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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 07 2012 20:55 GMT
#3621
By which logic Tiny can, then?

I mean if we compare them, Sven attacks faster and has higher damage, right?
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Deleted User 281514
Profile Joined August 2012
68 Posts
September 07 2012 21:14 GMT
#3622
Sven's damage is situational since it depends on his ultimate. His early game is weaker (high mana costs and low mana pool) - his ultimate only increases base damage.
He's also heavily farm (he needs too many items to actually carry) & placement dependant. He's been used now & then as a carry, but he's more often used as a secondary support.

An example would be: you pop God's strength & BKB - yet you die - you buyback & no longer have God's strength... you're not dealing a large amount of damage.
Tiny on the other hand deals constant damage. So does AM/Morphling/PA/Void/etc. It's more about consistency than anything else. If they buyback & come back to a fight, they can actually bring something to the table.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 07 2012 22:21 GMT
#3623
On September 08 2012 06:14 yotcarter wrote:
Sven's damage is situational since it depends on his ultimate. His early game is weaker (high mana costs and low mana pool) - his ultimate only increases base damage.
He's also heavily farm (he needs too many items to actually carry) & placement dependant. He's been used now & then as a carry, but he's more often used as a secondary support.

An example would be: you pop God's strength & BKB - yet you die - you buyback & no longer have God's strength... you're not dealing a large amount of damage.
Tiny on the other hand deals constant damage. So does AM/Morphling/PA/Void/etc. It's more about consistency than anything else. If they buyback & come back to a fight, they can actually bring something to the table.

That's not really a fantastic argument because Syllabear and Dragon Knight don't follow this. Syllabear's Bear/Dragon Knight's Ulti remain on CD when they die.
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
September 07 2012 23:56 GMT
#3624
Although sylla only gets half of the penalty from that - aegis keeps the bear alive. He can also have it off cd when he dies in a teamfight, unlike DK/sven (although the chances are quite low, since its easy to stay alive long enough to summon twice when you as tanky as him).
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Qwantz
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain44 Posts
September 08 2012 00:27 GMT
#3625
So I heard a while ago on Reddit about a project involving a website for picks and antipicks. Is there any info already about that?
So... what?
Koromon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 01:29:27
September 08 2012 01:18 GMT
#3626
On September 08 2012 09:27 Qwantz wrote:
So I heard a while ago on Reddit about a project involving a website for picks and antipicks. Is there any info already about that?


To me, I feel like there are simply too many possibilities in picks/bans. I mean, it would make sense that there should always be a "correct" pick/ban or at least a "not-bad/horrendous/safe" pick/ban but as LGD vs iG's game (don't remember which), all the info LGD had gotten from iG's picked didn't help them when iG 5th picked lich and completely screwed LGD's game plan over.

I don't know if linking to other forums is against TL rules but.. drafting really is a pain in the butt.

http://www.playdota.com/guides/drafting-in-cm-for-intermediate

That is a pretty good place to start. Some "basics" the writer goes over are "rock-paper-scissors" of push/gank/farm orientated teams. (although in the current meta farm doesn't really exist without the others).

But on top of preventing certain heroes that will complete game-orientated comps, it's hard to ignore things like Ferrari's Invoker. But then again, anything below the professional level might not have to worry about spot banning.


On September 08 2012 05:55 Shikyo wrote:
By which logic Tiny can, then?

I mean if we compare them, Sven attacks faster and has higher damage, right?


My 2 cents.

"By definition" a carry NEEDS $$$, be it farm, or killing people (probably farm). Like CK, Sven has some ability to kill (with assistance), but really has no reliable farming ability. Tiny, like Morphline can flash farm "easily" and can pick up kills just as easily as Sven can with support, if not more easily. But imho, Tiny can't REALLY carry without Invoker without getting ridiculously getting outcarried by almost anything else.
Selkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States530 Posts
September 08 2012 03:08 GMT
#3627
Erm. Are they STILL doing the invite thing? How do I get an invite? I've been waiting a few months, should I resubmit an application?

Etc.

Basically, I'd like to be able to play, and not having an easy time....
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 08 2012 03:24 GMT
#3628
On September 08 2012 12:08 Selkie wrote:
Erm. Are they STILL doing the invite thing? How do I get an invite? I've been waiting a few months, should I resubmit an application?

Etc.

Basically, I'd like to be able to play, and not having an easy time....


Your best bet is to buy an invite for 2 or 3 keys.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 08 2012 05:18 GMT
#3629
On September 08 2012 12:24 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:08 Selkie wrote:
Erm. Are they STILL doing the invite thing? How do I get an invite? I've been waiting a few months, should I resubmit an application?

Etc.

Basically, I'd like to be able to play, and not having an easy time....


Your best bet is to buy an invite for 2 or 3 keys.

This post explains how:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365276
:)
Mnemic
Profile Joined April 2010
Botswana80 Posts
September 08 2012 15:36 GMT
#3630
I'm a Dota2 noob so i like to spend some time reading various guides. Yesterday i was looking for some info on Outworld Destroyer and found this (Dota2 wiki):

...Because of his ability to constantly and limitlessly replenish his mana, he is arguably the only hero in the game who directly counters Anti-Mage.


Then i looked at AM and noticed that he has a passive called Spell Shield which increases Anti-Mage's resistance to magic damage by 50% on lvl 4. So, is OD truly a direct counter to AM and if so why he isn't picked more often vs AM?
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 08 2012 15:38 GMT
#3631
On September 09 2012 00:36 Mnemic wrote:
I'm a Dota2 noob so i like to spend some time reading various guides. Yesterday i was looking for some info on Outworld Destroyer and found this (Dota2 wiki):

Show nested quote +
...Because of his ability to constantly and limitlessly replenish his mana, he is arguably the only hero in the game who directly counters Anti-Mage.


Then i looked at AM and noticed that he has a passive called Spell Shield which increases Anti-Mage's resistance to magic damage by 50% on lvl 4. So, is OD truly a direct counter to AM and if so why he isn't picked more often vs AM?

thats a pretty terrible argument. OD has full mana all the time, so what? a built am will still wreck his face.
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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 16:34:13
September 08 2012 16:32 GMT
#3632
On September 09 2012 00:36 Mnemic wrote:
I'm a Dota2 noob so i like to spend some time reading various guides. Yesterday i was looking for some info on Outworld Destroyer and found this (Dota2 wiki):

Show nested quote +
...Because of his ability to constantly and limitlessly replenish his mana, he is arguably the only hero in the game who directly counters Anti-Mage.


Then i looked at AM and noticed that he has a passive called Spell Shield which increases Anti-Mage's resistance to magic damage by 50% on lvl 4. So, is OD truly a direct counter to AM and if so why he isn't picked more often vs AM?

OD doesn't exactly counter AM, he's just very good at fighting him, but for other reasons than the ones stated.

AM is depending on his Spell Shield to survive against nukers, but OD's damage coming from his orb is pure and he can easily hit for 200+ damage with that. As an added side effect, the orb tears through illusions, making Manta Style, an item AM always gets only half as good. The always-have-max-mana only helps against AM's ultimate, which while strong is not the reason he's picked.

OD is not picked because he's a carry without any survivability. He doesn't have any escape, low HP and is countered by BKB. And since AM fell out of favor (behind e.g. Morphling) it's not necessary to use him as a counterpick.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 08 2012 18:29 GMT
#3633
does using ghost scepter on someone affected by poison (e.g. poison nova) increase the poison damage?
:)
Mnemic
Profile Joined April 2010
Botswana80 Posts
September 08 2012 18:44 GMT
#3634
On September 09 2012 01:32 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 00:36 Mnemic wrote:
I'm a Dota2 noob so i like to spend some time reading various guides. Yesterday i was looking for some info on Outworld Destroyer and found this (Dota2 wiki):

...Because of his ability to constantly and limitlessly replenish his mana, he is arguably the only hero in the game who directly counters Anti-Mage.


Then i looked at AM and noticed that he has a passive called Spell Shield which increases Anti-Mage's resistance to magic damage by 50% on lvl 4. So, is OD truly a direct counter to AM and if so why he isn't picked more often vs AM?

OD doesn't exactly counter AM, he's just very good at fighting him, but for other reasons than the ones stated.

AM is depending on his Spell Shield to survive against nukers, but OD's damage coming from his orb is pure and he can easily hit for 200+ damage with that. As an added side effect, the orb tears through illusions, making Manta Style, an item AM always gets only half as good. The always-have-max-mana only helps against AM's ultimate, which while strong is not the reason he's picked.

OD is not picked because he's a carry without any survivability. He doesn't have any escape, low HP and is countered by BKB. And since AM fell out of favor (behind e.g. Morphling) it's not necessary to use him as a counterpick.


Thank you for the clarification.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
September 08 2012 18:46 GMT
#3635
Ethereal form cancels poison nova affliction.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
September 08 2012 18:59 GMT
#3636
On September 09 2012 03:46 igotmyown wrote:
Ethereal form cancels poison nova affliction.

They changed that in Dota 2
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=29814
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
seaofsaturn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States489 Posts
September 08 2012 19:34 GMT
#3637
How long does it take y'all to find a match usually?
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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
September 08 2012 19:41 GMT
#3638
On September 09 2012 04:34 seaofsaturn wrote:
How long does it take y'all to find a match usually?

About 2 minutes in EU, up to 5 on weak times. This is AP, everything else is 5+ for me.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 08 2012 21:26 GMT
#3639
Anywhere from 3 to 45 minutes depending on how many people decline or fail to load
Samurice
Profile Joined September 2012
United States12 Posts
September 09 2012 18:00 GMT
#3640
On September 09 2012 04:34 seaofsaturn wrote:
How long does it take y'all to find a match usually?


5-10 minutes, que'ing All Pick US East/West.
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