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don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
July 20 2012 15:53 GMT
#3061
PA is all about stacking damage so when that 15% crit does proc, you can see the red number and go "ahhhh....that felt GOOD!!!"
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 16:01:09
July 20 2012 15:58 GMT
#3062
On July 20 2012 23:52 Yacobs wrote:
Why doesn't anyone build attack speed on Phantom Assassin?

With a 15% proc chance, you only have a 48% chance for a single Phantom Strike to result in a proc. On top of that, there's no guarantee that a crit proc will result in a kill. Yeah, Phantom Strike has a quick 5 second cooldown but that means basically 3.5 seconds or so out of every 5 seconds you have pretty crappy attack speed.

Why not get a Hyperstone in the mid-game and go into an AC later on? Something like BKB -> Hyperstone -> HoD -> AC?

She has very good Agilty growth, so attack speed is generally not gotten early in favor of survivability and farming items (Battle Fury + BKB). AC is an option later on, but typically Agility carries will favor Butterfly over Assault Cuirass. The exceptions are usually not 1st position hard carries, but more often 2nd/3rd position tankier semicarries like Razor or Viper.

Remember that Agility items also grant 1% attack speed per point, so the 30% attack speed + 30 agility from Butterfly actually grants significantly more attack speed than Assault Cuirass does.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
July 20 2012 16:03 GMT
#3063
she already has dodge tho
besides everyone knows only item u want after bkb is rapiers
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 16:06:58
July 20 2012 16:06 GMT
#3064
On July 21 2012 01:03 Dead9 wrote:
she already has dodge tho
besides everyone knows only item u want after bkb is rapiers

How does the stacking work in DotA 2?

I know that they didn't stack in DotA 1, but someone told me otherwise for DotA 2. If they don't stack then yea, no point dumping so much money in BFly.

Manta should still be an option though.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
July 21 2012 00:22 GMT
#3065
Anyone know where I can get VODs for games that happened yesterday like DK vs mouz and iG vs mouz, which were listed on the Joindota matches but not on the VODs page? I would search more but I'm afraid of getting spoiled.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
July 21 2012 05:26 GMT
#3066
I just had the weirdest bugged out game. I was playing as undying, got FB. Then started having massive lag which led me to die shortly after. When I respawned my hero portrait was grayed out and the screen had the low HP warning borders. When I returned to lane, dota 2 crashed and I wasn't able to reconnect when I got back cuz the reconnect button was not available :S

Basically, I have never left/afk-ed before. How do I know if I'm in a low priority queue? is there some message?
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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
July 21 2012 10:23 GMT
#3067
Can someone tell me a good item build for Naga? I'm currently winging it with Arcane Boots-->Vit Booster-->Yasha-->Manta-->Heart-->Diffusal, which works out, but surely there are better ones. The high rated guides all talk about the old Naga with crit, so that isn't helping >_>
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
wcLLg
Profile Joined December 2011
United States281 Posts
July 21 2012 10:23 GMT
#3068
On July 21 2012 09:22 writer22816 wrote:
Anyone know where I can get VODs for games that happened yesterday like DK vs mouz and iG vs mouz, which were listed on the Joindota matches but not on the VODs page? I would search more but I'm afraid of getting spoiled.


http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/replays

there ya go
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wcLLg
Profile Joined December 2011
United States281 Posts
July 21 2012 10:26 GMT
#3069
On July 21 2012 14:26 frucisky wrote:
I just had the weirdest bugged out game. I was playing as undying, got FB. Then started having massive lag which led me to die shortly after. When I respawned my hero portrait was grayed out and the screen had the low HP warning borders. When I returned to lane, dota 2 crashed and I wasn't able to reconnect when I got back cuz the reconnect button was not available :S

Basically, I have never left/afk-ed before. How do I know if I'm in a low priority queue? is there some message?


When you search for a game it will say in red text: warning: you are in low priority...and also in game after the creeps spawn a message will display warning that you are in low priority and that you will not get any battle points etc...

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Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
July 21 2012 13:02 GMT
#3070
Has there been any VODs where Undying has been played? I haven´t been able to access a pc for 2 weeks..
AoD
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
July 21 2012 13:56 GMT
#3071
On July 21 2012 22:02 Altsa wrote:
Has there been any VODs where Undying has been played? I haven´t been able to access a pc for 2 weeks..

http://dota-academy.com/hero/87/

A few exist.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
July 21 2012 14:24 GMT
#3072
On July 21 2012 19:23 ChrisXIV wrote:
Can someone tell me a good item build for Naga? I'm currently winging it with Arcane Boots-->Vit Booster-->Yasha-->Manta-->Heart-->Diffusal, which works out, but surely there are better ones. The high rated guides all talk about the old Naga with crit, so that isn't helping >_>

The old standard before Crit became Riptide was Vanguard/Treads/Radiance with Diffusal/Manta/Heart/Butterfly following. Arcane Boots weren't really in the game and without Riptide, mana management was much easier. Even though Naga isn't as hard of a carry now, most later-game items remain the same.

Naga will generally be in trilanes, though for pubs dual lanes. Regardless, grab a Ring of Basilius early on for mana regeneration. Vanguard is also a deprecated item--poor man's shield + vit booster + tranquil (550 + 1100 + 1025 = 2675) is much more effective and cheaper than Vanguard + boots (2725). From there, move into Radiance. If you can't get Radiance in a timely manner, Diffusal or Manta. Follow up with the other big items--Butterfly and Heart come to mind the most. Lifesteal is obviously the most carry-oriented orb, so if you didn't pick up Diffusal HotD -> Satanic works. Other items to consider are Cuirass, BKB, and Necronomicon.

Don't grab arcane boots. Let your supports grab them. Tranquil makes you move so fast (320+80) and you can disassemble later for Treads or Travels.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
July 21 2012 14:40 GMT
#3073
On July 21 2012 23:24 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 19:23 ChrisXIV wrote:
Can someone tell me a good item build for Naga? I'm currently winging it with Arcane Boots-->Vit Booster-->Yasha-->Manta-->Heart-->Diffusal, which works out, but surely there are better ones. The high rated guides all talk about the old Naga with crit, so that isn't helping >_>

The old standard before Crit became Riptide was Vanguard/Treads/Radiance with Diffusal/Manta/Heart/Butterfly following. Arcane Boots weren't really in the game and without Riptide, mana management was much easier. Even though Naga isn't as hard of a carry now, most later-game items remain the same.

Naga will generally be in trilanes, though for pubs dual lanes. Regardless, grab a Ring of Basilius early on for mana regeneration. Vanguard is also a deprecated item--poor man's shield + vit booster + tranquil (550 + 1100 + 1025 = 2675) is much more effective and cheaper than Vanguard + boots (2725). From there, move into Radiance. If you can't get Radiance in a timely manner, Diffusal or Manta. Follow up with the other big items--Butterfly and Heart come to mind the most. Lifesteal is obviously the most carry-oriented orb, so if you didn't pick up Diffusal HotD -> Satanic works. Other items to consider are Cuirass, BKB, and Necronomicon.

Don't grab arcane boots. Let your supports grab them. Tranquil makes you move so fast (320+80) and you can disassemble later for Treads or Travels.


Radiance on Naga isn't very good compared to a lot of heroes imo, I'd recommend going straight for heart, or getting either diffusal and yasha first

given that u've gotten basi for laning and tranq boots, dissembling into vlads midgame is the obvious choice and it feels like mana burn is the better orb on naga
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
July 21 2012 15:03 GMT
#3074
On July 21 2012 23:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 23:24 flamewheel wrote:
On July 21 2012 19:23 ChrisXIV wrote:
Can someone tell me a good item build for Naga? I'm currently winging it with Arcane Boots-->Vit Booster-->Yasha-->Manta-->Heart-->Diffusal, which works out, but surely there are better ones. The high rated guides all talk about the old Naga with crit, so that isn't helping >_>

The old standard before Crit became Riptide was Vanguard/Treads/Radiance with Diffusal/Manta/Heart/Butterfly following. Arcane Boots weren't really in the game and without Riptide, mana management was much easier. Even though Naga isn't as hard of a carry now, most later-game items remain the same.

Naga will generally be in trilanes, though for pubs dual lanes. Regardless, grab a Ring of Basilius early on for mana regeneration. Vanguard is also a deprecated item--poor man's shield + vit booster + tranquil (550 + 1100 + 1025 = 2675) is much more effective and cheaper than Vanguard + boots (2725). From there, move into Radiance. If you can't get Radiance in a timely manner, Diffusal or Manta. Follow up with the other big items--Butterfly and Heart come to mind the most. Lifesteal is obviously the most carry-oriented orb, so if you didn't pick up Diffusal HotD -> Satanic works. Other items to consider are Cuirass, BKB, and Necronomicon.

Don't grab arcane boots. Let your supports grab them. Tranquil makes you move so fast (320+80) and you can disassemble later for Treads or Travels.


Radiance on Naga isn't very good compared to a lot of heroes imo, I'd recommend going straight for heart, or getting either diffusal and yasha first

given that u've gotten basi for laning and tranq boots, dissembling into vlads midgame is the obvious choice and it feels like mana burn is the better orb on naga


if you have radiance you can farm muiltiple lanes/creep camps at once with the burn+riptide however that is extremely situational.
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Stoli
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada173 Posts
July 22 2012 02:04 GMT
#3075
On July 21 2012 01:06 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 01:03 Dead9 wrote:
she already has dodge tho
besides everyone knows only item u want after bkb is rapiers

How does the stacking work in DotA 2?

I know that they didn't stack in DotA 1, but someone told me otherwise for DotA 2. If they don't stack then yea, no point dumping so much money in BFly.

Manta should still be an option though.



You were lied to. Evasion doesn't stack in any shape or form.


The only exception is the "evade" on faceless void's backtrack.. but that dodges spells, so it's obviously not a vanilla evade.
Twisting joints like a contortionist
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
July 22 2012 03:10 GMT
#3076
How much of an influence (if any) does your account level effect whom you play against (as in, does it influence or is it strictly the hidden mmr)?
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 22 2012 03:31 GMT
#3077
Has no influence to my knowledge.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
July 22 2012 03:40 GMT
#3078
On July 22 2012 12:31 Numy wrote:
Has no influence to my knowledge.


That is what i figured, it is just on my smurf account, even after losing so much and having a negative win ratio, I have a tendency to play against people that I shouldn't. It is just weird at times. Granted, it is not my main so it is fine. But just seem weird at times. Was hoping there would be no influence at all.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
July 22 2012 12:55 GMT
#3079
On July 21 2012 23:24 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 19:23 ChrisXIV wrote:
Can someone tell me a good item build for Naga? I'm currently winging it with Arcane Boots-->Vit Booster-->Yasha-->Manta-->Heart-->Diffusal, which works out, but surely there are better ones. The high rated guides all talk about the old Naga with crit, so that isn't helping >_>

The old standard before Crit became Riptide was Vanguard/Treads/Radiance with Diffusal/Manta/Heart/Butterfly following. Arcane Boots weren't really in the game and without Riptide, mana management was much easier. Even though Naga isn't as hard of a carry now, most later-game items remain the same.

Naga will generally be in trilanes, though for pubs dual lanes. Regardless, grab a Ring of Basilius early on for mana regeneration. Vanguard is also a deprecated item--poor man's shield + vit booster + tranquil (550 + 1100 + 1025 = 2675) is much more effective and cheaper than Vanguard + boots (2725). From there, move into Radiance. If you can't get Radiance in a timely manner, Diffusal or Manta. Follow up with the other big items--Butterfly and Heart come to mind the most. Lifesteal is obviously the most carry-oriented orb, so if you didn't pick up Diffusal HotD -> Satanic works. Other items to consider are Cuirass, BKB, and Necronomicon.

Don't grab arcane boots. Let your supports grab them. Tranquil makes you move so fast (320+80) and you can disassemble later for Treads or Travels.


I've seen Chinese pros grab arcane boots on naga in a tri-lane. It's just such a good item in that case.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
July 23 2012 01:42 GMT
#3080
On July 22 2012 21:55 Pseudoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 23:24 flamewheel wrote:
On July 21 2012 19:23 ChrisXIV wrote:
Can someone tell me a good item build for Naga? I'm currently winging it with Arcane Boots-->Vit Booster-->Yasha-->Manta-->Heart-->Diffusal, which works out, but surely there are better ones. The high rated guides all talk about the old Naga with crit, so that isn't helping >_>

The old standard before Crit became Riptide was Vanguard/Treads/Radiance with Diffusal/Manta/Heart/Butterfly following. Arcane Boots weren't really in the game and without Riptide, mana management was much easier. Even though Naga isn't as hard of a carry now, most later-game items remain the same.

Naga will generally be in trilanes, though for pubs dual lanes. Regardless, grab a Ring of Basilius early on for mana regeneration. Vanguard is also a deprecated item--poor man's shield + vit booster + tranquil (550 + 1100 + 1025 = 2675) is much more effective and cheaper than Vanguard + boots (2725). From there, move into Radiance. If you can't get Radiance in a timely manner, Diffusal or Manta. Follow up with the other big items--Butterfly and Heart come to mind the most. Lifesteal is obviously the most carry-oriented orb, so if you didn't pick up Diffusal HotD -> Satanic works. Other items to consider are Cuirass, BKB, and Necronomicon.

Don't grab arcane boots. Let your supports grab them. Tranquil makes you move so fast (320+80) and you can disassemble later for Treads or Travels.


I've seen Chinese pros grab arcane boots on naga in a tri-lane. It's just such a good item in that case.

Don't ever do what the chinese do in their games in your pub games. Hell, even euro-mericans pros can't pull off many of the strategies they do; they usually require way more teamwork than we're used to.
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