EPTe is farming u get as (especially for rosh)
choice is urs
i'm an E maxer usually
[Hero] Troll Warlord - Page 15
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
e is farming u get as (especially for rosh) choice is urs i'm an E maxer usually | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
unless you will literally afk farm for the first 20 minutes, q is always better. And troll should be played aggressively in general, he isn't an afk farm hero | ||
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
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paper
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Blindly following common builds on dotabuff is following your average 2k player. | ||
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robaq
Poland186 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
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robaq
Poland186 Posts
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toemn
Germany915 Posts
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Daray
6006 Posts
On March 05 2015 19:26 toemn wrote: what to do against Sniper? the little shit is always in the back kiting my troll. Get a shadow blade or a blink later in the game and bash his face in. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On March 05 2015 18:35 robaq wrote: As legit as any other jungling carries, so expect to be fucked over in CM matches and pubs higher than ~4.5k mmr. Also if they don't have a jungler of their own, your team will probably be heavily underfarmed before you get relevant. Just the reality of playing 4v5. Don't know what is going on over 4.5K but jungle troll is really legit and you don't have to wait 25 minuted before entering the game. Troll rarely needs mana during jungling and can contribute with his ulti. In addition to that, value point on slow rekts enemy lanes against clueless players. The only real danger is a zoned out offlaner don't give a fuck about the game and going full parasite on you which you can alleviate the problem by bullying their easy lane and mid annoyance. After mask online, he is pretty much on par(slightly below probably but it is ok) with safe lane farm if uncontested. Especially if the enemy team and your mates trade kills and efficiency equally, it is possible to get out of the jungle more farmed. The only thing I focus on is keep the farm online, not commit every fight and keep the efficiency until 3rd item(boots + something + something bigger, phase+hotd+sb i.e) Playing 4v5 lanes in early game doesn't have to be in heavily underfarmed situation depends on the picks. There are good picks can handle 2 man easy lane and 1 man offlane with a proper not losing(mostly winning) mid lane which allows you go actually get better in mid to late game by preserving tricore setup eventually hit harder in pubs. I believe what you mention may possible if you cannot sustain easy lane against a retarded offlane (lich + something annoying) while the enemy safelane grab every last hit and mid got ganked 4 times in 10 minutes. Otherwise with a good jungler troll, you should be ahead in xp if not in farm. | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On March 05 2015 18:05 ahswtini wrote: I mean common builds on dotabuff still has slark max pounce first To be honest, in 3k dota where no one knows how to farm and peole just run around trying to kill shit, thats probably fine. | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
On March 12 2015 03:37 ahw wrote: The real problem with jungling troll is you are jingling probably the best laning carry in the game atm. He is so stupidly strong in lane. It's wasted potential. Sniper is the best laning carry in the game nowadays, i thought we all agreed on that. It's a wasted potential, obviously, but it's greed can totally overcompensate for it. | ||
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Jotoco
Brazil1342 Posts
On March 05 2015 18:11 BoZiffer wrote: Anybody see Bananaslamjamma's Jungle Troll Build? He posted a vid on YouTube. He got some favorable camps in the video but comes out level 6 by like 5 minutes which is pretty quick as far as I can tell. Curious for someone's more experienced opinion.... I've been forced into the jungle before by 5-carries line up (even buying courier... -_-) and it is usually ok. Not Enigma levels of farm and levels, but ok. Probably faster than level 1 naix which is so common...... | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
On March 12 2015 04:26 lolfail9001 wrote: Sniper is the best laning carry in the game nowadays, i thought we all agreed on that. It's a wasted potential, obviously, but it's greed can totally overcompensate for it. I think troll's better in safe lane/ dual lanes. Axes OP. And troll can threaten rosh and rotate to the jungle between waves, sniper can't do it as quickly. Sniper kind of wants mid solo. Problem is their offlaner will get a favourable 2v1. If troll is in the 2v1, it suddenly isn't favorable because troll is a beast | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
On March 12 2015 05:44 ahw wrote: I think troll's better in safe lane/ dual lanes. Axes OP. And troll can threaten rosh and rotate to the jungle between waves, sniper can't do it as quickly. Sniper kind of wants mid solo. Problem is their offlaner will get a favourable 2v1. If troll is in the 2v1, it suddenly isn't favorable because troll is a beast But then again, if their offlaner can't straight out dominate the 2v1, your greed pays off. And let's be honest, troll does not farm slowly even in teh jungle (i mean, for the sake of test i did hit 5:30 dominator out of cliff jungling). | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Like, it's not that Troll is bad at jungling, but if the lanes you could put Troll in already have other heroes laning there, chances are it's because they're all already farming heroes and your team needs a tempo hero in the jungle, not another farmer. There's definitely tempo safe lane heroes like Slardar or farming Centaur, so if you're playing with that it's probably fine, but you don't see that often in pubs. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
On March 12 2015 07:54 TheYango wrote: I don't know if I've ever played a pub game where there wasn't a lane for me to go to, and we needed another greedy farming hero. Like, it's not that Troll is bad at jungling, but if the lanes you could put Troll in already have other heroes laning there, chances are it's because they're all already farming heroes and your team needs a tempo hero in the jungle, not another farmer. There's definitely tempo safe lane heroes like Slardar or farming Centaur, so if you're playing with that it's probably fine, but you don't see that often in pubs. Well, my pubs on average have a Slardar or Centaur every second game. | ||
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