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On April 11 2018 01:04 amyamyamy wrote:
your winrate is only 80% ...do the math and realize how exceuciatingly many games it takes before your mmr matches where you should be at.
there's no zen wisdom, but maybe there's some greater wisdom because an 80% winrate is extremely rare. i'd like you to go and find a player who generally plays 8-2 or better every single session, because you almost never will outside of a smurf climbing and abusing players.
you belong where you are. that's just what you need to realize.
i'll give some examples where i'd prescribe someone start trying to expand their thinking:
- you have no idea what to pick and aren't inspired to learn and try multiple different heroes in different lanes.
you can be successful and feel rewarded playing any lane, any position and there are many fun and impactful heroes for each role.
- if you pick the same carries that you're always used to because they fit your playstyle or you feel like you're especially good on them.
means you likely have a lot to learn as you've gotten comfortable and you're picking heroes to hit creeps. anyone can hope they get a good lane, good supports and anyone can hit creeps. it's just shallow to think you're any different.
- if you can't bring yourself to blame yourself, or simply, all you have to say about your play is "i could have done better." by being sharply critical about others, you should be open to saying the same things about yourself, to hate yourself for your own play as you hate others for theirs.
- by showing no leadership or trying to get teammates to do the right thing with you. if you don't even try you're just hoping every single teammate is entirely on the same page or know exactly how to play their hero in the right situations. simply impossible even in high MMR games.
so what you need to do to stop the mentality that you're faultless or that your ally's mistakes outshine your own. you take part in their mistakes regardless of how much responsibility you feel you actually take.
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On April 13 2018 03:11 nanaoei wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 01:04 amyamyamy wrote:
your winrate is only 80% ...do the math and realize how exceuciatingly many games it takes before your mmr matches where you should be at. there's no zen wisdom, but maybe there's some greater wisdom because an 80% winrate is extremely rare. i'd like you to go and find a player who generally plays 8-2 or better every single session, because you almost never will outside of a smurf climbing and abusing players.you belong where you are. that's just what you need to realize. i'll give some examples where i'd prescribe someone start trying to expand their thinking: - you have no idea what to pick and aren't inspired to learn and try multiple different heroes in different lanes. you can be successful and feel rewarded playing any lane, any position and there are many fun and impactful heroes for each role. - if you pick the same carries that you're always used to because they fit your playstyle or you feel like you're especially good on them. means you likely have a lot to learn as you've gotten comfortable and you're picking heroes to hit creeps. anyone can hope they get a good lane, good supports and anyone can hit creeps. it's just shallow to think you're any different. - if you can't bring yourself to blame yourself, or simply, all you have to say about your play is "i could have done better." by being sharply critical about others, you should be open to saying the same things about yourself, to hate yourself for your own play as you hate others for theirs. - by showing no leadership or trying to get teammates to do the right thing with you. if you don't even try you're just hoping every single teammate is entirely on the same page or know exactly how to play their hero in the right situations. simply impossible even in high MMR games. so what you need to do to stop the mentality that you're faultless or that your ally's mistakes outshine your own. you take part in their mistakes regardless of how much responsibility you feel you actually take.
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/66546996
One guy i constantly get matched against with my legend archon friends, he stacks with friends and plays unranked with pretty decent winrate
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On April 13 2018 03:11 nanaoei wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 01:04 amyamyamy wrote:
your winrate is only 80% ...do the math and realize how exceuciatingly many games it takes before your mmr matches where you should be at. there's no zen wisdom, but maybe there's some greater wisdom because an 80% winrate is extremely rare. i'd like you to go and find a player who generally plays 8-2 or better every single session, because you almost never will outside of a smurf climbing and abusing players. you belong where you are. that's just what you need to realize. i'll give some examples where i'd prescribe someone start trying to expand their thinking: - you have no idea what to pick and aren't inspired to learn and try multiple different heroes in different lanes. you can be successful and feel rewarded playing any lane, any position and there are many fun and impactful heroes for each role. - if you pick the same carries that you're always used to because they fit your playstyle or you feel like you're especially good on them. means you likely have a lot to learn as you've gotten comfortable and you're picking heroes to hit creeps. anyone can hope they get a good lane, good supports and anyone can hit creeps. it's just shallow to think you're any different. - if you can't bring yourself to blame yourself, or simply, all you have to say about your play is "i could have done better." by being sharply critical about others, you should be open to saying the same things about yourself, to hate yourself for your own play as you hate others for theirs. - by showing no leadership or trying to get teammates to do the right thing with you. if you don't even try you're just hoping every single teammate is entirely on the same page or know exactly how to play their hero in the right situations. simply impossible even in high MMR games. so what you need to do to stop the mentality that you're faultless or that your ally's mistakes outshine your own. you take part in their mistakes regardless of how much responsibility you feel you actually take.
I know I wrote I wouldn't post anymore here but I can't help helping you realize how wrong you are. It's not that I necessarily disagree with what you're saying if your assumptions were true; it's that you're making baseless assumptions that as it happens are not at all accurate.
A little background to help you steer clear of future inaccuracies: I used to play DotA a fucking lot when I was still studying, then I graduated, found a job and met a girlfriend so I decided I didnt have time to play anymore - some people may enjoy playing a little every now and then but I dont find that enjoyable. Anyway, I didnt play a single game for two years (watched streams though) and then my gf goes overseas to study so I find myself in a position with plenty of time so I start playing again.
Now, I am fully to blame for what happens next and it's something I wish I could have done differently. Not having logged onto steam for two years (not to mention not having used the email attached to my steam account in forever), when I wanted to return to DotA, I couldn't remember my login details for the life of me nor my email. Tried to contact steam support etc but nothing they could do thanks to my own incompetence.
So I made a new account, played 100 unranked games as the new requirement for playing ranked is. My first calibration game I played with rank 300-1000 players, played 4 position (my comfort is 1 and 3) and I would objectively say I at least carried my own weight. That game almost felt like a real DotA game it was a joy to play. Then after the 10 calibration games, I calibrate at 3500 which is the max (used to be 5000 but boosters made sure to ruin that).
Now, I've played 66 ranked games since calibration with a winrate of 69.7% (probably around 80-85% if you adjust for the times my mid went 2-15 and their mid went 20-0). Just as I imagine most people at this low mmr dont enjoy having me in my games, there's nothing i would love more than not having to play with them, either, but aside from buying an account - which I dont want to support - there's nothing to be done about this issue so I just play and try to climb so I can get some real games of DotA.
I know I've been sounding very frustrated when I've been posting here, but I keep that to myself (and here and whining to friends on skype) - I have not a single time flamed or said anything to anyone ingame apart from hi wards pls good job etc
Before DotA I used to play StarCraft 1n1 so transitioning into playing a team game is really tough mentally - I've been struggling to come to terms with depending on other people - perfectly easy to convince yourself logically about that but emotionally it's a very different story. And this issue is what I've been asked for advise about.
As for all your assumption that I am not critical about my own play - that's actually hilarious. I am so much more critical of my own play than other people. If I miss a cs I shouldnt have missed or made a clear mistake, it will haunt me literally for days. If Im in doubt about something, I watch replay etc etc I always try to improve - why else would you play.
As for leadership in-game, I dont enjoy babysitting and micromanaging people. Sometimes I'll make a call/suggestion, but people at this low mmr are this low for a reason - usually because they're not willing to learn or because they're just not very bright.
so TL;DR logically I know it makes no sense to get upset over things I have no control over (my teammates) - my question all along has been if you guys have advise to help oneself realize this on an emotional level and not just a logical one.
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I question if this dicussion has its place in a simple question simple answer topic, however I'd like to point out that we do, in fact, have control over our teammates.
It's obviously not the same level of control that the one you have over yourself (which is flawed, too), but it's not nothing. Try to flame your mid after he gets ganked 2 or 3 times, and see how it works for your mmr.
There once was a weird discussion on TL or here, the question was : which game has the higher skillcap, dota or SC2 ? Initially, the question felt almost insulting to me. There is so much one needs to do in SC/SC2, compared to mostly just controlling one fucking unit in dota. I would consider SC as the real thing, dota being just a fun mod where you dick around with one hero.
But then people kept at it and started to point out that in dota, there is communication skill, social skill, something more than just mechanical skills. Which I agree with. And that this thing, capskill wise, is basically unlimited. There is no cap on how good someone can get, when it comes to communicating. Which... annoyed me a lot, but... couldn't really disagree with.
Anyway, the point is : communication IS a thing in dota, and saying you have no control over your teammates is simply wrong. Refusing to flame, rewriting your sentences, muting people, is fully acknowledging that.
There is a social dimension in dota and you need to deal with it, one way or another (be it in a positive, neutral or negative way).
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Lvl6 Hero Chat Wheel for Sandking is "Stings, don't it".
Shouldn't it be "Stings, doesn't it"?
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On April 14 2018 17:02 Pik wrote:
Lvl6 Hero Chat Wheel for Sandking is "Stings, don't it".
Shouldn't it be "Stings, doesn't it"?
If you want to be that anal about grammar, yes 
But it's colloquial and there's a lot of that in dota.
I don't mind personally.
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As a non-native speaker stuff like that makes me question everything ^^ thx
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What would be a good way to nerf Willow?
cast time for Shadow Realm?
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I could see just getting rid of the ridiculous attack range buff on shadow realm
Forces willow to commit her positioning if she wants to use it offensively, but without totally removing the hero's slippery nature or high damage output.
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does anyone happen to know if there's a popular channel where people meet for party queuing?
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On April 24 2018 23:07 Sn0_Man wrote:
I could see just getting rid of the ridiculous attack range buff on shadow realm
Forces willow to commit her positioning if she wants to use it offensively, but without totally removing the hero's slippery nature or high damage output.
Someone (fluff, bsj?) said during the Supermajor qualifiers that a start would be to make her first ultimate react to blademail.
Basically, in the current state of affair, she does not take blademail dmg return when she uses bedlam (the whisp is a separate entity, think shadow shaman wards). Change that.
Just relaying, I don't have much grief with the hero myself (don't see her often).
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On April 25 2018 09:07 Murlox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2018 23:07 Sn0_Man wrote:
I could see just getting rid of the ridiculous attack range buff on shadow realm
Forces willow to commit her positioning if she wants to use it offensively, but without totally removing the hero's slippery nature or high damage output. Someone (fluff, bsj?) said during the Supermajor qualifiers that a start would be to make her first ultimate react to blademail. Basically, in the current state of affair, she does not take blademail dmg return when she uses bedlam (the whisp is a separate entity, think shadow shaman wards). Change that. Just relaying, I don't have much grief with the hero myself (don't see her often).
lucky you - DW is by far the most picked 3 and 5 position in my games these days ;S
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I find her shadow realm being her escape since she is so squishy is fair. her 4sec stun is easily dismissed with manta or euls. they increased the CD on bedlam. A simple bkb nullifies her. I think their are plenty of ways around her. She is just like any annoying early game nuker hero. I play her pos 2-3 mid and generally do well but my god if they have bkb...im in for a rough time. I think she is fine where she is at honestly but will agree the range on shadow realm can be annoying.
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at what point does pubs become decent? sitting at 5.1k and just played a game with an afk-farming 3 position PL rushing radiance BoT - worst part is we won because the other team was awful and the even worse part is the PL might be stupid enough to not realize how awful he is.
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looks like I jinxed it - got an even worse game after that - acc buyer ruining the game earning 9 reports
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Is there a way to figure out which Battle Cup tier you belong to?
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ever since the release of Compendium public match making games around 5k mmr have decreased significantly in quality - are the ranked role games any better?
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