EPTMaybe 5am game too hard. Get your shit together TL for the one last chance.
Or bamboe dota strong >_>
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
Maybe 5am game too hard. Get your shit together TL for the one last chance. Or bamboe dota strong >_> | ||
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gazageiras
Finland242 Posts
On April 23 2013 21:03 Angra wrote: If both EG and Liquid are "very very bad" then who's even good? rofl Like.. iG? That's it? Na'Vi, Fnatic.EU, mouz, Virtus.pro etc etc. | ||
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renfree
4485 Posts
On April 23 2013 21:03 Angra wrote: If both EG and Liquid are "very very bad" then who's even good? rofl Like.. iG? That's it? Mistakes that both teams made throughout these series is simply inacceptable, if they want to achieve something on a top tier level. They are not playing pubs or 4PL league after all, they'll have to go against world's finest. Edit: continuous mistakes, not just a single slip up, which happens to everyone, | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
Regarding all the comments about bad play, doesn't every player and every team bar iG play like shit once in a while? I don't think you can say that TL is 'very bad'. I don't even think we can say that about EG. We all know what TL is capable of under the right conditions. Playing at times that are frankly ridiculous for them while still having to deal with school/university and all that jazz, can't be anything other than a huge detrimental factor. To FLUFF and the other players that might read this: You will bounce back. You all have the ability and you have shown the capability to pick yourselves up and get back into it after failure. Good luck in the loser's bracket, TL. You can still make it! | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On April 23 2013 21:42 AwfuL_ wrote: Didn't watch the series and went to college instead, reading the comments I'm sorta glad I did :/ Regarding all the comments about bad play, doesn't every player and every team bar iG play like shit once in a while? I don't think you can say that TL is 'very bad'. I don't even think we can say that about EG. We all know what TL is capable of under the right conditions. Playing at times that are frankly ridiculous for them while still having to deal with school/university and all that jazz, can't be anything other than a huge detrimental factor. Not to mention (and I've shared that belief before) I don't think TL is the most stable team as far as mentality goes. I think playing against their biggest rivals influences their confidence. We don't very often see them make stupid decisions when they play against the better EU teams and I think it's because against those teams, they play with thought instead of with emotion. To FLUFF and the other players that might read this: You will bounce back. You all have the ability, but without direction or confidence that ability is wasted. In the past, you have shown the capability to pick yourselves up and get back into it after failure. When things don't work out and the team's motivation reaches a low point, one of you will have to step forward and rally the others. I think this is crucial if you want to achieve a more stable performance. Good luck in the loser's bracket, TL. You can still make it! iG for an extended length of time used to not be a very strong team in wc3 dota, i used to always call them the master pub team because whether or not they won heavily depended on their early game and if they won it they'd farm for much longer than needed to win the game (something like 10 minutes of farming). i have a feeling EG and liquid haven't been able to practice as much as they shouldve. that said they still have a long way to go. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
Both series against EG were just so messy and weird, on both sides. | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
On April 23 2013 21:25 gazageiras wrote: Na'Vi, Fnatic.EU, mouz, Virtus.pro etc etc. you kidding me? navi yes...the rest no.... | ||
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drew-chan
Malaysia1517 Posts
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tapes
487 Posts
On April 23 2013 22:16 BlackGosu wrote: lol kids talking shit about american teams. at least they placed 9th-12th at ti2. while the eu teams completely flopped. you kidding me? navi yes...the rest no.... To be honest, Na'Vi was the only western team that did well. CLG, coL, EG and Darer all got equally far in the loser's bracket. You can argue that EG and coL starting in the winner's bracket means that they did better, but the difference is marginal at best. They both lost to TongFu or EHOME, teams that started in the loser's bracket. Nationalism is dumb. | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
On April 23 2013 22:24 tapes wrote: To be honest, Na'Vi was the only western team that did well. CLG, coL, EG and Darer all got equally far in the loser's bracket. You can argue that EG and coL starting in the winner's bracket means that they did better, but the difference is marginal at best. They both lost to TongFu or EHOME, teams that started in the loser's bracket. Nationalism is dumb. yeah which is why i wouldnt straight out say one team is better. except for navi. | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On April 23 2013 21:13 SKC wrote: eam. It's not a tendency ESPORTS followers have. Anyone that follows any sport compares pro players to pro players. Not pro players to your mother in law. what is exclusively to esport, is that everyone is compared to the one best thing at the moment and get trashed if they arent THE best. in football a team who plays in the first division of a big league is publicly seen as a very good team. in esport a lot of trolls would go full retard because this team isnt madrid/munich/barcelona. | ||
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
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maru~
2345 Posts
On April 23 2013 22:29 AwfuL_ wrote: some people would still find a way to argue that Western dota is incomparably worse than Chinese/SEA dota. Because it is true? Western Dota has been pretty much irrelevant for years on a global scale with one exception (Na`Vi and before that DTS). | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On April 23 2013 22:29 hfglgg wrote: what is exclusively to esport, is that everyone is compared to the one best thing at the moment and get trashed if they arent THE best. in football a team who plays in the first division of a big league is publicly seen as a very good team. in esport a lot of trolls would go full retard because this team isnt madrid/munich/barcelona. That is because Dota is more of an international competition compared to Football(esp in this case). People might cheer here for the Dutch regional teams, but they are bad and get stomped on a regular basis whenever they try and take it to the International theatre(Champions League). | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On April 23 2013 23:02 Kipsate wrote: That is because Dota is more of an international competition compared to Football(esp in this case). People might cheer here for the Dutch regional teams, but they are bad and get stomped on a regular basis whenever they try and take it to the International theatre(Champions League). And that every Dota team is aiming towards winning tournaments. A low level spanish team is fine being far worse than Barcelona, their goal is not winning the league. But no Dota team's goal is just making it to TI3. Everyone wants to be the best, and honestly, most of them have the talent to be better than they currently are, so it's not like they are delusional. If you lived in a country where you had 10 big national teams, where everyone wants to win the league, you would see it can be a lot closer to what happens in ESPORTS. People are not satisfied with being just average, so they can be a lot more harsh, even if sometimes it's unfair. | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
On April 23 2013 22:47 maru~ wrote: Because it is true? Western Dota has been pretty much irrelevant for years on a global scale with one exception (Na`Vi and before that DTS). I bolded an important word that you missed  | ||
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gazageiras
Finland242 Posts
On April 23 2013 22:16 BlackGosu wrote: lol kids talking shit about american teams. at least they placed 9th-12th at ti2. while the eu teams completely flopped. you kidding me? navi yes...the rest no.... You are talking about a tournament which was held 8 months ago. A team cannot improve or turn to shit at this time? | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On April 23 2013 23:02 Kipsate wrote: That is because Dota is more of an international competition compared to Football(esp in this case). People might cheer here for the Dutch regional teams, but they are bad and get stomped on a regular basis whenever they try and take it to the International theatre(Champions League). that is true, but the mindset of the "fans" is different. in esport, no one is willing to accept that some teams are just worse than others, but it still can be enjoyable to watch. i always have the feeling that the vocal minority tries do define their own personal skill through stateing what theams they supports. "look i am so highskilled, i cant even watch eu throwdota because they play so bad!!!111". and then they try to lift second tier chinese teams on some form of pedestral and decleare them better then everything in eu while tongfu is losing 2-0 against eg despite a 200 ping advantage. another thing is that the performance of a team gets relativised if they do bad. "yeah they didnt practice! saving strats for ti 2025! they used a standin! the other team used a standin! not one cares for online tournaments! no one cares for dreamhack! no one cares for (insert random tournament navi did not win). these things never happen in football. if your team loses, you are mad at your team, your team only and maybe the refereee. that goes up to a point were some idiot fans attack players of the team they "support". people should just understand that only because a team plays worse than an other team, it doesnt mean that the game is "OMG UNWATCHABLE WASTE OF TIME OMFGFSDQA". granted, its only a minority that acts this way. navi, liquid and qpanda get higher viewer numbers regardless of their performance while chinese dota gets less viewers (in the west) in general. but i find that attitude incredible annoying and dont really understand it. | ||
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