Still depends on the hero and the game. I think midas is now desirable again, but I don't get the feeling so far that it's good enough to justify delaying your safe-your-core(/yourself)-item.

I think it's good now in the situations it always was good in. If your enemies lineup scales better and will camp highground, sure, Midas may give you the teamfight-winning scythe or lvl 25 or whatever. If you have one of these op aghs or refresher heroes like treant, aa, ww, (nyx), phoenix, disruptor, rubick, and the game isn't likely going to hell in the next 10 minutes, sure.

In most situation I'd rather spent my first 20 minutes of gold on a forcestaff though than on an item that needs another 18 minutes to pay for itself. Creeps just give a fairly marginal amount of exp lategame compared to kills/assists and saving my cores from dying feels like it pays the gold off faster.

SKN1995

Japan204 Posts

December 26 2016 22:12 GMT

#24364

when will 7.00 be revealed to have been an early april fool joke so we can go back to playing 6.89?

Durdel

5 Posts

December 27 2016 09:37 GMT

#24365

HotD still good on carry? A lot of pro players buy it right now.

Archeon

3272 Posts

December 27 2016 15:14 GMT

#24366

Think of it as drums with dominate now and more as. It's good on the same heroes drums was build on for the same reason. If you need early fighting stats the item is nice. If you are AM you likely don't care.

Atreides

United States2393 Posts

December 28 2016 05:24 GMT

#24367

How do people q multiple things into their quick buy? I've tried to figure this out for months, but I swear they do in streams.

Dr.Sneyder

Austria27 Posts

December 28 2016 05:31 GMT

#24368

On December 28 2016 14:24 Atreides wrote:
How do people q multiple things into their quick buy? I've tried to figure this out for months, but I swear they do in streams.

You can put multiple things in your quickbuy eith CTRL + SHIFT + Left Click

Have fun shopping

Atreides

United States2393 Posts

December 28 2016 05:43 GMT

#24369

ty <3

Shock710

Australia6097 Posts

December 28 2016 06:37 GMT

#24370

Meepo clones get talents? Also the clones still dont benefit from AS?

ihatevideogames

570 Posts

December 28 2016 16:36 GMT

#24371

How many games does it usually take for the hidden behaviour score to normalise?
(inb4 it doesn't exist, you could even check in the console a couple months ago)

I've stopped being toxic and I'm trying to be positive or not talk at all, but my last 20 or so games have been nightmare fuel, I'm not sure if I can keep it up if I keep getting games like these.

Archeon

3272 Posts

December 28 2016 18:17 GMT

#24372

On December 28 2016 15:37 Shock710 wrote:
Meepo clones get talents? Also the clones still dont benefit from AS?

Meepo clones get talents but dont benefit from as that isn't aura or agility based. Moonshard sucks on him.

solidbebe

Netherlands4921 Posts

December 28 2016 22:11 GMT

#24373

On December 29 2016 01:36 ihatevideogames wrote:
How many games does it usually take for the hidden behaviour score to normalise?
(inb4 it doesn't exist, you could even check in the console a couple months ago)

I've stopped being toxic and I'm trying to be positive or not talk at all, but my last 20 or so games have been nightmare fuel, I'm not sure if I can keep it up if I keep getting games like these.

Dude, from your past couple posts it really seems like you need to take a few weeks break from the game.

Nevuk

United States16280 Posts

December 28 2016 23:02 GMT

#24374

The behavior score can still be checked from my understanding.

Archeon

3272 Posts

December 29 2016 10:06 GMT

#24375

Euls purges Flameguard afaik. Does it purge anything else (is it a soft-dispell and liquipedia just doesn't tell?) or is that just a bugged interaction that IF decided to keep in the game?

I think if you are in nightmare land, some guys will just report you either way cause they need someone to blame. But over time I'm sure you'll get out of it.

Just try to self-reflect when you get aggressive and take a break. Get some chilly to play pve game, a MMO or something where things don't fight back and switch to it whenever you feel like shit. If you can actually apply some skill than all the better (I recommend BnS f.e.).

Or do some sport, exhaust yourself, get a punching bag or something. Punching bags really help.

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34507 Posts

December 29 2016 11:52 GMT

#24376

Euls purges a lot of things. I don't know what it's classified as with the new fancy terminology but you can use it to purge runes etc.

ihatevideogames

570 Posts

December 29 2016 12:53 GMT

#24377

On December 29 2016 07:11 solidbebe wrote:

Show nested quote +

Dude, from your past couple posts it really seems like you need to take a few weeks break from the game.

Why?
I realise I was getting bad games because I was being a toxic prick. But I've made a genuine effort to be as positive as possible for the last 30 or so games, but my games are still nightmare fuel. You can't even imagine how it is to be on aloss streak and still getting flamer teammates that last pick MK when we have no support and then proceed to feed on purpose. Or get boosters that blatantly advertise their websites (fuck you gameleap) on the opposing team when you're on a loss streak, while noone on your team even speaks english. But I didn't flame or blame, I just played. Just wondering when it ends, IF it ends at all, maybe I should just ditch this account.

Murlox

France1699 Posts

December 29 2016 16:08 GMT

#24378

I guess it stops when you want it to stop.

1°) Best advice by far is to actually take a break (do it), go see your family, do some sport, chill with friends, whatever - and come back with a fresh mind. The first couple of games are a bliss, it's like the first cigarette of the day. It simply is good.

2°) I try not to play more than 5-6 games in a row. I know that the longer I play, the less tolerant I get, the more irritated over small mistakes, the more expecting to have total clueless noobs on my team I get, etc. While myself getting less and less... efficient? I don't know, I begin to suck so I need people to be better to compensate, doesn't happen, I flame/give up, it's ridiculous. Losing streaks, my morale drops, the circle aggravates.

So now if I get 2 consecutive losses, I take a break.

3°) I instantly mute anyone saying "fucking support" or "retard" or "gg" or "russian" during the first minutes or the draft. Not interested in what small minds think, I know they'll get me annoyed anyway. They're probably tilted as fuck too, so I don't say anything, I just mute.

4°) And yeah, I try to use "Well Played!" as much as I can when my team score kills. I ward for myself and for the team (no matter my position) - I don't always do that because you know, fuck you, but I often do. I buy dust. I buff allies, give them urn charges. Small things, to maintain hope, make people feel good, and in return feel good yourself.

5°) And sometimes I just mute all and feed 6 bottles and a gem mid, I mean... I'm human, too.

edit : I'm sorry, I know this thread is supposed to be simple, looks like I can't do simple

tehh4ck3r

Magrathea7086 Posts

December 29 2016 18:28 GMT

#24379

Euls is a weak (soft) dispel

Archeon

3272 Posts

December 29 2016 21:16 GMT

#24380

Thanks for the euls answers @hacker and firebolt.

@ihatevideogames: I can't really give you an answer to how long it takes, but I can tell you that there exists a dota world where flamers are fairly rare, cause they are pretty rare in my world. With pretty rare I mean 1 in of 4 losses. Most people in my games are friendly and funny. I queue a lot with friends though, so Idk how much their scoring actually does.

Whether it's faster to get from flamers hell to normal ppl or from 0 to the mmr you are at is something I can't answer. Things like how many friendly people you have in the friendslist that you'd need to transfer also play a role.

Murlox makes a lot of good points.