EPTU can also try like blink + skadi to get in and prevent them running.
Keep in mind u interact better than most shitty carries when their attackspeed is slowed cuz u have battle trance and fervor both.
I'll admit i'm a bad troll player.
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
U can also try like blink + skadi to get in and prevent them running. Keep in mind u interact better than most shitty carries when their attackspeed is slowed cuz u have battle trance and fervor both. I'll admit i'm a bad troll player. | ||
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paper
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Or you could play around it and let your teammates eat the ults and then jump in to focus on whoever you want. Evade when you're vulnerable, attack when you're strong. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
splitpush if u can too troll demolishes towers | ||
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Bwall
Sweden145 Posts
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paper
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Get bottle, skip aquila and maybe even drums to get blink faster. | ||
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Bwall
Sweden145 Posts
On January 21 2015 15:51 paper wrote: EVERY GAME! Get bottle, skip aquila and maybe even drums to get blink faster. Thanks! I'm buying bottle already, forgot to add that. So the build you recommend most of the time is bottle -> phase -> S&Y -> blink? Or yasha -> blink -> S&Y? Trying to learn about this hero a bit more, I feel like I haven't quite understood his strengths and weaknesses. Judging from this thread the consensus seems to be something along the lines of trying to set the tempo for the game by going mid, getting some fast levels and basic items -> non-stop fighting/pushing. Is that how you see it aswell? | ||
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govie
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Original BO : Phase - Bottle - Drums - SNY/HotD - BKB/Daed/Satanic/Blink/Bfly I think the better you get on troll, the less statitems you need to survive battles, the greedier the itempickups can be. But in you go papers original build, i garantee that you wont die alot, will win 90% of the lanes you face, have plenty of mana, have descent farm and have a winrate over 50% very fast no matter if you play him mid, in a dual- or a trilane. | ||
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Bwall
Sweden145 Posts
On January 21 2015 18:14 govie wrote: I was bad on troll and didnt understand the hero. So i picked up paper's build of which the discussion starts at post 50 page 3. Just read some posts after post 50, it discusses that bkb isnt a core item on troll and how you can crush every lane every game on troll (wkirling axes), why drums can be areally good item on troll etcetc. Original BO : Phase - Bottle - Drums - SNY/HotD - BKB/Daed/Satanic/Blink/Bfly I think the better you get on troll, the less statitems you need to survive battles, the greedier the itempickups can be. But in you go papers original build, i garantee that you wont die alot, will win 90% of the lanes you face, have plenty of mana, have descent farm and have a winrate over 50% very fast no matter if you play him mid, in a dual- or a trilane. Thanks for the response. I did check that post out and read a few pages in this thread and based my build and playstyle on what I read, but apparently I added the aquila from my own imagination. Maybe I should give it another read-through. What I haven't found though is an explanation of why blink is so highly regarded on troll, and how early to get it. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
And I kept getting helm of the dominator. Edit: I've been checking dotaflame's most recent troll stream archives, and most of them (bulldog,w3haa, lightofheaven, etc) are going phase helm of dominator. Only smash went drums. Now to be fair, none of them are troll specialists, but is dominator just better since 6.82 or are they itemizing poorly. Pro games, looks like they're building him more as a carry, so what's best? | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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robaq
Poland186 Posts
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
its really good edit: i meant blink not rosh | ||
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On January 23 2015 05:35 Slardar wrote: Why not just Shadowblade instead of Blink? I think both is viable but SB compliments the kind of racecar builds most Trolls lean toward anyway. yeah Shadowblade better in pubs, since people hate buying detection, and also have no coordination. | ||
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paper
13196 Posts
Blink is amazing for its general mobility, chase ability, and initiation. It caters to skirmishing and dancing around battles and committing when you're stronger than the opponent. It's not just a "win more" item because you can come back with it very easily. You can't do this with sblade. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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govie
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On January 23 2015 12:45 paper wrote: Shadowblade is awful: it has a relatively high mana cost and an easy counter. Blink is amazing for its general mobility, chase ability, and initiation. It caters to skirmishing and dancing around battles and committing when you're stronger than the opponent. It's not just a "win more" item because you can come back with it very easily. You can't do this with sblade. You're actually not gonna be using Shadowblade as an escape, but rather go up to people and bash them, like the same thing you'd do with Blink anyway. But yes I agree with the counters, but in pubs, it's easier to pull off. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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Lash-
Germany61 Posts
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