• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:34
CEST 14:34
KST 21:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)14Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) StarCraft 2 at SC4ALL II Invite #4/8 - Percival Protoss AoE skill expression 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) StarCraft 2 at SC4ALL II Invite #3/8 - Clem
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
The Korean Terminology Thread ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Recent recommended BW games Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament - Season 3 SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo 2 thread General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Clem Fan Club INnoVation Fan Club The Scarlett Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
NBA General Discussion Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6580 users

Simple Questions, Simple Answers - Page 1223

Forum Index > Dota 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1221 1222 1223 1224 1225 1254 Next
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
January 11 2017 11:07 GMT
#24441
This really depends on the game, hero, role, and how you're playing (manfighting vs splitpushing).

If you're the most important carry but you're getting disabled every fight by bkb piercing abilities, then a bkb wont help you. However if youre a position 3 who gets mass disabled every fight by bkb blockable abilities, then you might not even want to get a bkb anyways because youre tanking those stuns for your other more important cores.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-11 12:12:57
January 11 2017 11:13 GMT
#24442
On January 11 2017 20:07 solidbebe wrote:
This really depends on the game, hero, role, and how you're playing (manfighting vs splitpushing).

If you're the most important carry but you're getting disabled every fight by bkb piercing abilities, then a bkb wont help you. However if youre a position 3 who gets mass disabled every fight by bkb blockable abilities, then you might not even want to get a bkb anyways because youre tanking those stuns for your other more important cores.

To shorten up: You don't need a bkb if you're good. Buying a bkb makes you look like a noob that can't position better. /s just kidding btw
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
January 11 2017 12:10 GMT
#24443
Not sure what your point is but yes a BKB is incredibly situational and depends on so many factors. If you're a TA you dont want to buy a BKB since you want your deso/daedalus to blow up supports. But the enemy team is playing well enough to engage fights on you/ keep you under control every fight and you lose fights because of it, then a BKB is a good pickup.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7751 Posts
January 11 2017 12:19 GMT
#24444
Thanks for the tips. I need to play more to get a better feel when it's good it seems.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 11 2017 12:55 GMT
#24445
You can always all chat "stop focusing me, you retarded fucks" so everyone will focus you. Once they start doing it you will be 100% needing a bkb
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
January 11 2017 21:01 GMT
#24446
On January 11 2017 21:55 Pontual wrote:
You can always all chat "stop focusing me, you retarded fucks" so everyone will focus you. Once they start doing it you will be 100% needing a bkb



Why did I read this in Bulldogs voice?
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-11 21:40:25
January 11 2017 21:37 GMT
#24447
If there is any doubt, you should really just get the bkb.

Refusing to buy one because there is something that pierces is like the definitive pub error.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3272 Posts
January 12 2017 00:30 GMT
#24448
Yeah I agree. BKB allows you to often start skirmishes that turn into fights with an early pickoff when their bkb pierce just isn't there and if you are position 1 you'll likely eat the roar every fight anyways, so why not take way less damage while being disabled.

I've way more often regretted that I didnt get bkb than the other way round.
low gravity, yes-yes!
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7751 Posts
January 12 2017 05:50 GMT
#24449
Thanks guys

Another question, how do you deal with multiple blademails on the enemy team?
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 12 2017 08:37 GMT
#24450
On January 12 2017 14:50 PoulsenB wrote:
Thanks guys

Another question, how do you deal with multiple blademails on the enemy team?

silver edge
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 12 2017 09:23 GMT
#24451
On January 12 2017 14:50 PoulsenB wrote:
Thanks guys

Another question, how do you deal with multiple blademails on the enemy team?

If you're not able to pick off them separately, then you can focus on towers, perhaps you'll need to fight without commiting everything and when they activate their blade mails you take a few steps back.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7751 Posts
January 12 2017 11:26 GMT
#24452
Silver edge lowers blademail damage, right? Never thought about it actually, thanks
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 12 2017 11:32 GMT
#24453
yup, 50% reduction in dmg reflected, and it lasts longer than blademail. worth considering on any hero that can buy silver edge
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7751 Posts
January 12 2017 11:36 GMT
#24454
It would be super good against heroes like centaur or axe, since it would disable their passive skills as well, I have to try this. Does it reduce damage if they activate blademail after the break effect is applied? Or do you need to wait for them to use it first and then silver edge them?
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 12 2017 13:41 GMT
#24455
On January 12 2017 20:36 PoulsenB wrote:
It would be super good against heroes like centaur or axe, since it would disable their passive skills as well, I have to try this. Does it reduce damage if they activate blademail after the break effect is applied? Or do you need to wait for them to use it first and then silver edge them?

silver edge reduces damage output from the affected hero during the duration of the 5 second debuff, it doesnt matter when the blademail is activated. the only thing to be aware of is silver edge "break" is not dispellable, but is blocked by spell immunity. this part will confuse a lot of ppl:

when a hero gains spell immunity (be it from bkb, repel, bladefury etc...) it also removes debuffs. because silver edge debuff cannot be removed, you will still be "broken" from silver edge even if u go spell immune. but, being spell immune prevents the silver edge debuff from being applied. in short, if you bkb before you get hit by silver edge, you won't be affected. if you are hit before u bkb, then activating bkb won't help.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 13 2017 19:09 GMT
#24456
I like how the link in the OP about similar heroes in hon leads to this:
How to Buy Free Gems Clash Royale not complaining tho, the last one before me to click that link might've been 3 years lol
sasaqq
Profile Joined January 2017
3 Posts
January 14 2017 12:35 GMT
#24457
What's the easiest way to cast buffs on teammates in hairball teamfights where the guy you want to buff is surrounded by enemies? It's something I have a lot of trouble with as abaddon.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3272 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 14:26:24
January 14 2017 14:23 GMT
#24458
I have huge problems with that too. A theoretic possiblility if you know who's getting gone on is just click on the icon in the top bar.
But that's usually not where you want to have your cursor, so I assume the actual answer is just to try to improve your precision.
low gravity, yes-yes!
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 14 2017 14:58 GMT
#24459
Do two Helm of the Dominator aura's stack? Did a push strat earlier today, want to make sure I don't buy duplicate items.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7751 Posts
January 14 2017 15:20 GMT
#24460
I dont think any two auras of the same type stack.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Prev 1 1221 1222 1223 1224 1225 1254 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
09:00
Season 6 - Playoffs Day 5
Serral vs RogueLIVE!
Tasteless1556
Ryung 995
IntoTheiNu 767
RotterdaM697
ComeBackTV 671
IndyStarCraft 197
Rex165
CranKy Ducklings70
CranKy Ducklings SOOP6
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 1556
Ryung 995
RotterdaM 697
IndyStarCraft 197
Rex 165
BRAT_OK 51
EmSc Tv 19
MindelVK 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 37501
Bisu 2615
firebathero 742
BeSt 563
actioN 530
Pusan 364
EffOrt 244
Larva 192
Stork 191
Last 186
[ Show more ]
Leta 138
Hyun 134
Rush 104
ZerO 95
Mind 67
[sc1f]eonzerg 66
JYJ 56
Barracks 30
HiyA 28
Sexy 26
sorry 25
sSak 23
Nal_rA 18
scan(afreeca) 14
Counter-Strike
fl0m5076
kRYSTAL_19
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King84
Other Games
singsing1704
B2W.Neo872
Happy244
Livibee92
QueenE26
ZerO(Twitch)4
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV130
StarCraft: Brood War
CasterMuse 25
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 19
EmSc2Tv 19
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 13
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH305
• 3DClanTV 116
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV194
League of Legends
• Jankos1593
Upcoming Events
Ladder Legends
5h 26m
Ladder Legends
7h 26m
RSL Revival
20h 26m
OSC
1d
OSC
1d 11h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 22h
The Patches Monday
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.