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Mikey
Profile Joined January 2011
United States277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 23:31:42
August 17 2011 23:30 GMT
#41
On August 18 2011 07:39 PerfectTear wrote:
How many heroes are there , and can you choose any hero you want, or are there 2 different pools of heroes for each side?


There are actually over 100 heroes in DotA1, a lot yet to be ported! IceFrog also takes suggestions from his fans on NEW heroes on updates weekly/monthly. He always adds new content.

/edit: If you want a question answered and the thread isn't giving you the help you need feel free to PM me! I have 5 or so years of experience (3 years experience at the highest level of American/European play). just trying to offer some help!! :D
Please watch my DotA2 Stream: www.twitch.tv/Mikey -- Member of Team Quantic's DotA2 division :) !
Crigget
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark38 Posts
August 17 2011 23:32 GMT
#42
On August 17 2011 21:12 NB wrote:
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On August 17 2011 21:07 Names wrote:
On August 17 2011 21:00 NB wrote:
why there is no lan for a f2p game?

Why are you assuming its f2p?

valve said the TF2 f2p was a testing model for dota2 release.


Will there be hats?
cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
August 17 2011 23:35 GMT
#43
There probably will. Just thinking about it is making me chuckle.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
SlothOnPCP
Profile Joined August 2010
193 Posts
August 17 2011 23:36 GMT
#44
shit if dota 2 have unique hats for every hero , ill have to sell my car.
"I think SlothOnPCP is a pretty cool guy. eh kills noobs and doesn’t afraid of anything…"
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
August 17 2011 23:39 GMT
#45
On August 18 2011 08:26 droxe wrote:
How do teams balance their teams composition?
Like in LoL where there's usually a tank, 3 DPS(AP & AD) and 1 Support.


It also depends on the level of play.

Like, in medium skill games, you want to have a blend of agility (1-2 max), intel and tank. As it's been said, depending on the strategy you can have "ganking" heroes, like Vengeful Spirit, who, even tho is Agi, and can semi-carry, is far more useful with roaming due to low-cd-low-mana-cost stuns and great ultimate.
However, if you get 3 dps heroes you will most likely fail versus good teamplay due to lack of stuns/aoe damage (which DPS heroes usually lack).

In high level games, like you see on the streams, they are trying to get good blends, but most importantly, pick heroes that best counters their enemy picks. You will hear the expression "won by picks", meaning that one team's heroes were great counters for the other team's. A crude example would be Anti-Mage, who counters weak intel heroes like furion, enigma, etc.

In low-level games, everyone picks what they wanna play (usually hard-carries), then rage at people for not picking tanks/inteli, but it doesn't really matter since there's very little team-play involved.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 23:44:51
August 17 2011 23:43 GMT
#46
On August 18 2011 05:25 dtz wrote:
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On August 18 2011 05:22 Darksteel wrote:
Okay, I've heard multiple mentions of DotaTV. So can you guys explain to me what it is, how can one get it and how can I watch this tournament using it.

If 2.8 million people are watching using DotaTV, why can't I find any info about it from dota2.com


DotaTV is just the normal stream that you see. If you are using it, you just see a generic silver/grey bar. If for some reason you can't access it, they redirect you to their own3d tv stream in which you can see that the bar is own3d tv bar. The own3d tv stream provides you with viewers number. The default one (DotaTV) doesnt.



No. You're talking about a stream of somebody that's watching dotaTV.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life_TV

It's HLTV but for Dota2.
Imaigne if in sc2, instead of watching streams, you could just join the actual games, on battlenet, and hear the casters voice. It uses much less bandwidth and you're in control of what you want to watch, it's interactive. Additionaly, it will provide built-in delay, stat charts and there seems to be a new a kind of bot built-in that can do the spectating for you.

Unfortunately, you can only use it if you have the dota2 client.
Quote?
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
August 18 2011 00:43 GMT
#47
If anyone has guides/articles that are particularly helpful for new players, including things that answer questions that have been asked here, please link them and I'll add them to the OP.
kaiz0ku
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Greece289 Posts
August 18 2011 00:48 GMT
#48
On August 18 2011 07:39 PerfectTear wrote:
How many heroes are there , and can you choose any hero you want, or are there 2 different pools of heroes for each side?


Well lets get you hyped a bit !
When everything is nice and finished... there will be more than 100.
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
August 18 2011 01:30 GMT
#49
On August 18 2011 09:48 kaiz0ku wrote:
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On August 18 2011 07:39 PerfectTear wrote:
How many heroes are there , and can you choose any hero you want, or are there 2 different pools of heroes for each side?


Well lets get you hyped a bit !
When everything is nice and finished... there will be more than 100.


And the pool of heroes you can choose from depends on the game mode, in some game mode you can pick from the entire pool, in some modes from a restricted pool and some modes it is completely random. In competitive the teams takes turns of banning and picking heroes from the entire hero pool.
"Banning" blocks both teams from picking that hero.
XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
August 18 2011 01:34 GMT
#50
On August 18 2011 09:43 Ruscour wrote:
If anyone has guides/articles that are particularly helpful for new players, including things that answer questions that have been asked here, please link them and I'll add them to the OP.



http://www.playdota.com/guides/welcome-to-dota-you-suck

http://www.playdota.com/guides/masterjas-total-newbie-guide
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
August 18 2011 04:29 GMT
#51
Realisitcally, what are the chances of anyone who played dota long ago and wants to come back to Dota 2 being competitive.

I honestly really want to start practicing for this game as I always enjoyed the dota model but just couldn't stand Bnet and no ladder so I went to SC2. I want to come back and try and get competitive to some level in Dota 2 but really don't want to waste my time preparing for it as I was attempting to get competitive in SC2 (realizing that RTS's aren't my bag I am still debating SC2 as a competitive gaming option)
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
August 18 2011 04:32 GMT
#52
I'm watching a vod of MYM vs M5 (I've never played/watched dota) and they are saying at one point that along the lines that "Night stalke is supposed to gank at night, this is what happens, what they have to do is get ganks during the day"

Is there a difference in-game when it's night and day?
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 04:38:27
August 18 2011 04:35 GMT
#53
On August 18 2011 13:29 esotericc wrote:
Realisitcally, what are the chances of anyone who played dota long ago and wants to come back to Dota 2 being competitive.

I honestly really want to start practicing for this game as I always enjoyed the dota model but just couldn't stand Bnet and no ladder so I went to SC2. I want to come back and try and get competitive to some level in Dota 2 but really don't want to waste my time preparing for it as I was attempting to get competitive in SC2 (realizing that RTS's aren't my bag I am still debating SC2 as a competitive gaming option)


Mindsets matter more than actual skill. There are plenty of "top" players who simply couldn't cut it once the maps switched versions that didn't play to their strengths or required a different approach.

Basically, how you approach the game matters far more than how well you play the game if you want to improve.

On August 18 2011 13:32 Scrandom wrote:
I'm watching a vod of MYM vs M5 (I've never played/watched dota) and they are saying at one point that along the lines that "Night stalke is supposed to gank at night, this is what happens, what they have to do is get ganks during the day"

Is there a difference in-game when it's night and day?


Yes, vision ranges change in-game between day and night.

The example that you are referring to is hero-specific, Nightstalker receives buffs to all of his skills at night and considerable ones at that. His spells are more effective and his passive grants him bonus movement speed and attack speed.

As a general guide to those watching the streams as a first timer, you can try looking at PlayDota.com's hero database to get an idea of what the hero is capable of doing.
Get it by your hands...
fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 04:35:58
August 18 2011 04:35 GMT
#54
On August 18 2011 13:32 Scrandom wrote:
I'm watching a vod of MYM vs M5 (I've never played/watched dota) and they are saying at one point that along the lines that "Night stalke is supposed to gank at night, this is what happens, what they have to do is get ganks during the day"

Is there a difference in-game when it's night and day?

NS's abilities & move/attack speed are more effective at night. See: http://www.playdota.com/heroes/night-stalker
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
August 18 2011 04:36 GMT
#55
A few different things happen at night. Vision range gets shorter, Creeps are asleep (need to hit them to aggro).
For nightstalker, he's a unique night enabled hero. He gets added speed and AP(really significant, like max runspeed when he maxes the skill). Also his main nuke also does a slow. His miss rate debuff also silences. basically he becomes really nasty. his ultimate makes it night for a short time.
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Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
August 18 2011 04:38 GMT
#56
On August 18 2011 13:36 Kiante wrote:
A few different things happen at night. Vision range gets shorter, Creeps are asleep (need to hit them to aggro).
For nightstalker, he's a unique night enabled hero. He gets added speed and AP(really significant, like max runspeed when he maxes the skill). Also his main nuke also does a slow. His miss rate debuff also silences. basically he becomes really nasty. his ultimate makes it night for a short time.


On August 18 2011 13:35 fishbowl wrote:
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On August 18 2011 13:32 Scrandom wrote:
I'm watching a vod of MYM vs M5 (I've never played/watched dota) and they are saying at one point that along the lines that "Night stalke is supposed to gank at night, this is what happens, what they have to do is get ganks during the day"

Is there a difference in-game when it's night and day?

NS's abilities & move/attack speed are more effective at night. See: http://www.playdota.com/heroes/night-stalker


Ok, thank you. I'm hoping to learn more about the game and buy it when it comes out. Have always wanted to play the game but it seems like you have to know what to do or you shouldn't even touch it.
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
August 18 2011 04:39 GMT
#57
On August 18 2011 13:35 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 13:29 esotericc wrote:
Realisitcally, what are the chances of anyone who played dota long ago and wants to come back to Dota 2 being competitive.

I honestly really want to start practicing for this game as I always enjoyed the dota model but just couldn't stand Bnet and no ladder so I went to SC2. I want to come back and try and get competitive to some level in Dota 2 but really don't want to waste my time preparing for it as I was attempting to get competitive in SC2 (realizing that RTS's aren't my bag I am still debating SC2 as a competitive gaming option)


Mindsets matter more than actual skill. There are plenty of "top" players who simply couldn't cut it once the maps switched versions that didn't play to their strengths or required a different approach.

Basically, how you approach the game matters far more than how well you play the game if you want to improve.


So its not like starcraft where you are miles and miles ahead just being around for 13+ years and newer SC2 players are likely to never get up to their skill?
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 18 2011 04:41 GMT
#58
On August 18 2011 13:39 esotericc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 13:35 Judicator wrote:
On August 18 2011 13:29 esotericc wrote:
Realisitcally, what are the chances of anyone who played dota long ago and wants to come back to Dota 2 being competitive.

I honestly really want to start practicing for this game as I always enjoyed the dota model but just couldn't stand Bnet and no ladder so I went to SC2. I want to come back and try and get competitive to some level in Dota 2 but really don't want to waste my time preparing for it as I was attempting to get competitive in SC2 (realizing that RTS's aren't my bag I am still debating SC2 as a competitive gaming option)


Mindsets matter more than actual skill. There are plenty of "top" players who simply couldn't cut it once the maps switched versions that didn't play to their strengths or required a different approach.

Basically, how you approach the game matters far more than how well you play the game if you want to improve.


So its not like starcraft where you are miles and miles ahead just being around for 13+ years and newer SC2 players are likely to never get up to their skill?

huh? that logic isnt right at all for both games, even if boxer was around for 13+ years people caught up to him in skill in both BW and SC2
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esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
August 18 2011 04:44 GMT
#59
On August 18 2011 13:41 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 13:39 esotericc wrote:
On August 18 2011 13:35 Judicator wrote:
On August 18 2011 13:29 esotericc wrote:
Realisitcally, what are the chances of anyone who played dota long ago and wants to come back to Dota 2 being competitive.

I honestly really want to start practicing for this game as I always enjoyed the dota model but just couldn't stand Bnet and no ladder so I went to SC2. I want to come back and try and get competitive to some level in Dota 2 but really don't want to waste my time preparing for it as I was attempting to get competitive in SC2 (realizing that RTS's aren't my bag I am still debating SC2 as a competitive gaming option)


Mindsets matter more than actual skill. There are plenty of "top" players who simply couldn't cut it once the maps switched versions that didn't play to their strengths or required a different approach.

Basically, how you approach the game matters far more than how well you play the game if you want to improve.


So its not like starcraft where you are miles and miles ahead just being around for 13+ years and newer SC2 players are likely to never get up to their skill?

huh? that logic isnt right at all for both games, even if boxer was around for 13+ years people caught up to him in skill in both BW and SC2


I suppose I worded that wrong. Not entirely sure what my point was, long story short it is going to be possible to be competitive when the game comes out and the community makes the shift? (not immediately obviously but with time)
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 04:47:04
August 18 2011 04:46 GMT
#60
On August 18 2011 13:44 esotericc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 13:41 rabidch wrote:
On August 18 2011 13:39 esotericc wrote:
On August 18 2011 13:35 Judicator wrote:
On August 18 2011 13:29 esotericc wrote:
Realisitcally, what are the chances of anyone who played dota long ago and wants to come back to Dota 2 being competitive.

I honestly really want to start practicing for this game as I always enjoyed the dota model but just couldn't stand Bnet and no ladder so I went to SC2. I want to come back and try and get competitive to some level in Dota 2 but really don't want to waste my time preparing for it as I was attempting to get competitive in SC2 (realizing that RTS's aren't my bag I am still debating SC2 as a competitive gaming option)


Mindsets matter more than actual skill. There are plenty of "top" players who simply couldn't cut it once the maps switched versions that didn't play to their strengths or required a different approach.

Basically, how you approach the game matters far more than how well you play the game if you want to improve.


So its not like starcraft where you are miles and miles ahead just being around for 13+ years and newer SC2 players are likely to never get up to their skill?

huh? that logic isnt right at all for both games, even if boxer was around for 13+ years people caught up to him in skill in both BW and SC2

I suppose I worded that wrong. Not entirely sure what my point was, long story short it is going to be possible to be competitive when the game comes out and the community makes the shift? (not immediately obviously but with time)

It'll probably take 6 months at least, but yes it's possible if you learn the right ways.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
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