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On May 26 2014 15:15 GtC wrote: What's wrong with it and what is troll supposed to do?
Well I must admit that it is not exactly the most terrible of items on troll, certainly not on the same level as bloodstone on necro or heart on slark. Still satanic is a better item on troll. More importantly, the Chinese built barely any damage items on troll, usually opting for blink bkb heart. Its not the worst since at least you still contribute with ulti and hoping to bash the carries like an anti carry. But still the games had showed how irrelevant troll was with this build.
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On May 26 2014 11:29 rebdomine wrote: When going 4-4-1-1, what do you max first? I assume Whirling Axes?
Why max Q over E? You can do Roshan at level 11 with HotD if you max W and E
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is offlane troll viable in competitive? i remember DK pulling that one before
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On May 26 2014 16:46 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2014 11:29 rebdomine wrote: When going 4-4-1-1, what do you max first? I assume Whirling Axes? Why max Q over E? You can do Roshan at level 11 with HotD if you max W and E
The bonus MS would be pretty useful if you want to kill enemy heroes in the mid game? I was just basing it off a suggestion from a different post.
I suppose going 1-4-4-1 is a lot better if you are just going to go afk farm
On May 26 2014 16:49 icystorage wrote: is offlane troll viable in competitive? i remember DK pulling that one before
I think it was done if they knew it was going to be a 1v1 lane. He's barely been picked since the 6.79 nerfs though.
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Oh, I was just asking as it didn't seem to make sense to me :B
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On May 26 2014 16:49 icystorage wrote: is offlane troll viable in competitive? i remember DK pulling that one before
mouz looooooooooves Troll, to great effect!
Edit: but only mid! I'm completely and utterly blind.
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They do, but they play him mid.
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On May 29 2014 00:25 Shikada wrote: They do, but they play him mid.
scoops
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I mean DK put all sorts of weird heroes offlane when they know its a 1v1 (like Mushi offlane OD once lol).
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Anyone remembers mouz.FATA's build for troll in last game vs Team Liquid @ D2CL, couple of days ago? I remember listening the caters saying that he likes to do it all the time, he went for mekansm and then for vlad's but I can't remember the rest.
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Bottle, phase, wand, mek, vlad's and bkb is what im seeing most of the time on FATA's troll.
Edit: wtf FATA is 9-0 with troll?!
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Wakadodo is right, but its only proven in that type of draft. I like the sven and troll combo, its really nice
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How is diffusal blade on Troll?
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On June 12 2014 16:03 Aldrovandi wrote: How is diffusal blade on Troll?
The idea behind it? So we can comment on that.
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Troll's at his best when he can manfight someone, but has no good way to force it since his ranged slow is kinda wimpy, so the purge slow is nice. Also, the flat feedback damage/manaburn synergizes well with all of the attack speed he gets. I'm just not sure if it's cost-effective.
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if there's an omni/lock/pugna/ghostscepters sure. otherwise its not the most cost effective item on troll + you can't go hotd/satanic.
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I remember playing a game where troll went MoM (first after boots!), team laughed and we trashed him pretty thoroughly. Then somehow their team managed to make enough space for him/managed to farm enough to get bkb/mkb and we promptly got rekt by the raw dps/bashing.
MoM seems very overkill/snowbally, but if your team can set you up it outputs a LOT of dps.
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On June 13 2014 02:37 Vikeif wrote: I remember playing a game where troll went MoM (first after boots!), team laughed and we trashed him pretty thoroughly. Then somehow their team managed to make enough space for him/managed to farm enough to get bkb/mkb and we promptly got rekt by the raw dps/bashing.
MoM seems very overkill/snowbally, but if your team can set you up it outputs a LOT of dps.
Mom is pretty bad on him, he doesnt need the attack speed. A HotD is a lot better: more dmg, can build into satanic, and can grab a wolf and just have him follow you around.
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On June 13 2014 02:37 Vikeif wrote: I remember playing a game where troll went MoM (first after boots!), team laughed and we trashed him pretty thoroughly. Then somehow their team managed to make enough space for him/managed to farm enough to get bkb/mkb and we promptly got rekt by the raw dps/bashing.
MoM seems very overkill/snowbally, but if your team can set you up it outputs a LOT of dps.
Yes if your team can setup you up for this incredibly silly situation, it works. But in these situations, you're molding the game to fit this style, even though it's sub optimal. I hope people don't confuse this as good decision making.
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Holy crap Sange and Yasha on Troll has been a revelation for me(in games where I don't absolutely need a BKB after HotD). Sticking power, damage, durability, 514 movespeed when phased in Berserker's Rage, you can pressure towers wherever and then go farm every jungle camp when the enemy shows up in force.
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