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Noya
Profile Joined April 2013
Uruguay11223 Posts
July 09 2013 17:37 GMT
#10121
we need an update to this video xiao8 vs Yao in LGD Razer promo
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
July 09 2013 17:37 GMT
#10122
On July 10 2013 02:26 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 02:00 Stwy wrote:
Most of you guys just don't understand. Chinese/ Asian culture is different from the west. Pride, public image and face matters A LOT. Basically what dendi said, even if it was a joke, was almost equivalent to throwing a pile of dog shit in xiao8's face in front of 200k+ viewers. It's not fucking funny. They might have lost a lot of fans and friends with that 1 sentence.

I won't be surprised if no Chinese team wants to scrim with them at all anymore. Yesterday's BM was acceptable, but what he did just now was outrageous.


One thing about that - they need to get back to the West fast before they lose their advantage and give up everything they know. I already feel the Chinese getting a hang of Na'Vi's playstyle.



Same old story, same old bullshit. Chinese teams lose a few tournaments before TI2, everyone saying they suck why are they being invited to TI2, etc. etc.


Same old story again at TI3. Chinese/Asian teams will likely dominate the entire top 8 again, and the only difference is that you have two Western teams that can compete now rather than just one.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
July 09 2013 17:38 GMT
#10123
On July 10 2013 02:35 Seraphic wrote:
These numbers are huge. Think TI3 will break the numbers.

I'm still wondering if Valve will get some Korean casters. Or at least allow them to do it from GomTV studio or something. Teach them like how it is going on for the East and West teams.
Of course they will. The only question is if they're on-site or not but it would make no sense for them to want to get attention in the scene and not broadcast TI3. That's the whole point of TI.
Once you Goblak...
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
July 09 2013 17:38 GMT
#10124
On July 10 2013 02:35 Seraphic wrote:
These numbers are huge. Think TI3 will break the numbers.

I'm still wondering if Valve will get some Korean casters. Or at least allow them to do it from GomTV studio or something. Teach them like how it is going on for the East and West teams.


Of course TI3 will, TI2 had 550k at one point. Now we will have Koreans, and I assume more access for Chinese citizens + a bigger playerbase for Dota2 overall.

With 300 thousand average concurrent players on dota2 at any time, TI3 is going to be huge.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 17:41:49
July 09 2013 17:41 GMT
#10125
On July 10 2013 02:37 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 02:26 Azarkon wrote:
On July 10 2013 02:00 Stwy wrote:
Most of you guys just don't understand. Chinese/ Asian culture is different from the west. Pride, public image and face matters A LOT. Basically what dendi said, even if it was a joke, was almost equivalent to throwing a pile of dog shit in xiao8's face in front of 200k+ viewers. It's not fucking funny. They might have lost a lot of fans and friends with that 1 sentence.

I won't be surprised if no Chinese team wants to scrim with them at all anymore. Yesterday's BM was acceptable, but what he did just now was outrageous.


One thing about that - they need to get back to the West fast before they lose their advantage and give up everything they know. I already feel the Chinese getting a hang of Na'Vi's playstyle.



Same old story, same old bullshit. Chinese teams lose a few tournaments before TI2, everyone saying they suck why are they being invited to TI2, etc. etc.


Same old story again at TI3. Chinese/Asian teams will likely dominate the entire top 8 again, and the only difference is that you have two Western teams that can compete now rather than just one.


Same story except two tournaments IN CHINA, one of which was a LAN, lost to 1-2 Western teams vs. 7-8 Asian teams.

Yup, we've all seen that before. Oh wait.
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
July 09 2013 17:45 GMT
#10126
On July 10 2013 02:41 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 02:37 superstartran wrote:
On July 10 2013 02:26 Azarkon wrote:
On July 10 2013 02:00 Stwy wrote:
Most of you guys just don't understand. Chinese/ Asian culture is different from the west. Pride, public image and face matters A LOT. Basically what dendi said, even if it was a joke, was almost equivalent to throwing a pile of dog shit in xiao8's face in front of 200k+ viewers. It's not fucking funny. They might have lost a lot of fans and friends with that 1 sentence.

I won't be surprised if no Chinese team wants to scrim with them at all anymore. Yesterday's BM was acceptable, but what he did just now was outrageous.


One thing about that - they need to get back to the West fast before they lose their advantage and give up everything they know. I already feel the Chinese getting a hang of Na'Vi's playstyle.



Same old story, same old bullshit. Chinese teams lose a few tournaments before TI2, everyone saying they suck why are they being invited to TI2, etc. etc.


Same old story again at TI3. Chinese/Asian teams will likely dominate the entire top 8 again, and the only difference is that you have two Western teams that can compete now rather than just one.


Same story except two tournaments IN CHINA, one of which was a LAN, lost to 1-2 Western teams vs. 7-8 Asian teams.

Yup, we've all seen that before. Oh wait.



Yeah, and Na'vi #threwgamesonpurposeingroupstage


Wait until TI3; the Chinese teams looked terrible prior to TI2 (watch some of the tournament footage), and then proceed to stomp literally everyone but Na'vi come TI2.
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
July 09 2013 17:45 GMT
#10127
On July 10 2013 02:18 Seraphic wrote:
Granted I didn't follow DotA 1 so I'll withdraw my statement.

Was he really THAT bad in DotA 1?

Edit: Dendi got completely tricked into saying that by xaio8's gf. That's... is actually kind of funny to be caught in the middle between a couple.


not sure what all this Dendi being ultra bm in DotA 1 is about, but I've played a bunch with/against him in IHs back in days and he wasn't anything extreme like some people are trying to make it seem.. he was as "bm" as anyone else would be in the scene on average, no more no less.
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Namunelbo
Profile Joined June 2012
501 Posts
July 09 2013 17:46 GMT
#10128
Please...

If you guys haven't seen the director's master plan yet.

• Get girlfriend through massive popular Dating show in China (viewed by hundred of thousands)
If you guy's haven't watched the show, e-sports in China is not that big and not a lot of people know of it's existence, aside from the stablished audience.

• The director not only went once, but thrice, in his Bo5 attempt to conquer ZhaoJie's heart, creating way more attention to the audience.

• After finally achieving his goals of having this helpless woman's heart, he then proceeds to break up with her, JUST before the Finals.

• All of this accompanied by losing the finals and have his enemy say (in a jokingly way) a phrase that will shake most of the chinese audience, thus attracting way more attention by playing the pity card.

Pity and attention does also get woman.
Director8, truly a mastermind.
DarkReign_
Profile Joined September 2012
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 17:48:58
July 09 2013 17:47 GMT
#10129
Western teams will enjoy this year TI and maybe more.
The question is...How long?
The east will soon having one more region to emerge.
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
July 09 2013 17:48 GMT
#10130
On July 10 2013 02:45 cArn- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 02:18 Seraphic wrote:
Granted I didn't follow DotA 1 so I'll withdraw my statement.

Was he really THAT bad in DotA 1?

Edit: Dendi got completely tricked into saying that by xaio8's gf. That's... is actually kind of funny to be caught in the middle between a couple.


not sure what all this Dendi being ultra bm in DotA 1 is about, but I've played a bunch with/against him in IHs back in days and he wasn't anything extreme like some people are trying to make it seem.. he was as "bm" as anyone else would be in the scene on average, no more no less.



In conjunction with Puppey he was pretty bad. Especially when you consider that the very few that were worse than him were like... Demon... which is saying alot.
Crytash
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany251 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 17:50:50
July 09 2013 17:50 GMT
#10131
On July 10 2013 02:31 Seraphic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 02:30 Kipsate wrote:
On a sidenote does anyone know the numbers in total during these games?(client+streams)



Uhh, it was 98k for BTS, 50k+ in Russian stream. And LD said the Chinese had it on public TV.

So I'm going to give it a huge ass number.


261244

http://i.imgur.com/AVIqCbs.jpg
Words are small, but game is BIG
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
July 09 2013 17:52 GMT
#10132
On July 10 2013 02:45 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 02:41 Azarkon wrote:
On July 10 2013 02:37 superstartran wrote:
On July 10 2013 02:26 Azarkon wrote:
On July 10 2013 02:00 Stwy wrote:
Most of you guys just don't understand. Chinese/ Asian culture is different from the west. Pride, public image and face matters A LOT. Basically what dendi said, even if it was a joke, was almost equivalent to throwing a pile of dog shit in xiao8's face in front of 200k+ viewers. It's not fucking funny. They might have lost a lot of fans and friends with that 1 sentence.

I won't be surprised if no Chinese team wants to scrim with them at all anymore. Yesterday's BM was acceptable, but what he did just now was outrageous.


One thing about that - they need to get back to the West fast before they lose their advantage and give up everything they know. I already feel the Chinese getting a hang of Na'Vi's playstyle.



Same old story, same old bullshit. Chinese teams lose a few tournaments before TI2, everyone saying they suck why are they being invited to TI2, etc. etc.


Same old story again at TI3. Chinese/Asian teams will likely dominate the entire top 8 again, and the only difference is that you have two Western teams that can compete now rather than just one.


Same story except two tournaments IN CHINA, one of which was a LAN, lost to 1-2 Western teams vs. 7-8 Asian teams.

Yup, we've all seen that before. Oh wait.



Yeah, and Na'vi #threwgamesonpurposeingroupstage


Wait until TI3; the Chinese teams looked terrible prior to TI2 (watch some of the tournament footage), and then proceed to stomp literally everyone but Na'vi come TI2.


Even with a win in TI 3, the Chinese scene is at best able to bring itself back to equivalence. Losing a tournament on your home soil against 1-2 teams from other countries is simply very bad - it's what Koreans do to Westerners in SC 2, and we know there's a lopsided advantage there.
Randomnation
Profile Joined July 2013
2 Posts
July 09 2013 17:52 GMT
#10133
On July 10 2013 02:48 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 02:45 cArn- wrote:
On July 10 2013 02:18 Seraphic wrote:
Granted I didn't follow DotA 1 so I'll withdraw my statement.

Was he really THAT bad in DotA 1?

Edit: Dendi got completely tricked into saying that by xaio8's gf. That's... is actually kind of funny to be caught in the middle between a couple.


not sure what all this Dendi being ultra bm in DotA 1 is about, but I've played a bunch with/against him in IHs back in days and he wasn't anything extreme like some people are trying to make it seem.. he was as "bm" as anyone else would be in the scene on average, no more no less.



In conjunction with Puppey he was pretty bad. Especially when you consider that the very few that were worse than him were like... Demon... which is saying alot.


He was pretty young, wasn't he? I think almost all kids who grew up on the Internet act this way at one point. Anyways, xiao8 said it was a joke and not a big deal, but I guess people just really want the drama.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
July 09 2013 17:53 GMT
#10134
On July 10 2013 02:47 DarkReign_ wrote:
Western teams will enjoy this year TI and maybe more.
The question is...How long?
The east will soon having one more region to emerge.


Koreans have ever been their own region when it comes to eSports. In case they emerge, then it's going to be foreigners vs. Koreans, not East vs. West.
dogmode
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Philippines491 Posts
July 09 2013 17:57 GMT
#10135
na'vi makes a statement re: dendi's comment:

"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
July 09 2013 17:57 GMT
#10136
On July 10 2013 02:37 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 02:26 Azarkon wrote:
On July 10 2013 02:00 Stwy wrote:
Most of you guys just don't understand. Chinese/ Asian culture is different from the west. Pride, public image and face matters A LOT. Basically what dendi said, even if it was a joke, was almost equivalent to throwing a pile of dog shit in xiao8's face in front of 200k+ viewers. It's not fucking funny. They might have lost a lot of fans and friends with that 1 sentence.

I won't be surprised if no Chinese team wants to scrim with them at all anymore. Yesterday's BM was acceptable, but what he did just now was outrageous.


One thing about that - they need to get back to the West fast before they lose their advantage and give up everything they know. I already feel the Chinese getting a hang of Na'Vi's playstyle.



Same old story, same old bullshit. Chinese teams lose a few tournaments before TI2, everyone saying they suck why are they being invited to TI2, etc. etc.


Same old story again at TI3. Chinese/Asian teams will likely dominate the entire top 8 again, and the only difference is that you have two Western teams that can compete now rather than just one.


the chinese didnt lose (fair) tournaments in ti2. some online lagfests with 300ms but that was about it.
its different know with a few teams seemingly can beat chinese teams on even ground.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
July 09 2013 17:58 GMT
#10137
On July 10 2013 02:52 Randomnation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 02:48 superstartran wrote:
On July 10 2013 02:45 cArn- wrote:
On July 10 2013 02:18 Seraphic wrote:
Granted I didn't follow DotA 1 so I'll withdraw my statement.

Was he really THAT bad in DotA 1?

Edit: Dendi got completely tricked into saying that by xaio8's gf. That's... is actually kind of funny to be caught in the middle between a couple.


not sure what all this Dendi being ultra bm in DotA 1 is about, but I've played a bunch with/against him in IHs back in days and he wasn't anything extreme like some people are trying to make it seem.. he was as "bm" as anyone else would be in the scene on average, no more no less.



In conjunction with Puppey he was pretty bad. Especially when you consider that the very few that were worse than him were like... Demon... which is saying alot.


He was pretty young, wasn't he? I think almost all kids who grew up on the Internet act this way at one point. Anyways, xiao8 said it was a joke and not a big deal, but I guess people just really want the drama.


People who hate Dendi and NaVi will continue to do so. People who don't till keep being the same.

At the end of the day, Dendi apologized, xiao8 from all the sources so far knew it was a joke and accepted it. As long as there isn't any hard feelings between Dendi and xiao8 then that's really all that matters. Fans will be fans at the end of the day.

But, I'd prefer for NaVi to take LGD out to dinner Best way to do that end all thing. Good way to really show you are sorry in Chinese culture then bringing someone out to dinner.
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DarkReign_
Profile Joined September 2012
1250 Posts
July 09 2013 17:59 GMT
#10138
On July 10 2013 02:53 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 02:47 DarkReign_ wrote:
Western teams will enjoy this year TI and maybe more.
The question is...How long?
The east will soon having one more region to emerge.


Koreans have ever been their own region when it comes to eSports. In case they emerge, then it's going to be foreigners vs. Koreans, not East vs. West.
If they dominate hard then maybe.I'm interested of what Korean's play style will be tho.
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
July 09 2013 18:00 GMT
#10139
On July 10 2013 01:53 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 01:52 Velr wrote:
On July 10 2013 01:51 Vadrigar wrote:
CALL THE SPONSORS!!! Fire Dendi! He comes to China and steals them womens... seriously you people are so stuck up...



Thanks... More BM = more Fun.
Agreed.

There are like no rivalries in Dota except Fnatic vs VP. Need more.


I'm enjoying the tension, it is just going to make TI3 all the more fun to watch the newly invigorated West teams (including TL hopefully!) vs. China!!!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 09 2013 18:00 GMT
#10140
On July 10 2013 02:45 superstartran wrote:
Wait until TI3; the Chinese teams looked terrible prior to TI2 (watch some of the tournament footage), and then proceed to stomp literally everyone but Na'vi come TI2.

They looked terrible because they were playing 200+ ping games to SEA (iG and LGD hadn't moved to their new bases yet that had better connection to SEA) or 300+ ping games to USW, when their opponents were playing with much better ping.
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