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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On April 23 2013 20:47 Grettin wrote: really? i feel like thats the only thing they did somewhat right this game. gg EG! the supports just had really shoddy decisionmaking, like the first gank on bottom trying to go on bottom to killing undying, even though they got double decayed and then sat in tombstone zombies for 5 seconds. that stuff is like fire early on | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On April 23 2013 20:49 drew-chan wrote: They lost the 3v2 fight at bot.... against a lvl 1 tombstone..... Sure, but thats more or less their players failing hard. Not to mention how strong tombstone is early game. But when they kept changing lanes, it did look good for TL.. before they fought like monkeys. | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
3v2 and jumping on Undying results in liquid losing 2 to Gyrocopter... | ||
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renfree
4485 Posts
On April 23 2013 20:49 Spicy_Curry wrote: SF pick was fine. Korok just missed way too many razes and last hits + he went for unsafe engagements and you cant do that as an SF. It would be fine, if his supports didn't act like amateurs, engaging into tombstone and rocket barrage, and then leaving him unprotected to get murdered. He never recovered after this. | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
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fascistfromhell
1689 Posts
Liquid's inconsistency is just sickening. Losing to EG is no shame imo, but they are just playing awful right now compared to the last months. | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On April 23 2013 20:54 duoform wrote: So EG won with Bamboe? Damn.. Yes, Bamboe, of all players, played pretty decently for EG, of all teams. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On April 23 2013 20:54 duoform wrote: So EG won with Bamboe? Damn.. He did play decently (other than the 2nd game as Prophet) though. Especially first game. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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renfree
4485 Posts
Both teams are very very bad, but EG's draft is what saves them sometimes, while Liquid is too stagnant and predictable and have nothing up their sleeves. | ||
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sirpsychosexy
United States33 Posts
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Lokj
Netherlands439 Posts
On April 23 2013 20:56 renfree wrote: Tbh, Both teams are very very bad, but EG's draft is what saves them sometimes, while Liquid is too stagnant and predictable and have nothing up their sleeves. Both teams are very very bad and still are considered top 10/15 in the West and top 5 in the US? I see the points you're making, but don't exaggerate. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On April 23 2013 20:56 renfree wrote: Tbh, Both teams are very very bad, but EG's draft is what saves them sometimes, while Liquid is too stagnant and predictable and have nothing up their sleeves. predictability is one thing, failure to execute is another... | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
On April 23 2013 20:56 renfree wrote: Tbh, Both teams are very very bad, but EG's draft is what saves them sometimes, while Liquid is too stagnant and predictable and have nothing up their sleeves. If both EG and Liquid are "very very bad" then who's even good? rofl Like.. iG? That's it? | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On April 23 2013 20:59 Lokj wrote: Both teams are very very bad and still are considered top 10/15 in the West and top 5 in the US? I see the points you're making, but don't exaggerate. Well, even looking at the chinese scene your 15th team wouldn't exactly be a strong team. And are there even more than 5 pro teams on the US? TL, EG, Dignitas, Fnatic.NA and Root is already pushing it, since those last 2 teams aren't near the top level of play. There are just not enough Dota teams for those classifications to mean anything. | ||
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Lokj
Netherlands439 Posts
On April 23 2013 21:03 SKC wrote: Well, even looking at the chinese scene your 15th team wouldn't exactly be a strong team. And are there even 5 pro teams on the US? You would probally have to add something like Fnatic.NA and Root. There are just not enough Dota teams for those classifications to mean anything. I don't know the exact number, but isn't 250,000 Dota2 players in the United States a minimum? So making it to a proplayer (maybe 15 in the US?) level makes them very, very good. I dislike the negative tendencies a lot of the eSports followers, or on a broader scale, internet peeps have. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
mean while I doubt eg could pull off these wins with bdiz. the power to rotate the farm priority to bamboe worked out wonderfully. Jeyo naix game 3 feel really awkward though, not sure if he gone rotate long now if demon take mid. p/s: dry caps, I typed on phone | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On April 23 2013 21:08 Lokj wrote: I don't know the exact number, but isn't 250,000 Dota2 players in the United States a minimum? So making it to a proplayer (maybe 15 in the US?) level makes them very, very good. I dislike the negative tendencies a lot of the eSports followers, or on a broader scale, internet peeps have. the number is around 80k including south america. compare to Asia and EU, NA got | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On April 23 2013 21:08 Lokj wrote: I don't know the exact number, but isn't 250,000 Dota2 players in the United States a minimum? So making it to a proplayer (maybe 15 in the US?) level makes them very, very good. I dislike the negative tendencies a lot of the eSports followers, or on a broader scale, internet peeps have. They are very, very good if compared to the average joe. We are not doing that. Take everyone that plays football in the world and you get an absurd number. That doesn't mean any player in a second division team is suddenly very, very good. You compare players that are trying to achieve the same level of play and competing in similar tournaments. What's the point of saying every pro team is very good? They should be, they are a pro team. It's not a tendency ESPORTS followers have. Anyone that follows any sport compares pro players to pro players. Not pro players to your mother in law. | ||
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