised they don't run him on more micro intensive heroes, he def has the ability to do well with chen/enchant/visage/LD (at least control wise). they put him on heroes where he makes terrible decisions cause he just doesn't seem to understand the heroes well enough. (weaver Shukuchi(sp?) duration in game 3 anyone?)
"what a terrible ass game, we should all kill ourselves." -EE-Sama
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 00:24:06
May 09 2013 00:23 GMT
#1505
On May 09 2013 09:03 Ravensong170 wrote:
I still think the majority of the blame falls on select. I've only ever seen him play OKAY. I am surprised they don't run him on more micro intensive heroes, he def has the ability to do well with chen/enchant/visage/LD (at least control wise). they put him on heroes where he makes terrible decisions cause he just doesn't seem to understand the heroes well enough. (weaver Shukuchi(sp?) duration in game 3 anyone?)

because his bad decision making is worse than his micro is a plus. so what if he has good apm, most pros do. chen is a major decision making character. micro only brings you from good to great. if he makes bad decisions for his 3 units its not really better than him making bad decisions for 1 unit.
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
May 09 2013 00:35 GMT
#1506
On May 09 2013 08:53 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 08:32 renfree wrote:
On May 09 2013 07:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 09 2013 07:44 Fishmalk wrote:
Another series featuring QPAD, another series showing select and waga are awful.

?? singsing mini and select were the weak links these games. waga was one of the only people doing well. in every game

And Waga was the one, who ultimately lost them game 2.

ehhh. his item choices less than his plays, he kept them in it way longer than they should have been in it because of his plays. and item choices can easily be called by other players.

Its not even his itemchoices, but more like decision making in the late game. What was that TP on Luna without buyback? Its Dignitas man, 5-man doto ultimate. Was he really expecting to find Aui alone?
What can change the nature of a man?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 09 2013 00:58 GMT
#1507
On May 09 2013 09:35 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 08:53 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 09 2013 08:32 renfree wrote:
On May 09 2013 07:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 09 2013 07:44 Fishmalk wrote:
Another series featuring QPAD, another series showing select and waga are awful.

?? singsing mini and select were the weak links these games. waga was one of the only people doing well. in every game

And Waga was the one, who ultimately lost them game 2.

ehhh. his item choices less than his plays, he kept them in it way longer than they should have been in it because of his plays. and item choices can easily be called by other players.

Its not even his itemchoices, but more like decision making in the late game. What was that TP on Luna without buyback? Its Dignitas man, 5-man doto ultimate. Was he really expecting to find Aui alone?

game was over before he did that.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 09 2013 01:18 GMT
#1508
No the blame is on the whole team. You know sing etc are just like 'yo lets play this shit doesnt matter what heroes we go'. You can see they clearly lack of the experience to execute their strategy/heroes/what items to buy etc whilei dont even need say more on select, an amateur is amateur.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
SFC
Profile Joined December 2011
2053 Posts
May 09 2013 01:25 GMT
#1509
On May 09 2013 10:18 BurningSera wrote:
No the blame is on the whole team. You know sing etc are just like 'yo lets play this shit doesnt matter what heroes we go'. You can see they clearly lack of the experience to execute their strategy/heroes/what items to buy etc whilei dont even need say more on select, an amateur is amateur.


Yeah pretty much this...

I remember how excited I was about this team when they had EGM and CWM (I know some don't like him but he is a pretty good player). They played really well in their scrims and I felt they had a chance to be a top western team.

Now they just are not very good, especially when you consider they have been living in the same house for awhile.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#1510
They are talented, for sure. Just the lack of a couch/experienced leader to guide them. Obviously i hope that they will get better etc and put on a good show on western qual, too late now i guess.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
May 09 2013 08:04 GMT
#1511
Caught up on some vods and I have to agree with others, while I'm generally not one to put players down Select's decision making really lets the team down, both as a lifestealer and a weaver. Maybe it's bad captaining, but they stand no hope in the TI qualifiers at this rate.

AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
May 09 2013 15:07 GMT
#1512
TL vs EG coming right up.

Looks like MSS will be standing in for Mike again, hope Mike's gonna be okay :/
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
May 09 2013 15:10 GMT
#1513
My most hated teams against each other, hard to know who to root for.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 09 2013 15:13 GMT
#1514
Rattlesnake = Rising Stars according to Lumi...

Big knowledge bomb.

GL TEAMLIQUID
Garfailed
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands409 Posts
May 09 2013 15:19 GMT
#1515
First ban clockwerk? what is this madness lol
Meiffeltower
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden674 Posts
May 09 2013 15:22 GMT
#1516
sick respect bans from EG in 1st phase
LEEEEE YOOOUUUUUNG HOOOOOO
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
May 09 2013 15:23 GMT
#1517
lol MUFC and Liquid with the same heroes

Just Nyx instead of Chen :p

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/beyondthesummit2
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 15:25:19
May 09 2013 15:24 GMT
#1518
I haven’t seen Dragon Knight pick win yet but then again I haven’t obbed that much Dota I guess. GL TL... :x

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If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 15:31:09
May 09 2013 15:30 GMT
#1519
Dragon Knight wins enough.

He fades in and out of relevance but for the most part is always a viable pick.
Once you Goblak...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 09 2013 15:30 GMT
#1520
On May 10 2013 00:24 Confuse wrote:
I haven’t seen Dragon Knight pick win yet but then again I haven’t obbed that much Dota I guess. GL TL... :x

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fear might be too good at rubick
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